EU stonewalling Turkey

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Jim the Moron
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EU stonewalling Turkey

Post by Jim the Moron » Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:15 am

"Turkey 'tired' of EU membership process"
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/01/e ... 14481.html

Erdogan needs to stop whining and play his ace-in-the-hole - he needs to point out that Europe is not far from becoming an Islamic continent, whereupon Turkey will fit in quite nicely.

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Re: EU stonewalling Turkey

Post by Sertorio » Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:25 am

Jim the Moron wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:15 am
"Turkey 'tired' of EU membership process"
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/01/e ... 14481.html

Erdogan needs to stop whining and play his ace-in-the-hole - he needs to point out that Europe is not far from becoming an Islamic continent, whereupon Turkey will fit in quite nicely.
Nonsense. Erdogan's ace-in-the-hole is the threat of leaving NATO...

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Re: EU stonewalling Turkey

Post by Jim the Moron » Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:31 am

Sertorio wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:25 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:15 am
"Turkey 'tired' of EU membership process"
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/01/e ... 14481.html

Erdogan needs to stop whining and play his ace-in-the-hole - he needs to point out that Europe is not far from becoming an Islamic continent, whereupon Turkey will fit in quite nicely.
Nonsense. Erdogan's ace-in-the-hole is the threat of leaving NATO...
And what would be the negative consequences of that?

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Re: EU stonewalling Turkey

Post by neverfail » Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:54 am

Let Turkey go where it will - including to hell.

Not worth keeping in NATO and will never be a contributor to Europe's strength.

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Re: EU stonewalling Turkey

Post by Sertorio » Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:45 pm

Jim the Moron wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:31 am
Sertorio wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:25 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:15 am
"Turkey 'tired' of EU membership process"
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/01/e ... 14481.html

Erdogan needs to stop whining and play his ace-in-the-hole - he needs to point out that Europe is not far from becoming an Islamic continent, whereupon Turkey will fit in quite nicely.
Nonsense. Erdogan's ace-in-the-hole is the threat of leaving NATO...
And what would be the negative consequences of that?
To me, none whatsoever. But NATO would be badly shaken if a major member state decides to leave. And the south flank of Russia's encirclement would disappear...

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Re: EU stonewalling Turkey

Post by Jim the Moron » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:34 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:45 pm
Jim the Moron wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:31 am
Sertorio wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:25 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:15 am
"Turkey 'tired' of EU membership process"
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/01/e ... 14481.html

Erdogan needs to stop whining and play his ace-in-the-hole - he needs to point out that Europe is not far from becoming an Islamic continent, whereupon Turkey will fit in quite nicely.
Nonsense. Erdogan's ace-in-the-hole is the threat of leaving NATO...
And what would be the negative consequences of that?
To me, none whatsoever. But NATO would be badly shaken if a major member state decides to leave. And the south flank of Russia's encirclement would disappear...
Agree that there would be no negative consequences. And I'll bet that the majority of NATO member states would be quietly pleased to see the departure of an unstable, untrustworthy Islamic Turkey.

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Re: EU stonewalling Turkey

Post by neverfail » Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:08 pm

Turkey's NATO membership should not be regarded as a credential entitling it to EU membership - regardless of how much the US government pushes for it to be included.

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Re: EU stonewalling Turkey

Post by Milo » Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:29 pm

neverfail wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:54 am
Let Turkey go where it will - including to hell.

Not worth keeping in NATO and will never be a contributor to Europe's strength.
Yes.

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Re: EU stonewalling Turkey

Post by SteveFoerster » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:19 am

Sertorio wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:45 pm
To me, none whatsoever. But NATO would be badly shaken if a major member state decides to leave. And the south flank of Russia's encirclement would disappear...
If Russia were "encircled" by Turkey, then Russian forces wouldn't be able to be in Syria. And whether Turkey is in NATO or not, they can still defend themselves, as when they recently shot down a Russian fighter jet trespassing in their airspace.
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Re: EU stonewalling Turkey

Post by cassowary » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:27 am

Sertorio wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:45 pm

To me, none whatsoever. But NATO would be badly shaken if a major member state decides to leave. And the south flank of Russia's encirclement would disappear...
NATO has no intention to encircle Russia. Instead, it is Russia that is a threat to peace, as can be seen by its false flag invasion of E Ukraine.

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