Sertorio wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:09 pm
I was for a while in South Africa and I was then told by an Afrikaner friend that there weren't any Bantu peoples in the present day Cape Province when the Dutch started settling it. The only indigenous people there were the so called Bushmen, who didn't own land nor practiced agriculture. By then the Bantu were still north of the Vaal river.
As such the White settlers took no land from anyone, and the present day Bantu South Africans have no right whatsoever to any of that land. And since no Whites could own land in any of the apartheid time Bantustans, I'm quite sure that there will be enough land in South Africa to satisfy any Blacks wishing to dedicate themselves to agriculture.
Thanks for sharing your first hand South Africa experience with us Sertorio.
To my knowledge your Afrikaner informant is absolutely correct about Cape Colony not having a "
bantu" (conventional
negro) before the Dutch arrived; except for one small detail. The indigenous inhabitants of that part of present-day South Africa were known as Hottentots - not Bushmen - and unlike the Bushmen further north in the Kalahari Desert who were/are hunter/gatherer types (like our Australian aborigines) the Hottentot were semi-nomadic herdsmen who lived off their cattle. Their home was the open grasslands on the high plateau that occupies most ofm South Africa's interior known as the Karoo.
However, as the Hottentot and the Bushmen are of the same racial group (distinct from the
negroes) for Afrikaner informant's confusion of identities is perhaps understandable.
Despite the fact that the millions of negroes resident in Cape Colony have no ancestral tribal roots there, groups of them, even some living on the edge of Cape Town, are attempting to lodge bogus claims to land there on the spurious basis of alleged ancestral ownership. Instead of having backbone and telling them "no, the land is not rightfully yours to claim" ; Ramposa, the current ANC government leader supported by a so-called "radical" (i.e.vengeful) faction within his own party, has demonstrated his willingness to indulge them in their quest.
You call that "socialist redistribution"
cassowary but I do not see it that way at all. I see no such organised agenda but rather the case of a spineless, opportunist, little piece of political lowlife attempting to buy votes at the expense of somebody else - not the same!
I have had a lifetime of experience and believe me: I would far rather deal with an honest and honourable socialist that a dishonest and dishonourable capitalist - otherwise known as a crook!
