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Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Shameless

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:31 am
by SteveFoerster
Milo wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:05 am
My stock reply to these sort of things is that the REAL problem is that some universities are that highly valued.

The education system should be as equal as possible.
Please elaborate?

Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Shameless

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:54 am
by Doc
lzzrdgrrl wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:39 pm
Wake me up when someone decides to give their valedictorian address in assless chaps......'>.......
I would just say that it is presumed that assless chaps are inherently full of it.

The College Scam2

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:21 pm
by lzzrdgrrl
If something's worth cheating for, that sorta implies a value outside the range of normal, pedestrian values. The scam supports the sham.....'>......

Re: The College Scam2

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:21 pm
by DMadmin
Sorry folks I tried to merge "The College Scam" and Lifestyles of the Rich and Shameless" but munged it a bit.

Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Shameless

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:59 pm
by Milo
SteveFoerster wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:31 am
Milo wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:05 am
My stock reply to these sort of things is that the REAL problem is that some universities are that highly valued.

The education system should be as equal as possible.
Please elaborate?
In Canada, generally speaking, we don't have these 'brand name' schools. If you go to an accredited university here your degree is as good as any other. And our primary education system is quite good too.

That is as it should be. The reason we have public education is largely because it was recognized that relying on private education will increase disparity.

Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Shameless

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:13 am
by Doc
Milo wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:59 pm
SteveFoerster wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:31 am
Milo wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:05 am
My stock reply to these sort of things is that the REAL problem is that some universities are that highly valued.

The education system should be as equal as possible.
Please elaborate?
In Canada, generally speaking, we don't have these 'brand name' schools. If you go to an accredited university here your degree is as good as any other. And our primary education system is quite good too.

That is as it should be. The reason we have public education is largely because it was recognized that relying on private education will increase disparity.
Yes it seems that those ivy league schools diplomas are really worth that much if anyone can bribe their way in. Instead of "Ivy league" maybe they should be call "trailer park" schools. As the price of entry is dragging money behind ones car rather the actually being acedemically qualified

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ta ... in-college
Two Stanford Students Are Suing Schools Involved In The College Admissions Scam

Erica Olsen and Kalea Woods are seeking punitive and compensatory damages, as well as compensation for the $80 application fee to apply to Yale University.
Tanya Chen BuzzFeed News Reporter

Posted on March 14, 2019, at 12:43 p.m. ET

Two Stanford students have filed a class-action complaint against the schools involved in the massive nationwide college cheating scandal, claiming they didn't get a fair shot in their applications to the universities.

Erica Olsen and Kalea Woods are suing the schools enmeshed in the racketeering scandal, including Yale University; Georgetown University; the University of Texas; University of Southern California; University of California, Los Angeles; University of San Diego; and Stanford University.

Olsen and Woods are also suing William "Rick" Singer, the man accused of running the entire scam, as well as his organization, the Key Worldwide Foundation.

According to court documents, Olsen and Woods alleged that they were both "qualified" students when they applied to prestigious schools like Yale and USC. However, they were unaware that "unqualified students were slipping in through the back door of the admissions process by committing fraud, bribery, cheating, and dishonesty" during their admissions process.

This bombshell revelation has caused emotional and financial damages to their current academic standings, they allege.

"At the time [Olsen] applied, she was never informed that the process of admission was an unfair, rigged process, in which rich parents could buy their way into the university through bribery," their complaint stated.

"Had she known that the system at Yale University was warped and rigged by fraud, she would not have spent the money to apply to the school. She also did not receive what she paid for — a fair admissions consideration process."

Both plaintiffs are also seeking compensation for paying application fees to the schools — approximately $80 each.

The two students also allege that the scandal, which involves the school they're currently attending, has cheapened their degrees, and may cast a shadow of doubt about their merits to future employers.

"[Woods'] degree is now not worth as much as it was before, because prospective employers may now question whether she was admitted to the university on her own merits, versus having rich parents who were willing to bribe school officials," the case stated.
BTW their are reports that as many as 800 families tried to bribe their children's way in these schools

Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Shameless

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:59 pm
by Jim the Moron
Milo wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:59 pm
SteveFoerster wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:31 am
Milo wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:05 am
My stock reply to these sort of things is that the REAL problem is that some universities are that highly valued.

The education system should be as equal as possible.
Please elaborate?
In Canada, generally speaking, we don't have these 'brand name' schools. If you go to an accredited university here your degree is as good as any other. And our primary education system is quite good too.

That is as it should be. The reason we have public education is largely because it was recognized that relying on private education will increase disparity.
From something I was reading:
"An individual's choice of major, such as engineering, is a far more powerful factor in someone's eventual earnings than his or her choice of college."

Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Shameless

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:04 am
by Milo
Jim the Moron wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:59 pm
Milo wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:59 pm
SteveFoerster wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:31 am
Milo wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:05 am
My stock reply to these sort of things is that the REAL problem is that some universities are that highly valued.

The education system should be as equal as possible.
Please elaborate?
In Canada, generally speaking, we don't have these 'brand name' schools. If you go to an accredited university here your degree is as good as any other. And our primary education system is quite good too.

That is as it should be. The reason we have public education is largely because it was recognized that relying on private education will increase disparity.
From something I was reading:
"An individual's choice of major, such as engineering, is a far more powerful factor in someone's eventual earnings than his or her choice of college."
Definitely. That's why after having a ball doing a Poli Sci undergrad I went to law school.

Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Shameless

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:14 am
by Jim the Moron
Milo wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:04 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:59 pm
Milo wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:59 pm
SteveFoerster wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:31 am
Milo wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:05 am
My stock reply to these sort of things is that the REAL problem is that some universities are that highly valued.

The education system should be as equal as possible.
Please elaborate?
In Canada, generally speaking, we don't have these 'brand name' schools. If you go to an accredited university here your degree is as good as any other. And our primary education system is quite good too.

That is as it should be. The reason we have public education is largely because it was recognized that relying on private education will increase disparity.
From something I was reading:
"An individual's choice of major, such as engineering, is a far more powerful factor in someone's eventual earnings than his or her choice of college."
Definitely. That's why after having a ball doing a Poli Sci undergrad I went to law school.
Yep. But on the other hand years ago a friend allowed that her degree (top college) was in Philosophy. I asked her "why?" After staring me down for some seconds she replied "because." I never again broached the subject with her.

Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Shameless

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:22 pm
by Doc
Jim the Moron wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:14 am
Milo wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:04 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:59 pm
Milo wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:59 pm
SteveFoerster wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:31 am
Milo wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:05 am
My stock reply to these sort of things is that the REAL problem is that some universities are that highly valued.

The education system should be as equal as possible.
Please elaborate?
In Canada, generally speaking, we don't have these 'brand name' schools. If you go to an accredited university here your degree is as good as any other. And our primary education system is quite good too.

That is as it should be. The reason we have public education is largely because it was recognized that relying on private education will increase disparity.
From something I was reading:
"An individual's choice of major, such as engineering, is a far more powerful factor in someone's eventual earnings than his or her choice of college."
Definitely. That's why after having a ball doing a Poli Sci undergrad I went to law school.
Yep. But on the other hand years ago a friend allowed that her degree (top college) was in Philosophy. I asked her "why?" After staring me down for some seconds she replied "because." I never again broached the subject with her.
I had a college Philosophy prof that could start with just about any argument presented to him make three logical arguments as a proof in response, and always conclude with "Thus proving the existence of God." Why am I bringing this up now? Well I guess it is because I did not major in Philosophy, but engineering instead. Thus proving the existence of God. :D