Russia meddled in U.S. election: George W. Bush

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Re: Russia meddled in U.S. election: George W. Bush

Post by Milo » Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:28 pm

Well 20 indictments later the idea that Russian interference was "a hoax" should be put to bed, excluding the Alex Jones wackjobs.

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Post by cassowary » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:56 pm

Nobody said Russian interference was a hoax. * What was a hoax was that Trump colluded with the Russians. In fact, through Steele's Russian informers, it was Clinton who colluded with the Russians.

Those informers of Christopher Steele were likely to be FSB (formerly called KGB). Putin was helping both sides to shake American confidence in their democracy. In this, Putin was spectacularly successful. We now have one side of the aisle doubting the integrity of the FBI and the Justice Department. The other side is convinced that the Russians helped elect Trump and thus Trump is an illegitimate President.

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*The Russians have been interfering for a long time. See the stories they planted in the NYT by Commie sympathizer Walter Duranty.

Also, it should be pointed out that America has been interfering in other People's politics. Ask Netanyahu. Wouldn't it be nice if the Israelis indict oBUMa administration officials for interfering in the Israeli elections? The Americans also interfered with Singapore politics years ago which led to a rare spat.

So everybody is doing it. This whole Trump-Putin collusion caper is a much ado about nothing. Get back to work America to fix your problems.

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Re: Russia meddled in U.S. election: George W. Bush

Post by neverfail » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:06 pm

cassowary wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:56 pm
Nobody said it was a hoax. What was a hoax was that Trump colluded with the Russians. In fact, through Steele's Russian informers, it was Clinton who colluded with the Russians.

Those informers of Christopher Steele were likely to be FSB (formerly called KGB). Putin was helping both sides to shake American confidence in their democracy. In this, Putin was spectacularly successful. We now have one side of the aisle doubting the integrity of the FBI and the Justice Department. The other side is convinced that the Russians helped elect Trump and thus Trump is an illegitimate President.
Nicely put, Cassowary.

I recall pointing out to you in another thread; in the open US system a candidate for election has no real control over where his support comes from.

At one point in his 2016 campaign to become President, Trump even found his candidacy attracted the public endorsement of David Duke, the former Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. Trump probably could have done without such a toxic source of approval but could not stop this character from giving it anyhow. Same with the clandestine, manipulative campaign on his behalf by Vladimir Putin's undercover agents in the USA.

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Re: Russia meddled in U.S. election: George W. Bush

Post by Milo » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:27 pm

cassowary wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:56 pm
Nobody said Russian interference was a hoax. * What was a hoax was that Trump colluded with the Russians. In fact, through Steele's Russian informers, it was Clinton who colluded with the Russians.

Those informers of Christopher Steele were likely to be FSB (formerly called KGB). Putin was helping both sides to shake American confidence in their democracy. In this, Putin was spectacularly successful. We now have one side of the aisle doubting the integrity of the FBI and the Justice Department. The other side is convinced that the Russians helped elect Trump and thus Trump is an illegitimate President.

......................................................................................................................

*The Russians have been interfering for a long time. See the stories they planted in the NYT by Commie sympathizer Walter Duranty.

Also, it should be pointed out that America has been interfering in other People's politics. Ask Netanyahu. Wouldn't it be nice if the Israelis indict oBUMa administration officials for interfering in the Israeli elections? The Americans also interfered with Singapore politics years ago which led to a rare spat.

So everybody is doing it. This whole Trump-Putin collusion caper is a much ado about nothing. Get back to work America to fix your problems.
Trump has called it a hoax many times.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/11-times-presi ... d=50809892

And for written quotes.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/trump-h ... today.html

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Re: Russia meddled in U.S. election: George W. Bush

Post by Doc » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:23 pm

neverfail wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:39 pm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pol ... ff0b9f79c2

Yeah, and do you know what? The Pope is a Catholic and the Grand Mufti a Muslim? What else is new?
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Post by Doc » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:25 pm

Milo wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:27 pm
cassowary wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:56 pm
Nobody said Russian interference was a hoax. * What was a hoax was that Trump colluded with the Russians. In fact, through Steele's Russian informers, it was Clinton who colluded with the Russians.

Those informers of Christopher Steele were likely to be FSB (formerly called KGB). Putin was helping both sides to shake American confidence in their democracy. In this, Putin was spectacularly successful. We now have one side of the aisle doubting the integrity of the FBI and the Justice Department. The other side is convinced that the Russians helped elect Trump and thus Trump is an illegitimate President.

......................................................................................................................

*The Russians have been interfering for a long time. See the stories they planted in the NYT by Commie sympathizer Walter Duranty.

Also, it should be pointed out that America has been interfering in other People's politics. Ask Netanyahu. Wouldn't it be nice if the Israelis indict oBUMa administration officials for interfering in the Israeli elections? The Americans also interfered with Singapore politics years ago which led to a rare spat.

So everybody is doing it. This whole Trump-Putin collusion caper is a much ado about nothing. Get back to work America to fix your problems.
Trump has called it a hoax many times.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/11-times-presi ... d=50809892

And for written quotes.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/trump-h ... today.html
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Re: Russia meddled in U.S. election: George W. Bush

Post by Milo » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:42 pm

Doc wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:25 pm
Milo wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:27 pm
cassowary wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:56 pm
Nobody said Russian interference was a hoax. * What was a hoax was that Trump colluded with the Russians. In fact, through Steele's Russian informers, it was Clinton who colluded with the Russians.

Those informers of Christopher Steele were likely to be FSB (formerly called KGB). Putin was helping both sides to shake American confidence in their democracy. In this, Putin was spectacularly successful. We now have one side of the aisle doubting the integrity of the FBI and the Justice Department. The other side is convinced that the Russians helped elect Trump and thus Trump is an illegitimate President.

......................................................................................................................

*The Russians have been interfering for a long time. See the stories they planted in the NYT by Commie sympathizer Walter Duranty.

Also, it should be pointed out that America has been interfering in other People's politics. Ask Netanyahu. Wouldn't it be nice if the Israelis indict oBUMa administration officials for interfering in the Israeli elections? The Americans also interfered with Singapore politics years ago which led to a rare spat.

So everybody is doing it. This whole Trump-Putin collusion caper is a much ado about nothing. Get back to work America to fix your problems.
Trump has called it a hoax many times.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/11-times-presi ... d=50809892

And for written quotes.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/trump-h ... today.html
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So, you still disagree with Trump?

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Re: Russia meddled in U.S. election: George W. Bush

Post by Doc » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:00 am

Milo wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:42 pm
Doc wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:25 pm
Milo wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:27 pm
cassowary wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:56 pm
Nobody said Russian interference was a hoax. * What was a hoax was that Trump colluded with the Russians. In fact, through Steele's Russian informers, it was Clinton who colluded with the Russians.

Those informers of Christopher Steele were likely to be FSB (formerly called KGB). Putin was helping both sides to shake American confidence in their democracy. In this, Putin was spectacularly successful. We now have one side of the aisle doubting the integrity of the FBI and the Justice Department. The other side is convinced that the Russians helped elect Trump and thus Trump is an illegitimate President.

......................................................................................................................

*The Russians have been interfering for a long time. See the stories they planted in the NYT by Commie sympathizer Walter Duranty.

Also, it should be pointed out that America has been interfering in other People's politics. Ask Netanyahu. Wouldn't it be nice if the Israelis indict oBUMa administration officials for interfering in the Israeli elections? The Americans also interfered with Singapore politics years ago which led to a rare spat.

So everybody is doing it. This whole Trump-Putin collusion caper is a much ado about nothing. Get back to work America to fix your problems.
Trump has called it a hoax many times.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/11-times-presi ... d=50809892

And for written quotes.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/trump-h ... today.html
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So, you still disagree with Trump?
I agree with truth. You?
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Re: Russia meddled in U.S. election: George W. Bush

Post by cassowary » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:54 am

Milo wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:27 pm


Trump has called it a hoax many times.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/11-times-presi ... d=50809892

And for written quotes.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/trump-h ... today.html
Yes, he did. But what he meant was that the story that he colluded with them was a hoax. It is not that they did not interfere with US politics. They have been doing that for the past 70 years.

In the recent indictments, Asst AG Rod Rosenstein said that it did not affect the outcome.

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Post by Milo » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:54 am

cassowary wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:54 am
Milo wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:27 pm


Trump has called it a hoax many times.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/11-times-presi ... d=50809892

And for written quotes.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/trump-h ... today.html
Yes, he did. But what he meant was that the story that he colluded with them was a hoax. It is not that they did not interfere with US politics. They have been doing that for the past 70 years.

In the recent indictments, Asst AG Rod Rosenstein said that it did not affect the outcome.
Well I doubt that's a quote.

This isn't over.

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