Is Mexico being led by a fool?

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Re: Public opinion is fallable.

Post by neverfail » Mon May 04, 2020 1:44 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 1:49 am
neverfail wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 5:42 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 3:08 pm

In other words, for your opinion about Mexico, the views of a mercenary are worth more than the opinion of the Mexican people... Not exactly what democracy is supposed to be all about...
Just because Manuel Suárez-Mier is currently employed as a professor at a prestigous American university does not necessarily make him a mercenary. I don't know the person and had never even heard about him before I read the first of his recent two reports on the state of his home country in the Asia Times. It seems to me that you are casting unkind aspersions on the reputation of someone you probably do not know in person either because he is trying to impart information that you do not want to know about.
Information?...To me it sounded like politically motivated propaganda...
You would se it that way Sertorio! I have a friend originally from a Latin American republic who you somewhat remind me of. I once tried to talk straight economics (such as I learned in high school) to him and he accused me of speaking "capitalist idealogy". :lol:

The point was that economics was not part of their high school cirriculum back in the country he came from. No wonder there are so many socialists in Latin America as in Latin Europe. Ignorence breeds rumour and hearsay. :D

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Re: Is Mexico being led by a fool?

Post by Sertorio » Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:33 am

Leaked documents reveal right-wing oligarch plot to overthrow Mexico’s AMLO
Mexico’s oligarchs and establishment political parties have united in a secret alliance to try to remove left-wing President López Obrador from power, with help from the media, Washington, and Wall Street. Leaked documents lay out their devious strategy.
By Ben Norton

Some of the most powerful forces in Mexico are uniting in a campaign to try to topple the country’s first left-wing president in decades, Andrés Manuel López Obrador. And they apparently have support in Washington and on Wall Street.

Known popularly as AMLO, the Mexican leader is a progressive nationalist who campaigned on the promise to “end the dark night of neoliberalism.” He has since implemented a revolutionary vision he calls the “Fourth Transformation,” vowing to fight poverty, corruption, and drug violence — and has increasingly butted heads with his nation’s wealthy elites.

López Obrador has also posed a challenge to the US foreign-policy consensus. His government provided refuge to Bolivia’s elected socialist President Evo Morales and to members of Evo’s political party who were exiled after a Trump administration-backed military coup.

AMLO also held a historic meeting with Cuba’s President Miguel Díaz-Canel, and even stated Mexico would be willing to break the unilateral US blockade of Venezuela and sell the besieged Chavista government gasoline.

These policies have earned AMLO the wrath of oligarchs both inside and outside of his country. On June 18, the US government ratcheted up its pressure on Mexico, targeting companies and individuals with sanctions for allegedly providing water to Venezuela, as part of an oil-for-food humanitarian agreement.

The value of the Mexican peso immediately dropped by 2 percent following the Trump administration’s imposition of sanctions.

These opening salvos of Washington’s economic war on its southern neighbor came just days after López Obrador delivered a bombshell press conference, in which he revealed that the political parties that had dominated Mexican politics for the decades before him have secretly unified in a plot to try to oust the president, years before his democratic mandate ends in 2024.

The forces trying to remove AMLO from power include major media networks, massive corporations, sitting governors and mayors, former presidents, and influential business leaders. According to a leaked document, they call themselves the Broad Opposition Block (Bloque Opositor Amplio, or BOA).

(...)

https://thegrayzone.com/2020/06/18/mexi ... -amlo-boa/
Well, Neverfail, this may explain to you the reason for the attacks on AMLO which you have been supporting...

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Re: Is Mexico being led by a fool?

Post by neverfail » Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:42 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:33 am

Well, Neverfail, this may explain to you the reason for the attacks on AMLO which you have been supporting...
I plead innocent of wrongdoing Sertorio.

https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/mexicos-d ... celerates/

I opened this discussion by transcribing the above essay for discussion. As I see it I was not supporting the viewpoint expressed as reporting it.

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Re: Is Mexico being led by a fool?

Post by neverfail » Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:04 am

The plot thickens:

https://asiatimes.com/2020/07/mexicos-d ... -up-speed/

As Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador (AMLO) continues to fail on all fronts, his mistakes are leading to a huge cost in human lives due to his inept handling of the pandemic. His refusal to mitigate the collapse of the economy with conventional economic tools is making matters worse and his behavior has become increasingly irrational.

AMLO once again canceled a sizable private investment, this time an energy generation project on the verge of construction thanks to the necessary paperwork being finalized. He reinforced his attacks on his “adversaries” in the media and in the private sector, shutting down crucial autonomous government entities in charge of overlooking the proper operation of society and the economy. And he announced plans to travel to the US to pay homage to Donald Trump, who has humiliated Mexico consistently since he launched his candidacy and is universally reviled in the country.

:o :shock: :?: :?: :?:

What an unabashed bum kisser!


Regretably, other references to Mexico's current prospects seem to support Manuel Suarez-Mier's gloomy prognosis. Sample this one:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/08/worl ... ogin=email

"Mexico’s Leftist Leader Rejects Big Spending to Ease Virus’s Sting"

"Even before the coronavirus hit, Mexico was in recession. :o :shock:"

"The pandemic could lead to an economic reckoning worse than anything Mexico has seen in perhaps a century."
So Mexico's economy now is poised to sink from a state of lesser recession into a state of hopeless depression.

I have no idea of what Mexico's current credit worthiness rating is like. Junk bond status is the only valid reason I can think of that mightdeter a government from spending big on a rescue package to salvage the nation's economic fortunes. You cannot spend what you do not have or cannot borrow. But from reports it is not unlikely that Sr. Obrador may lack the nous in economic matters needed to comprehend even that.

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Re: Is Mexico being led by a fool?

Post by Sertorio » Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:17 am

neverfail wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:04 am
The plot thickens:

https://asiatimes.com/2020/07/mexicos-d ... -up-speed/

As Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador (AMLO) continues to fail on all fronts, his mistakes are leading to a huge cost in human lives due to his inept handling of the pandemic. His refusal to mitigate the collapse of the economy with conventional economic tools is making matters worse and his behavior has become increasingly irrational...

(Blah! Blah! Blah!)
I see that your single source of (mis)information about Mexico has struck again, and you keep believing anything he says!... :twisted:

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Re: Is Mexico being led by a fool?

Post by neverfail » Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:02 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:17 am


I see that your single source of (mis)information about Mexico has struck again, and you keep believing anything he says!... :twisted:
No! I did a double check via google and other sources of information that came up tend to support the bleak picture of contemporary Mexico and its prospects presented by Manuel Suárez-Mier.

Agreed that Mier's tone is particularly caustic but then (wjhat the hell!) Mexico is after all HIS country. Witnessing even from afar how it is being mismanaged into the ground must make his heart bleed.

Then question I ask myself is: what moves you to try and defend Obrador? Just because a foreign politican labels himself as "left wing" it does not follow thast it necessarily makes him the most competent, highly principled individual to lead the country.

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