Ukraine pushes Russians back from Kharkiv towards the border

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Re: Ukraine has won the battle of Kharkiv

Post by Sertorio » Sat May 14, 2022 6:50 am

neverfail wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 3:29 am
cassowary wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 1:46 am ... s-liveblog
Ukraine appears to have ‘won the Battle of Kharkiv’: IOW
The Institute for the Study of War (IOW) says it appears that Ukraine has “won the Battle of Kharkiv”, with evidence suggesting Russia has “likely decided” to withdraw fully from its positions around the city because of the strength of Ukrainian counterattacks and a lack of reinforcements.
Winning one battle does not mean that Ukraine has won the war. Putin still has plenty of cannon fodder left.

Considering the amount of damage already done to the Ukraine by the invasion, after the war ends (who knows how many years that will take) the sheer cost of replacing the destroyed infrastructure is bound to be horrendous: way beyond the capacity of the country's meager fiscal resources to fund.

Meantime, since the war is taking place on Ukrainian soil Russia's will remain intact.
I'm sure the American producers of weapons will be delighted to help those who have been such an enormous source of profits... :D

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The Ukraine is Winning

Post by Sertorio » Sat May 14, 2022 11:04 am

If Ukraine Is Winning Why Is The U.S. Requesting A Ceasefire? ... .html#more

Yesterday the U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin called the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergei Shoigu.


The U.S. readout of the call says:

On May 13, Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III spoke with Russian Minister of Defense Sergey Shoygu for the first time since February 18. Secretary Austin urged an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine and emphasized the importance of maintaining lines of communication.

Austin initiated the call and the U.S. is seeking a ceasefire in Ukraine!!!

Are we not told that the Ukraine is winning the war? That it will soon push the Russian forces back over the border? The operation to 'weaken Russia', which Austin had publicly announced two weeks ago, does not seem to go that well.

Told ya so!

Gonzalo Lira thinks that the call points to a soon coming collapse of the Ukrainian forces. Let us hope that this is indeed the case because it seems to be the only chance that the war will end soon.

The Ukraine is losing up to 15,000 men per month to the war. The total Ukrainian casualties, dead and wounded, are likely already at 50,000. The weapons the U.S. and others provide, are not sufficient to sustain the war. The Ukraine has only 3 days reserves of diesel and gasoline left. The main parts of its forces are immobile and are getting surrounded by Russian forces. Their situation is hopeless.

The Pentagon of course knows this all and that is why Austin initiated the call and asked for a ceasefire.

The Russia side will not agree to a ceasefire. At least not unless the 'west' offers to take back some of the 6,400 sanction measures it has initiated against Russia.
When will Zelensky realize he was tricked by the US?... Once the war is over the Ukrainians themselves will put him on trial for treason...

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Re: Ukraine pushes Russians back from Kharkiv towards the border

Post by Sertorio » Sat May 14, 2022 11:19 am

Why Did Lloyd Austin Call Sergei Shoigu?

That's the way it is, but none of you is capable of accepting it...

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Re: Ukraine pushes Russians back from Kharkiv towards the border

Post by Doc » Sat May 14, 2022 2:14 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 1:31 pm
Doc wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 11:25 am
Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 10:29 am
cassowary wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 9:50 am
Milo wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 6:56 am
cassowary wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 1:54 am

I think my arguments are really first class. You usually don't have a good reply.
Nothing like a constant stream of ad hominems to demonstrate maturity!
Exactly. I get a lot of ad hominems from Sertorio. But I don’t mind. I take it that he can’t think of a rebuttal. That means I won the argument.
Saying that your reasoning is first-grade level is not ad hominem. It's a statement of fact. You do not seem to be mature enough to see the difference between fact and fantasy, and that's why you say the strangest things about China, Russia and the US. China is an amazing civilization and the Chinese are among the brightest people on our planet, but you speak of them and their willingness to live in their present system as if they were not capable of making their own reasoned decisions. You also speak of Russians as if they were forced to put up with Putin, against their wishes, ignoring the fact that over 80% of people approve of Putin, and that Russians live now better than they ever lived throughout their long history. In your arrogance you think that you know better than those people how they should live and under what political regime. Do you actually think that you are smarter than the average Chinese or Russian? Well, you are not, and you make that manifest to all of us with every post of yours. A bit humility would be in place for you...
Sertorio did you ever consider you may have been transported to a parallel universe?
So, in your opinion, Russians and Chinese do not live now better than ever before, and therefore it is unlikely they are satisfied with their respective governments... I wonder who lives in a parallel universe...
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AND who needs a stinkin economy !!

Russians party like its 1992 !!

Its a Multiverse !!!

“"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros

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