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Re: Crooked Trump!

Post by SteveFoerster » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:34 am

neverfail wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:08 am
US politics attracts some truly grubby characters, doesn't it?
Yes, although "US" is a needless qualifier there.
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Re: Crooked Trump!

Post by Milo » Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:54 pm

US President Donald Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen has pleaded guilty in a Manhattan court to violating campaign finance laws.

He said he did so at the direction of "the candidate", for the "principal purpose of influencing [the] election".

Mr Cohen's admission was related to hush money paid to Mr Trump's alleged mistresses.

The 51-year-old admitted eight counts, including tax and bank fraud in a plea deal with prosecutors.

Mr Trump ignored questions about Mr Cohen as he arrived on Tuesday evening for a pre-scheduled rally in West Virginia.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45265546

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Re: Crooked Trump!

Post by lzzrdgrrl » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:47 pm

We need to keep in mind that Trump is a post modernist. Not the kind we usual see, but the one that is serving the majority their own medicine......'>..........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucauldi ... e_analysis
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Re: Crooked Trump!

Post by Mr. Perfect » Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:54 pm

If Cohen had evidence he would have turned it over already and it would have been leaked to every outlet in America.

Another nothingburger, Trump impeachment attempts 0-22.

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Re: with Trump, "what you see is what you get."

Post by neverfail » Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:08 pm

lzzrdgrrl wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:47 pm
We need to keep in mind that Trump is a post modernist. Not the kind we usual see, but the one that is serving the majority their own medicine......'>..........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucauldi ... e_analysis
Hi Izzy.

It is well known that christian fundamentalists living in the Midwest and deep South represent Trump's most devoted supporters. I have long wondered what such people see in him. Then just the other night on one of our TV current affairs programs I saw a group of them (I believe in Kentucky but from memory I am not absolutely sure of this) interviewed by one of our investigative reporters. They came across as perfectly sane.

One lady interviewed remarked (through not in these exact words) that Trump is what he appears to be.

Members of the group interviewed were all aware that Trump was/is a serial sinner. However another in the group who came across as their pastor opined 'but why hold that against him? If he failed because of that they we have all failed.'

Members of the group expressed mild doubts about some of his policies but clearly these doubts and misgivings were not enough of a turn off to compromise their devotion to the man.

In other words: warts and all Trump comes across to them as a real person: not the fake public image contrived by a bunch of spin doctors.

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Re: Crooked Trump!

Post by lzzrdgrrl » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:11 am

What he seems to be and who supports him is not as important as you might imagine. His general modus is defiantly oppositional to the expected role of a legislator; to have a policy or proposal and to advance it by appeals to logic and the common interest and to work through opposition to an acceptable compromise. The 'Art of the Deal' approach is to twit something, note the reaction and to use that reaction to move towards the next objective. Not the one set upon at the onset, but the one that is revealed. Everything is an act of discovery and uncovering......

Maybe The Donald is more of a Cardinal Richelieu than anything we're prepared to deal with. He confounds our Enlightenment assumptions about the worth of a representative republic and the effectiveness of logic and reason in general.......
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Re: Crooked Trump!

Post by Milo » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:59 am

Mr. Perfect wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:54 pm
If Cohen had evidence he would have turned it over already and it would have been leaked to every outlet in America.

Another nothingburger, Trump impeachment attempts 0-22.
He's actually implied he had evidence from day one. What he's actually got is another matter.

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Re: Crooked Trump!

Post by Milo » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:10 am

lzzrdgrrl wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:47 pm
We need to keep in mind that Trump is a post modernist. Not the kind we usual see, but the one that is serving the majority their own medicine......'>..........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucauldi ... e_analysis
We need to keep in mind that he is a lifelong crook!

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Re: Crooked Trump!

Post by Mr. Perfect » Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:07 pm

Milo wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:59 am
Mr. Perfect wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:54 pm
If Cohen had evidence he would have turned it over already and it would have been leaked to every outlet in America.

Another nothingburger, Trump impeachment attempts 0-22.
He's actually implied he had evidence from day one. What he's actually got is another matter.
We've been sitting through 2-3 years of implied evidence, so far nothing except dozens of retractions. IIRC the first charges were NJ mafia and Russian money laundering. After 3 years of investigation, nothing.

Trump may be the cleanest person in politics. No person in history is more investigated. From what I can tell he's been investigated by every media outlet, the FBI, CIA, NSA, House and Senate and they've found nothing.

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Re: Crooked Trump!

Post by Mr. Perfect » Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:21 pm

Further, this will probably be off the headlines by Monday. Trump was supposed to be impeached after the Putin summit and those indictments, now nobody is talking about it.

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