Russia's Oil Output Is Plummeting.....

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Re: Russia's Oil Output Is Plummeting.....

Post by neverfail » Fri May 06, 2022 3:38 am

Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 3:21 am
neverfail wrote:
Thu May 05, 2022 7:44 pm

Russia stands head and shoulders above Ukraine as a military power. I am surprised that Ukraine has done as well as it has so far as the war is very much a David-versus-Goliath sort of scenario. Yet there is no guarantee that in this conflict gallant little David will win.
Mariupol was an exception, with Russia showing that it could take any major Ukrainian city it wanted.
So tell us all about their ignominious withdrawal from the vicinity of Kyiv Sertorio; And no whitewash on behalf of Mr. Putin please. :)

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Re: Russia's Oil Output Is Plummeting.....

Post by Sertorio » Fri May 06, 2022 3:49 am

neverfail wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 3:38 am
Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 3:21 am
neverfail wrote:
Thu May 05, 2022 7:44 pm

Russia stands head and shoulders above Ukraine as a military power. I am surprised that Ukraine has done as well as it has so far as the war is very much a David-versus-Goliath sort of scenario. Yet there is no guarantee that in this conflict gallant little David will win.
Mariupol was an exception, with Russia showing that it could take any major Ukrainian city it wanted.
So tell us all about their ignominious withdrawal from the vicinity of Kyiv Sertorio; And no whitewash on behalf of Mr. Putin please. :)
Kiev was never meant to be taken. The objective was pinning down Ukrainian forces which might otherwise be moved east. Once the Russian troops had consolidated their hold on the south and east, units could be moved from the Kiev area. Meanwhile enough Russian troops were kept north of the border so that if the Ukraine decided to move troops eastwards a new attack could be made on Kiev. That threat is enough to make sure that troops will not go to reinforce the besieged troops in the Donbass. Meanwhile bridges and railroads are being destroyed, to make sure no reinforcements can be sent to the Donbass. Underestimating the Russian high command is a mistake you and the Pentagon seem to be making, but that doesn't mean the Russians do not know what they are doing.

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Re: Russia's Oil Output Is Plummeting.....

Post by neverfail » Fri May 06, 2022 3:23 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 3:49 am
neverfail wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 3:38 am
Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 3:21 am
neverfail wrote:
Thu May 05, 2022 7:44 pm

Russia stands head and shoulders above Ukraine as a military power. I am surprised that Ukraine has done as well as it has so far as the war is very much a David-versus-Goliath sort of scenario. Yet there is no guarantee that in this conflict gallant little David will win.
Mariupol was an exception, with Russia showing that it could take any major Ukrainian city it wanted.
So tell us all about their ignominious withdrawal from the vicinity of Kyiv Sertorio; And no whitewash on behalf of Mr. Putin please. :)
Kiev was never meant to be taken. The objective was pinning down Ukrainian forces which might otherwise be moved east. Once the Russian troops had consolidated their hold on the south and east, units could be moved from the Kiev area. Meanwhile enough Russian troops were kept north of the border so that if the Ukraine decided to move troops eastwards a new attack could be made on Kiev. That threat is enough to make sure that troops will not go to reinforce the besieged troops in the Donbass. Meanwhile bridges and railroads are being destroyed, to make sure no reinforcements can be sent to the Donbass. Underestimating the Russian high command is a mistake you and the Pentagon seem to be making, but that doesn't mean the Russians do not know what they are doing.
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Re: Russia's Oil Output Is Plummeting.....

Post by SteveFoerster » Fri May 06, 2022 6:32 pm

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Kiev was never meant to be taken. The objective was pinning down Ukrainian forces which might otherwise be moved east. Once the Russian troops had consolidated their hold on the south and east, units could be moved from the Kiev area.
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Re: Russia's Oil Output Is Plummeting.....

Post by cassowary » Fri May 06, 2022 8:13 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 3:49 am
neverfail wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 3:38 am
Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 3:21 am
neverfail wrote:
Thu May 05, 2022 7:44 pm

Russia stands head and shoulders above Ukraine as a military power. I am surprised that Ukraine has done as well as it has so far as the war is very much a David-versus-Goliath sort of scenario. Yet there is no guarantee that in this conflict gallant little David will win.
Mariupol was an exception, with Russia showing that it could take any major Ukrainian city it wanted.
So tell us all about their ignominious withdrawal from the vicinity of Kyiv Sertorio; And no whitewash on behalf of Mr. Putin please. :)
Kiev was never meant to be taken. The objective was pinning down Ukrainian forces which might otherwise be moved east. Once the Russian troops had consolidated their hold on the south and east, units could be moved from the Kiev area. Meanwhile enough Russian troops were kept north of the border so that if the Ukraine decided to move troops eastwards a new attack could be made on Kiev. That threat is enough to make sure that troops will not go to reinforce the besieged troops in the Donbass. Meanwhile bridges and railroads are being destroyed, to make sure no reinforcements can be sent to the Donbass. Underestimating the Russian high command is a mistake you and the Pentagon seem to be making, but that doesn't mean the Russians do not know what they are doing.
Balderdash.

The truth is the opposite. Russia thought that Kiev could fall within a short time. So they attacked Kyiv. But the brave Ukrainians put up a staunch defence. After suffering heavy losses, the Russians changed strategy and decided to focus on the Donbas.
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Re: Russia's Oil Output Is Plummeting.....

Post by Sertorio » Sat May 07, 2022 2:37 am

You are either too ignorant or too blind to understand what is happening in the Ukraine. Your eagerness to defeat Russia is so great that it prevents you using your judgement. Any lie, any absurdity is acceptable, as long as it allows you to keep your fantasies... I wonder how you are going to react once you realize that everything you believe, everything you say, is a lie. Not that you want to deliberately lie, but you simply are not in state to face the truth...

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Re: Russia's Oil Output Is Plummeting.....

Post by neverfail » Sat May 07, 2022 4:30 am

cassowary wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 8:13 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 3:49 am


Kiev was never meant to be taken. The objective was pinning down Ukrainian forces which might otherwise be moved east. Once the Russian troops had consolidated their hold on the south and east, units could be moved from the Kiev area. Meanwhile enough Russian troops were kept north of the border so that if the Ukraine decided to move troops eastwards a new attack could be made on Kiev. That threat is enough to make sure that troops will not go to reinforce the besieged troops in the Donbass. Meanwhile bridges and railroads are being destroyed, to make sure no reinforcements can be sent to the Donbass. Underestimating the Russian high command is a mistake you and the Pentagon seem to be making, but that doesn't mean the Russians do not know what they are doing.
Balderdash.

The truth is the opposite. Russia thought that Kiev could fall within a short time. So they attacked Kyiv. But the brave Ukrainians put up a staunch defence. After suffering heavy losses, the Russians changed strategy and decided to focus on the Donbas.
Yes, the Russian army knew from past experience that taking a large, congested population centre like Kyiv is costly in terms of the huge number of casualties suffered in addition to the formidable defenses that I believe the Ukrainians has ringed their capital city with. Someone persuasive within Putin's inner circle must have convinced the psychopath that the cost would be too high and the consolation prize of the two Russophile pseudo-republics in the east were "softer targets".

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Re: Russia's Oil Output Is Plummeting.....

Post by Sertorio » Sat May 07, 2022 5:09 am

neverfail wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 4:30 am
cassowary wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 8:13 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 3:49 am


Kiev was never meant to be taken. The objective was pinning down Ukrainian forces which might otherwise be moved east. Once the Russian troops had consolidated their hold on the south and east, units could be moved from the Kiev area. Meanwhile enough Russian troops were kept north of the border so that if the Ukraine decided to move troops eastwards a new attack could be made on Kiev. That threat is enough to make sure that troops will not go to reinforce the besieged troops in the Donbass. Meanwhile bridges and railroads are being destroyed, to make sure no reinforcements can be sent to the Donbass. Underestimating the Russian high command is a mistake you and the Pentagon seem to be making, but that doesn't mean the Russians do not know what they are doing.
Balderdash.

The truth is the opposite. Russia thought that Kiev could fall within a short time. So they attacked Kyiv. But the brave Ukrainians put up a staunch defence. After suffering heavy losses, the Russians changed strategy and decided to focus on the Donbas.
Yes, the Russian army knew from past experience that taking a large, congested population centre like Kyiv is costly in terms of the huge number of casualties suffered in addition to the formidable defenses that I believe the Ukrainians has ringed their capital city with. Someone persuasive within Putin's inner circle must have convinced the psychopath that the cost would be too high and the consolation prize of the two Russophile pseudo-republics in the east were "softer targets".
Anyone using this expression in respect of Putin is definitely more of a psychopath than Putin could ever be. It also makes it impossible to even beginning to understand what is going on in the Ukraine. Congratulations on excluding yourself from any intelligent discussion on such matter.

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Re: Russia's Oil Output Is Plummeting.....

Post by cassowary » Sat May 07, 2022 8:47 am

Sertorio wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 5:09 am
neverfail wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 4:30 am
cassowary wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 8:13 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 3:49 am


Kiev was never meant to be taken. The objective was pinning down Ukrainian forces which might otherwise be moved east. Once the Russian troops had consolidated their hold on the south and east, units could be moved from the Kiev area. Meanwhile enough Russian troops were kept north of the border so that if the Ukraine decided to move troops eastwards a new attack could be made on Kiev. That threat is enough to make sure that troops will not go to reinforce the besieged troops in the Donbass. Meanwhile bridges and railroads are being destroyed, to make sure no reinforcements can be sent to the Donbass. Underestimating the Russian high command is a mistake you and the Pentagon seem to be making, but that doesn't mean the Russians do not know what they are doing.
Balderdash.

The truth is the opposite. Russia thought that Kiev could fall within a short time. So they attacked Kyiv. But the brave Ukrainians put up a staunch defence. After suffering heavy losses, the Russians changed strategy and decided to focus on the Donbas.
Yes, the Russian army knew from past experience that taking a large, congested population centre like Kyiv is costly in terms of the huge number of casualties suffered in addition to the formidable defenses that I believe the Ukrainians has ringed their capital city with. Someone persuasive within Putin's inner circle must have convinced the psychopath that the cost would be too high and the consolation prize of the two Russophile pseudo-republics in the east were "softer targets".
Anyone using this expression in respect of Putin is definitely more of a psychopath than Putin could ever be. It also makes it impossible to even beginning to understand what is going on in the Ukraine. Congratulations on excluding yourself from any intelligent discussion on such matter.
But Neverfail is right. Putin is a psychopath.
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Re: Russia's Oil Output Is Plummeting.....

Post by Sertorio » Sat May 07, 2022 9:53 am

cassowary wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 8:47 am
Sertorio wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 5:09 am
neverfail wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 4:30 am
cassowary wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 8:13 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 3:49 am


Kiev was never meant to be taken. The objective was pinning down Ukrainian forces which might otherwise be moved east. Once the Russian troops had consolidated their hold on the south and east, units could be moved from the Kiev area. Meanwhile enough Russian troops were kept north of the border so that if the Ukraine decided to move troops eastwards a new attack could be made on Kiev. That threat is enough to make sure that troops will not go to reinforce the besieged troops in the Donbass. Meanwhile bridges and railroads are being destroyed, to make sure no reinforcements can be sent to the Donbass. Underestimating the Russian high command is a mistake you and the Pentagon seem to be making, but that doesn't mean the Russians do not know what they are doing.
Balderdash.

The truth is the opposite. Russia thought that Kiev could fall within a short time. So they attacked Kyiv. But the brave Ukrainians put up a staunch defence. After suffering heavy losses, the Russians changed strategy and decided to focus on the Donbas.
Yes, the Russian army knew from past experience that taking a large, congested population centre like Kyiv is costly in terms of the huge number of casualties suffered in addition to the formidable defenses that I believe the Ukrainians has ringed their capital city with. Someone persuasive within Putin's inner circle must have convinced the psychopath that the cost would be too high and the consolation prize of the two Russophile pseudo-republics in the east were "softer targets".
Anyone using this expression in respect of Putin is definitely more of a psychopath than Putin could ever be. It also makes it impossible to even beginning to understand what is going on in the Ukraine. Congratulations on excluding yourself from any intelligent discussion on such matter.
But Neverfail is right. Putin is a psychopath.
You, like so many others here, are not psychologically capable of handling the truth in respect of the Ukrainian conflict. You are in permanent self-denial and will need psychiatric help once you realize everything you believed was a lie.

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