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Turkey agrees to Finland joining NATO

Post by cassowary » Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:33 am

Erdogan says Turkey will ratify Finland’s NATO membership
President Recep Tayyip Erdogan says Turkey will ratify Finland’s NATO membership, paving the way for the country to join the military bloc ahead of Sweden.

Erdogan announced the decision on Friday after meeting with Finnish President Sauli Niinisto in Ankara. Without Erdogan’s approval, Finland would not be able to join because NATO countries must unanimously agree on new members.

Sweden and Finland jointly handed over their membership applications in Brussels in May, reversing their longstanding policy of nonalignment after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

The Turkish government accused both countries of being too soft on groups that it calls “terrorist” organisations but expressed more reservations about Sweden.

“When it comes to fulfilling its pledges in the trilateral memorandum of understanding, we have seen that Finland has taken authentic and concrete steps,” Erdogan said at a news conference, referring to an agreement signed by Helsinki, Stockholm and Ankara in June to pave the way for the two Nordic countries to enter the military alliance.
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Re: Turkey agrees to Finland joining NATO

Post by neverfail » Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:17 pm

cassowary wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:33 am
Erdogan says Turkey will ratify Finland’s NATO membership
President Recep Tayyip Erdogan says Turkey will ratify Finland’s NATO membership, paving the way for the country to join the military bloc ahead of Sweden.

Erdogan announced the decision on Friday after meeting with Finnish President Sauli Niinisto in Ankara. Without Erdogan’s approval, Finland would not be able to join because NATO countries must unanimously agree on new members.

Sweden and Finland jointly handed over their membership applications in Brussels in May, reversing their longstanding policy of nonalignment after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

The Turkish government accused both countries of being too soft on groups that it calls “terrorist” organisations but expressed more reservations about Sweden.

“When it comes to fulfilling its pledges in the trilateral memorandum of understanding, we have seen that Finland has taken authentic and concrete steps,” Erdogan said at a news conference, referring to an agreement signed by Helsinki, Stockholm and Ankara in June to pave the way for the two Nordic countries to enter the military alliance.
I have heard that Hungary, NATO's other loose cannon member state has fallen into line with Ergidan's Turkey and agreed to support Finland's admission.

Sweden's problem is that over the years this country has provided safehaven-sanctuary to members of what it considers members of persecuted minorities in their home countries - and that includes leaders of the Kurdish independence movement from eastern Turkey. What Swedes consider a humanitarian act Ergodan consider to be tacit support for the movement. Ergodan wants these extradited back to Turkey to stand trianl as "terrorists".

Does any reader believe that such men will ever receive a fair trial back in Turkey?

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Re: Turkey agrees to Finland joining NATO

Post by Sertorio » Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:01 pm

neverfail wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:17 pm
cassowary wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:33 am
Erdogan says Turkey will ratify Finland’s NATO membership
President Recep Tayyip Erdogan says Turkey will ratify Finland’s NATO membership, paving the way for the country to join the military bloc ahead of Sweden.

Erdogan announced the decision on Friday after meeting with Finnish President Sauli Niinisto in Ankara. Without Erdogan’s approval, Finland would not be able to join because NATO countries must unanimously agree on new members.

Sweden and Finland jointly handed over their membership applications in Brussels in May, reversing their longstanding policy of nonalignment after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

The Turkish government accused both countries of being too soft on groups that it calls “terrorist” organisations but expressed more reservations about Sweden.

“When it comes to fulfilling its pledges in the trilateral memorandum of understanding, we have seen that Finland has taken authentic and concrete steps,” Erdogan said at a news conference, referring to an agreement signed by Helsinki, Stockholm and Ankara in June to pave the way for the two Nordic countries to enter the military alliance.
I have heard that Hungary, NATO's other loose cannon member state has fallen into line with Ergidan's Turkey and agreed to support Finland's admission.

Sweden's problem is that over the years this country has provided safehaven-sanctuary to members of what it considers members of persecuted minorities in their home countries - and that includes leaders of the Kurdish independence movement from eastern Turkey. What Swedes consider a humanitarian act Ergodan consider to be tacit support for the movement. Ergodan wants these extradited back to Turkey to stand trianl as "terrorists".

Does any reader believe that such men will ever receive a fair trial back in Turkey?
Russia considered a humanitarian act to offer shelter in Russia proper to all civilians, men, women and children, from the former Ukrainian regions now annexed to Russia, and thus Russian citizens, in order to shelter them from the Ukrainian criminal shelling of Donbass cities. Some of those children who were not in the company of parents or other family, were initially placed in camps, and those who were believed to be orphan were either placed in foster homes or made available for adoption. In all cases the welfare of those children was paramount in the minds of the Russian authorities. In spite of that, western countries chose to consider protecting Russian children from the annexed regions as a war crime, and forced the ICC to issue an arrest warrant in the name of Vladimir Putin. Meanwhile real war criminals like Biden were left unmolested...

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Re: Turkey agrees to Finland joining NATO

Post by neverfail » Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:24 am

Well, Finland's admission will double the length of NATO's interface frontier with Russia.

Finland had a rather cozy relationship with the Soviet Union. After wartime Finland repudiated its pact with Nezi Germany in 1944 Josef Stalin let Finland off very lighrtly. Instead of incorporating this country into its emerging empire of conquest further south as the Red Army marched on towards Berlin; on agreement that Finland had to be neutral-non alligned in foreign policy. Finland was also left free to pursue its own socio-economic path to development. The country ddid not have to copy the Soviet system of state ownership or one party control.

For Stalin that was an act of generousity and of singular liberalism.

Well, clearly the Finns were not scared of the USSR as they made no attemp to jion the Western alliance. But it seems that Putin must have scared shit out of them for by joining NATO they are going against their own time honoured tradition born out of World War Two.

It also speaks well of Finnish perceptions of Western solidarity.

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Re: Turkey agrees to Finland joining NATO

Post by SteveFoerster » Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:04 pm

neverfail wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:24 am
Well, Finland's admission will double the length of NATO's interface frontier with Russia.

Finland had a rather cozy relationship with the Soviet Union. After wartime Finland repudiated its pact with Nezi Germany in 1944 Josef Stalin let Finland off very lighrtly. Instead of incorporating this country into its emerging empire of conquest further south as the Red Army marched on towards Berlin; on agreement that Finland had to be neutral-non alligned in foreign policy. Finland was also left free to pursue its own socio-economic path to development. The country ddid not have to copy the Soviet system of state ownership or one party control.

For Stalin that was an act of generousity and of singular liberalism.

Well, clearly the Finns were not scared of the USSR as they made no attemp to jion the Western alliance. But it seems that Putin must have scared shit out of them for by joining NATO they are going against their own time honoured tradition born out of World War Two.

It also speaks well of Finnish perceptions of Western solidarity.
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