Emasculating Assad's Syria: A Kurdish state within?

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Emasculating Assad's Syria: A Kurdish state within?

Post by neverfail » Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:21 am

This map explains everything.

http://energy-cg.com/MiddleEast/Syria/S ... up_web.png

While most of Syria's natural gas reserves are in government controlled areas, most of its oil are in the Kurdish controlled region northeast of the Euphrates River.

By relocating US troops in Syria to these oil bearing districts ostensibly to "guard" them against falling into 'terrorist" hands, what Trump seems to have done has been to provide Syrian Kurdistan with the wherewithal to sustain their regional economy.

The same move has simultaneously denied the same oil reserves to the Assad government: making it so much harder for this to get its part of war ravaged Syria back on its feet.

Trump may have pulled off a fast one. Let Turkey have its 20 mile wide buffer zone in the north if it likes - the bulk of Syrian Kurdistan is further to the south. There also seems to be a meeting point with Iraqi Kurdistan in the most northerly point on the Iraq - Syria border. Mutual strength?

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Re: Emasculating Assad's Syria: A Kurdish state within?

Post by Milo » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:35 pm

Trump is undoubtedly the last President of America who will oppose Islam.

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Re: Emasculating Assad's Syria: A Kurdish state within?

Post by neverfail » Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:03 pm

Milo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:35 pm
Trump is undoubtedly the last President of America who will oppose Islam.
Sorry Milo, but as I see it he is not "opposing Islam" as much as playing off one faction against another. By no means will be be the last to do that.

Putin is in the same game.

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Re: Emasculating Assad's Syria: A Kurdish state within?

Post by cassowary » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:33 pm

neverfail wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:21 am
This map explains everything.

http://energy-cg.com/MiddleEast/Syria/S ... up_web.png

While most of Syria's natural gas reserves are in government controlled areas, most of its oil are in the Kurdish controlled region northeast of the Euphrates River.

By relocating US troops in Syria to these oil bearing districts ostensibly to "guard" them against falling into 'terrorist" hands, what Trump seems to have done has been to provide Syrian Kurdistan with the wherewithal to sustain their regional economy.

The same move has simultaneously denied the same oil reserves to the Assad government: making it so much harder for this to get its part of war ravaged Syria back on its feet.

Trump may have pulled off a fast one. Let Turkey have its 20 mile wide buffer zone in the north if it likes - the bulk of Syrian Kurdistan is further to the south. There also seems to be a meeting point with Iraqi Kurdistan in the most northerly point on the Iraq - Syria border. Mutual strength?
You could be right, Neverfail. Good observation. Trump is a crafty one. Let’s see what he does.

The thing about Trump is to use your eyes and not your ears. Watch what he does, not listen to what he says.
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Re: Emasculating Assad's Syria: A Kurdish state within?

Post by neverfail » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:10 am

cassowary wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:33 pm
neverfail wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:21 am
This map explains everything.

http://energy-cg.com/MiddleEast/Syria/S ... up_web.png

While most of Syria's natural gas reserves are in government controlled areas, most of its oil are in the Kurdish controlled region northeast of the Euphrates River.

By relocating US troops in Syria to these oil bearing districts ostensibly to "guard" them against falling into 'terrorist" hands, what Trump seems to have done has been to provide Syrian Kurdistan with the wherewithal to sustain their regional economy.

The same move has simultaneously denied the same oil reserves to the Assad government: making it so much harder for this to get its part of war ravaged Syria back on its feet.

Trump may have pulled off a fast one. Let Turkey have its 20 mile wide buffer zone in the north if it likes - the bulk of Syrian Kurdistan is further to the south. There also seems to be a meeting point with Iraqi Kurdistan in the most northerly point on the Iraq - Syria border. Mutual strength?
You could be right, Neverfail. Good observation. Trump is a crafty one. Let’s see what he does.

The thing about Trump is to use your eyes and not your ears. Watch what he does, not listen to what he says.
:idea: It came clear to me only when I spotted that map while looking for something else on Google.
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The Kurds would not love Trump for letting the Turks move into that 20 mile wide buffer zone at cost to themselves. But as I see it that was likely "the sacrifice lamb" that had to go in order to placate Ergodan enough to let Trump get away with it.

The oil (it will have to be shipped out through either Turkey or Iraq) will help fund an (unofficial, unrecognized) Kurdish state much like the one in northern Iraq. Ergodan will not like that but as with northern Iraq will learn to live with it.

Assad will hate that Turkish buffer zone being infilled under Turkish supervision with his sworn enemies. It will be a nurturing ground for Islamic militants (and further trouble) even while it protects Turkey's southern flank.

The Russians will continue to play the double game of mounting joint military patrols with Turkish troops in that buffer zone (more to stop their allies from getting into mischief than for any other reason) while continuing to support Assad. The game is known as being the regional power broker.

Then they all go on to live unhappily ever after, as does Syria.

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Re: Emasculating Assad's Syria: A Kurdish state within?

Post by Milo » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:20 am

neverfail wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:03 pm
Milo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:35 pm
Trump is undoubtedly the last President of America who will oppose Islam.
Sorry Milo, but as I see it he is not "opposing Islam" as much as playing off one faction against another. By no means will be be the last to do that.

Putin is in the same game.
Islam is eating its young but the US has committed huge resources to stopping that process.. Allowing, even encouraging, Muslim factions to face off against each other will either improve Islam and destroy it. I doubt that it will improve it.

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Re: Emasculating Assad's Syria: A Kurdish state within?

Post by Sertorio » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:07 pm

Milo wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:20 am
neverfail wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:03 pm
Milo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:35 pm
Trump is undoubtedly the last President of America who will oppose Islam.
Sorry Milo, but as I see it he is not "opposing Islam" as much as playing off one faction against another. By no means will be be the last to do that.

Putin is in the same game.
Islam is eating its young but the US has committed huge resources to stopping that process.. Allowing, even encouraging, Muslim factions to face off against each other will either improve Islam and destroy it. I doubt that it will improve it.
Only education and a change in civilizational paradigma can make Muslims more acceptable to the rest of us. Although difficult, it isn't impossible to achieve. A significant percentage of Turks have already moved in that direction, although the majority hasn't yet. The same can be said of Iranians, Lebanese, Syrians and Iraqis. Establishing normal relations with those countries will speed the process up, but some western countries (I wonder which ones...) insist on trying to impose their will on those peoples by force, which will only slow the process down...

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