Venezuela Negotiations Without the US

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Re: Venezuela Negotiations Without the US

Post by Sertorio » Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:11 pm

Doc wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:26 am
SteveFoerster wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:13 am
Doc wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:10 am
The spin in the article is obvious. Funny that you don't acknowledge that. :lol:
He doesn't care. The U.S. is the Great Satan, and any regime in opposition to it, however loathsome, must therefore be embraced. It doesn't matter how obvious the lies are that must be taken as true. It doesn't matter how large the body count that must be overlooked.
I once went on a walk through of an old large multi-story building with my boss at that time and a real estate agent. The agent kept saying "Not a crack anywhere" Even though there were cracks everywhere 1/2 inch wide on the surface in places. Maybe Sertorio missed his true profession. :P
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Re: Venezuela Negotiations Without the US

Post by Doc » Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:05 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:11 pm
Doc wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:26 am
SteveFoerster wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:13 am
Doc wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:10 am
The spin in the article is obvious. Funny that you don't acknowledge that. :lol:
He doesn't care. The U.S. is the Great Satan, and any regime in opposition to it, however loathsome, must therefore be embraced. It doesn't matter how obvious the lies are that must be taken as true. It doesn't matter how large the body count that must be overlooked.
I once went on a walk through of an old large multi-story building with my boss at that time and a real estate agent. The agent kept saying "Not a crack anywhere" Even though there were cracks everywhere 1/2 inch wide on the surface in places. Maybe Sertorio missed his true profession. :P
When you don't have arguments, play the clown!... :P
Not to worry Sertorio I have no intention of replacing you :P
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Re: Venezuela Negotiations Without the US

Post by Sertorio » Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:49 pm

Doc wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:05 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:11 pm
Doc wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:26 am
SteveFoerster wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:13 am
Doc wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:10 am
The spin in the article is obvious. Funny that you don't acknowledge that. :lol:
He doesn't care. The U.S. is the Great Satan, and any regime in opposition to it, however loathsome, must therefore be embraced. It doesn't matter how obvious the lies are that must be taken as true. It doesn't matter how large the body count that must be overlooked.
I once went on a walk through of an old large multi-story building with my boss at that time and a real estate agent. The agent kept saying "Not a crack anywhere" Even though there were cracks everywhere 1/2 inch wide on the surface in places. Maybe Sertorio missed his true profession. :P
When you don't have arguments, play the clown!... :P
Not to worry Sertorio I have no intention of replacing you :P
You couldn't... I always have the arguments... :lol:

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Re: Venezuela Negotiations Without the US

Post by Doc » Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:37 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:49 pm
Doc wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:05 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:11 pm
Doc wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:26 am
SteveFoerster wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:13 am
Doc wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:10 am
The spin in the article is obvious. Funny that you don't acknowledge that. :lol:
He doesn't care. The U.S. is the Great Satan, and any regime in opposition to it, however loathsome, must therefore be embraced. It doesn't matter how obvious the lies are that must be taken as true. It doesn't matter how large the body count that must be overlooked.
I once went on a walk through of an old large multi-story building with my boss at that time and a real estate agent. The agent kept saying "Not a crack anywhere" Even though there were cracks everywhere 1/2 inch wide on the surface in places. Maybe Sertorio missed his true profession. :P
When you don't have arguments, play the clown!... :P
Not to worry Sertorio I have no intention of replacing you :P
You couldn't... I always have the arguments... :lol:
Great ! Now if you only had some facts ! :lol:
“"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros

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Re: Venezuela Negotiations Without the US

Post by neverfail » Wed Sep 08, 2021 3:55 pm

Venezuela?

Their primate city, Caracas, has the World's highest rate of violent crime. The country's provincial cities and rural regions are unlikely to be significently better.

Can democracy possibly prosper in a society like that?

Highly unlikely!

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Re: Venezuela Negotiations Without the US

Post by Sertorio » Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:03 pm

neverfail wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 3:55 pm
Venezuela?

Their primate city, Caracas, has the World's highest rate of violent crime. The country's provincial cities and rural regions are unlikely to be significently better.

Can democracy possibly prosper in a society like that?

Highly unlikely!
It would be easier if the US stopped sabotaging the country. But the US always wants to destroy what it cannot control...

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Re: Venezuela Negotiations Without the US

Post by neverfail » Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:12 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:03 pm
neverfail wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 3:55 pm
Venezuela?

Their primate city, Caracas, has the World's highest rate of violent crime. The country's provincial cities and rural regions are unlikely to be significently better.

Can democracy possibly prosper in a society like that?

Highly unlikely!
It would be easier if the US stopped sabotaging the country. But the US always wants to destroy what it cannot control...
"Sabotaging" the country? The USA does not need to step in and do that as Venezuelan governments, especially those of recent memory, seem to have done a thorough job of that with bad policy.

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Re: Venezuela Negotiations Without the US

Post by Doc » Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:24 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:03 pm
neverfail wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 3:55 pm
Venezuela?

Their primate city, Caracas, has the World's highest rate of violent crime. The country's provincial cities and rural regions are unlikely to be significently better.

Can democracy possibly prosper in a society like that?

Highly unlikely!
It would be easier if the US stopped sabotaging the country. But the US always wants to destroy what it cannot control...
What a great description of Communist Totalitarianism !!!

https://www.dailywire.com/news/cuba-pas ... rterrorism
Cuba Passes ‘Misinformation’ Law Calling Online Criticism Of The Government ‘Cyberterrorism’

By Ben Zeisloft

Sep 7, 2021 DailyWire.com

AMSTERDAM, NETHERLANDS - 2021/07/17: A protester holds a Cuban flag during the demonstration.
Ana Fernandez/SOPA Images/LightRocket via Getty Images

Cuba passed legislation treating “misinformation” as “cyberterrorism.”

The move comes weeks after widespread anti-government protests gripped Cuba, which made international news largely because of photos and videos posted to social media by Cubans on the island. Cuban President Miguel Diaz-Canel explained that the law “goes against misinformation and cyber lies.”

As Reuters reports about Decree 35:

The legislation bans the spread of false news or messages and content deemed offensive or which “incite mobilizations or other acts that upset public order.” It also provides a channel for Cubans to inform on potential contraventions.

Those who have attempted to “subvert the constitutional order” will be considered cyberterrorists. It does not say what the penalties will be for violations.

The legislation drew concern from American lawmakers — including Rep. Maria Salazar (R-FL), a Cuban-American. She said that “the Castro regime intends to criminalize posting on social media — but nothing is going to stop the people of Cuba and their determination to be free.”
“"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros

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Re: Venezuela Negotiations Without the US

Post by Sertorio » Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:27 am

Doc wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:24 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:03 pm
neverfail wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 3:55 pm
Venezuela?

Their primate city, Caracas, has the World's highest rate of violent crime. The country's provincial cities and rural regions are unlikely to be significently better.

Can democracy possibly prosper in a society like that?

Highly unlikely!
It would be easier if the US stopped sabotaging the country. But the US always wants to destroy what it cannot control...
What a great description of Communist Totalitarianism !!!

https://www.dailywire.com/news/cuba-pas ... rterrorism
Cuba Passes ‘Misinformation’ Law Calling Online Criticism Of The Government ‘Cyberterrorism’

By Ben Zeisloft

Sep 7, 2021 DailyWire.com

AMSTERDAM, NETHERLANDS - 2021/07/17: A protester holds a Cuban flag during the demonstration.
Ana Fernandez/SOPA Images/LightRocket via Getty Images

Cuba passed legislation treating “misinformation” as “cyberterrorism.”

The move comes weeks after widespread anti-government protests gripped Cuba, which made international news largely because of photos and videos posted to social media by Cubans on the island. Cuban President Miguel Diaz-Canel explained that the law “goes against misinformation and cyber lies.”

As Reuters reports about Decree 35:

The legislation bans the spread of false news or messages and content deemed offensive or which “incite mobilizations or other acts that upset public order.” It also provides a channel for Cubans to inform on potential contraventions.

Those who have attempted to “subvert the constitutional order” will be considered cyberterrorists. It does not say what the penalties will be for violations.

The legislation drew concern from American lawmakers — including Rep. Maria Salazar (R-FL), a Cuban-American. She said that “the Castro regime intends to criminalize posting on social media — but nothing is going to stop the people of Cuba and their determination to be free.”
Try to deny the Holocaust in the US and see what happens to you...

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Re: Venezuela Negotiations Without the US

Post by Doc » Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:20 am

Sertorio wrote:
Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:27 am
Doc wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:24 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:03 pm
neverfail wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 3:55 pm
Venezuela?

Their primate city, Caracas, has the World's highest rate of violent crime. The country's provincial cities and rural regions are unlikely to be significently better.

Can democracy possibly prosper in a society like that?

Highly unlikely!
It would be easier if the US stopped sabotaging the country. But the US always wants to destroy what it cannot control...
What a great description of Communist Totalitarianism !!!

https://www.dailywire.com/news/cuba-pas ... rterrorism
Cuba Passes ‘Misinformation’ Law Calling Online Criticism Of The Government ‘Cyberterrorism’

By Ben Zeisloft

Sep 7, 2021 DailyWire.com

AMSTERDAM, NETHERLANDS - 2021/07/17: A protester holds a Cuban flag during the demonstration.
Ana Fernandez/SOPA Images/LightRocket via Getty Images

Cuba passed legislation treating “misinformation” as “cyberterrorism.”

The move comes weeks after widespread anti-government protests gripped Cuba, which made international news largely because of photos and videos posted to social media by Cubans on the island. Cuban President Miguel Diaz-Canel explained that the law “goes against misinformation and cyber lies.”

As Reuters reports about Decree 35:

The legislation bans the spread of false news or messages and content deemed offensive or which “incite mobilizations or other acts that upset public order.” It also provides a channel for Cubans to inform on potential contraventions.

Those who have attempted to “subvert the constitutional order” will be considered cyberterrorists. It does not say what the penalties will be for violations.

The legislation drew concern from American lawmakers — including Rep. Maria Salazar (R-FL), a Cuban-American. She said that “the Castro regime intends to criminalize posting on social media — but nothing is going to stop the people of Cuba and their determination to be free.”
Try to deny the Holocaust in the US and see what happens to you...
People get mad at you. But it is not a crime.
“"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros

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