Even the most brilliant of leaders would be hard pressed to make something of this mess.neverfail wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:09 pmNo comparison!cassowary wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:02 am
I always regarded Socialism as theft. Socialists seek to take from those who have more to give to those who have less. It preys on people's envy - one of the 7 deadly sins. Stalin and Mao did the same. The ANC always have had a Communist element that wanted the wealth of the more successful who happened to be White in this case. Had they been black, the same thing would have happened. Being white simply gave them an excuse to steal.
In this case the proposal is not to take land from the peasants and turn them into state owned collective farms (that was quite reprehensible of Stalin) but to take from someone in order to give to someone else in private ownership. If only they were going to pay the current owners just compensation then it would be valid agrarian reform, not socialism as you routinely misdefine it.
We had agrarian reform in 19th century Australia when grazing land often illegally appropriated by our "squatters" (graziers, sheep ranchers) was taken from them by our colonial government and subdivided into smaller landholdings and sold off to aspiring family farmers. The result was no drop in fine wool production but the blossinging of new farming industries including (significantly) wheat production; which by the end of the 19th century had put this country on the map as a globally important wheat exporter.
The trouble was that the squatters had a fixed idea about what the land could be used for. The new generation of settler-farmers who superseded them had more open minds about land usage and new innovative ideas about what the land could produce.
Sometimes reform is worth the risk.
The thing to do is bring on forced expropriation WITH compensation but where's the money going to come from after Zuma looting the place for so long?
Also, is this going to be a crony rewards system or will some test of competence be considered? OTOH, can Ramaphosa stay in power if he doesn't just fling pork around?
I know a number of South African (whites) who have already bolted. One in particular left a senior management career to drive a bus here; he's quite happy with the choice!
This is not pretty and it won't be for some time.