Not only is that not obscure, it's obvious to anyone who understands the first thing about US politics.Sertorio wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:33 amWhen people don't think like you, must they have some obscure objective?...neverfail wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:23 amLetme see.Sertorio wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:10 amDeSantis Issues Most Blistering Takedown Yet Of US Role In Ukraine "Territorial Dispute"
by Tyler Durden - WEDNESDAY, MAR 15, 2023 - 02:50 AM
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At a moment Western officials and even some mainstream media are beginning to express doubt over Ukraine's ability to push Russian forces back, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who will likely enter the race for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, has issued his sharpest criticisms yet of America's role in the Ukraine war, calling it fundamentally a "territorial dispute" which the US should stay out of.![]()
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A Candidate's Point of View
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"Trying to outflank Trump in his bid for the nomination as Republican Party candidate for the 2024 election" would be the main reason for DeSantis to call "the Ukraine war fundamentally a "territorial dispute" which the US should stay out of"?... Couldn't DeSantis find any other issue closer to the American people's heart?...SteveFoerster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:24 amNot only is that not obscure, it's obvious to anyone who understands the first thing about US politics.Sertorio wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:33 amWhen people don't think like you, must they have some obscure objective?...neverfail wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:23 amLetme see.Sertorio wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:10 amDeSantis Issues Most Blistering Takedown Yet Of US Role In Ukraine "Territorial Dispute"
by Tyler Durden - WEDNESDAY, MAR 15, 2023 - 02:50 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/des ... al-dispute
At a moment Western officials and even some mainstream media are beginning to express doubt over Ukraine's ability to push Russian forces back, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who will likely enter the race for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, has issued his sharpest criticisms yet of America's role in the Ukraine war, calling it fundamentally a "territorial dispute" which the US should stay out of.![]()
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If you weren't so far out of your depth, you'd know that it's far from the only issue he's talked about.Sertorio wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:32 am"Trying to outflank Trump in his bid for the nomination as Republican Party candidate for the 2024 election" would be the main reason for DeSantis to call "the Ukraine war fundamentally a "territorial dispute" which the US should stay out of"?... Couldn't DeSantis find any other issue closer to the American people's heart?...SteveFoerster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:24 amNot only is that not obscure, it's obvious to anyone who understands the first thing about US politics.Sertorio wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:33 amWhen people don't think like you, must they have some obscure objective?...neverfail wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:23 amLetme see.Sertorio wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:10 amDeSantis Issues Most Blistering Takedown Yet Of US Role In Ukraine "Territorial Dispute"
by Tyler Durden - WEDNESDAY, MAR 15, 2023 - 02:50 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/des ... al-dispute
At a moment Western officials and even some mainstream media are beginning to express doubt over Ukraine's ability to push Russian forces back, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who will likely enter the race for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, has issued his sharpest criticisms yet of America's role in the Ukraine war, calling it fundamentally a "territorial dispute" which the US should stay out of.![]()
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DeSantis is trying to outflank Trump in his bid for the nomination as Republican Party candidate for the 2024 election?![]()
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I didn't say it was. I was referring to the only quote posted by neverfail:SteveFoerster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:41 amIf you weren't so far out of your depth, you'd know that it's far from the only issue he's talked about.Sertorio wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:32 am"Trying to outflank Trump in his bid for the nomination as Republican Party candidate for the 2024 election" would be the main reason for DeSantis to call "the Ukraine war fundamentally a "territorial dispute" which the US should stay out of"?... Couldn't DeSantis find any other issue closer to the American people's heart?...SteveFoerster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:24 amNot only is that not obscure, it's obvious to anyone who understands the first thing about US politics.
Now, what about that need of yours for new spectacles which I mentioned elsewhere?...At a moment Western officials and even some mainstream media are beginning to express doubt over Ukraine's ability to push Russian forces back, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who will likely enter the race for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, has issued his sharpest criticisms yet of America's role in the Ukraine war, calling it fundamentally a "territorial dispute" which the US should stay out of.
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The implication is the same, whether it's DeSantis or Neverfail quoting him.
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Steve, in your humble opinion was my remark about DeSantos' alleged ploy true or untrue?SteveFoerster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:15 amThe implication is the same, whether it's DeSantis or Neverfail quoting him.
American politicans, like those of other nationalities, are prone to bullshit on for the sake of getting public opinion (or support within their own parties) on side and/or to acheive other political goals normally obscure to we who are not within their esoteric profession.
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Clearly true.neverfail wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:41 pmSteve, in your humble opinion was my remark about DeSantos' alleged ploy true or untrue?SteveFoerster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:15 amThe implication is the same, whether it's DeSantis or Neverfail quoting him.
Strongly agree.neverfail wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:41 pmAmerican politicans, like those of other nationalities, are prone to bullshit on for the sake of getting public opinion (or support within their own parties) on side and/or to acheive other political goals normally obscure to we who are not within their esoteric profession.
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None of which proves that DeSantis was wrong when condemning America's intervention in the Ukraine war.SteveFoerster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:55 pmClearly true.neverfail wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:41 pmSteve, in your humble opinion was my remark about DeSantos' alleged ploy true or untrue?SteveFoerster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:15 amThe implication is the same, whether it's DeSantis or Neverfail quoting him.
Strongly agree.neverfail wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:41 pmAmerican politicans, like those of other nationalities, are prone to bullshit on for the sake of getting public opinion (or support within their own parties) on side and/or to acheive other political goals normally obscure to we who are not within their esoteric profession.
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Neverfail seems to be strongly pro interventionist in the case of Ukraine but not Taiwan. He is fully supportive of sending weapons to Ukraine and also Europe beefing up its armed forces but not the Australian armed forces.Sertorio wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:58 pmNone of which proves that DeSantis was wrong when condemning America's intervention in the Ukraine war.SteveFoerster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:55 pmClearly true.neverfail wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:41 pmSteve, in your humble opinion was my remark about DeSantos' alleged ploy true or untrue?SteveFoerster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:15 amThe implication is the same, whether it's DeSantis or Neverfail quoting him.
Strongly agree.neverfail wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:41 pmAmerican politicans, like those of other nationalities, are prone to bullshit on for the sake of getting public opinion (or support within their own parties) on side and/or to acheive other political goals normally obscure to we who are not within their esoteric profession.
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