Change the subject because you have nothing else to argue.Sertorio wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:57 amIntelligent people know that Socialism and Marxism are not the same thing. Just like the Roman Catholic Church and the Sevent Day Adventists are not the same thing...Unfortunately there aren't as many intelligent people arouns as one would like...armchair_pundit wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:20 amcassowary wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:07 amI do understand. It is people like you and Neverfail that do not.Sertorio wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:36 amYou still do not understand what socialism is. Either it is beyond your capacity to understand, or you have decided that you were not going to understand it...cassowary wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:02 am(...)The Socialist/Communist ideology is the biggest killer of all ideologies and I have explained why to you so many times. It goes against human nature. We are not meant to be collectivized. We are all selfish. That's they way we are made. To go against this requires a lot of compulsion.(...)
Marx gave us the theory of dialectic materialism. It goes something like this. There is only the material world and nothing else. Society evolves according to the forces of nature. It has evolved from primitive communalism to slavery to feudalism to capitalism. The next phases are Socialism and then Communism.
My theory goes like this.
1)Democracy will lead to Socialism because as Aristotle said, the poor are the majority and the will of the majority is supreme in a democracy.
2)Socialism leads to poverty and dictatorship.
Point 2) is relevant to our topic of discussion. So I won’t talk about 1) which I spoke of previously.
Human nature makes Socialism unworkable. The law of nature is that each organism competes with others to survive and pass on its genes. Nature has made us selfish and thus Socialism unworkable. Capitalism only requires each individual to pursue its own interests.
Socialism requires each individual to sacrifice his own interest for the good of the community. Thus is against the force of nature. To go against this force you need a counterforce. That is why Socialism always end up with dictators. Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler, Fatty Kim and Castro were all Socialist dictators. And they were also mass murderers.
This is cassowary’s version of dialectic materialism. Unlike Marx’s version, I have history to back me up.There fixed it for youneverfail wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:52 amYou must surely be aware by now that WE HAVE a closed mind.Sertorio wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:36 amYou still do not understand what socialism is. Either it is beyond your capacity to understand, or you have decided that you were not going to understand it...cassowary wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:02 am(...)The Socialist/Communist ideology is the biggest killer of all ideologies and I have explained why to you so many times. It goes against human nature. We are not meant to be collectivized. We are all selfish. That's they way we are made. To go against this requires a lot of compulsion.(...)![]()
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Because trying as hard as you have, you can never convince us to embrace the siren song of social-communism. EVEN by revising history and pointing guns at our heads in 'Murica, and apparently Singapore. Kill enough of us and maybe, but that might backfire (pun intended) terribly for your cause and its followers...
You can't out debate Cassowary, so you try ridicule and denigrating his culture. Straight out of the Alinsky rules...
Yes, socialism is communism light, so technically not the same, just a progression from bad to worse...