Russia’s vaccine disinformation has let down its own people

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Russia’s vaccine disinformation has let down its own people

Post by neverfail » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:56 am

Poor handling has intensified an enduring distrust of state authorities

https://www.ft.com/content/dcf6e11c-28f ... 1d4825da8a

Vladimir Putin is a notable absentee from the COP26 summit, as Russia battles record daily Covid deaths. A one-week workplace shutdown the president has approved until November 7 is the closest to a full lockdown Russia has come since early in the pandemic. There is a sad irony here. Despite developing one of the first vaccines, Russia has among the lowest uptakes of any large economy and, Financial Times analysis suggests, one of the highest excess death rates. Its fate reflects official mishandling, popular distrust — and disinformation efforts that backfired by knocking confidence in jabs and fuelled conspiracy theories.

Comparing mortality data with historical trends, FT analysis suggests Russia recorded 753,000 excess deaths during the pandemic to the end of September. That is second only to the US in absolute terms, and third after Peru and Bulgaria on a per capita basis.
In the USA Donald Trump had to sow public mistrust of anti-Covid vacinations especially within his own voter support base but In Russia Putin was apparently able to acheive the same outcome without lifting a finger or uttering a single syllable. :oops: That takes talent.

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Re: Russia’s vaccine disinformation has let down its own people

Post by Sertorio » Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:36 am

neverfail wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:56 am
Poor handling has intensified an enduring distrust of state authorities

https://www.ft.com/content/dcf6e11c-28f ... 1d4825da8a

Vladimir Putin is a notable absentee from the COP26 summit, as Russia battles record daily Covid deaths. A one-week workplace shutdown the president has approved until November 7 is the closest to a full lockdown Russia has come since early in the pandemic. There is a sad irony here. Despite developing one of the first vaccines, Russia has among the lowest uptakes of any large economy and, Financial Times analysis suggests, one of the highest excess death rates. Its fate reflects official mishandling, popular distrust — and disinformation efforts that backfired by knocking confidence in jabs and fuelled conspiracy theories.

Comparing mortality data with historical trends, FT analysis suggests Russia recorded 753,000 excess deaths during the pandemic to the end of September. That is second only to the US in absolute terms, and third after Peru and Bulgaria on a per capita basis.
In the USA Donald Trump had to sow public mistrust of anti-Covid vacinations especially within his own voter support base but In Russia Putin was apparently able to acheive the same outcome without lifting a finger or uttering a single syllable. :oops: That takes talent.
What does take "talent" is writing a comment like that...

You may think that Putin should have imposed the vaccine on everybody, but I suspect that had he done that, you would be telling us about Putin's authoritarianism... :P

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Re: Russia’s vaccine disinformation has let down its own people

Post by Milo » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:54 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:36 am
neverfail wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:56 am
Poor handling has intensified an enduring distrust of state authorities

https://www.ft.com/content/dcf6e11c-28f ... 1d4825da8a

Vladimir Putin is a notable absentee from the COP26 summit, as Russia battles record daily Covid deaths. A one-week workplace shutdown the president has approved until November 7 is the closest to a full lockdown Russia has come since early in the pandemic. There is a sad irony here. Despite developing one of the first vaccines, Russia has among the lowest uptakes of any large economy and, Financial Times analysis suggests, one of the highest excess death rates. Its fate reflects official mishandling, popular distrust — and disinformation efforts that backfired by knocking confidence in jabs and fuelled conspiracy theories.

Comparing mortality data with historical trends, FT analysis suggests Russia recorded 753,000 excess deaths during the pandemic to the end of September. That is second only to the US in absolute terms, and third after Peru and Bulgaria on a per capita basis.
In the USA Donald Trump had to sow public mistrust of anti-Covid vacinations especially within his own voter support base but In Russia Putin was apparently able to acheive the same outcome without lifting a finger or uttering a single syllable. :oops: That takes talent.
What does take "talent" is writing a comment like that...

You may think that Putin should have imposed the vaccine on everybody, but I suspect that had he done that, you would be telling us about Putin's authoritarianism... :P
Also, their vaccine sucks.

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Re: Russia’s vaccine disinformation has let down its own people

Post by Sertorio » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:07 pm

Milo wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:54 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:36 am
neverfail wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:56 am
Poor handling has intensified an enduring distrust of state authorities

https://www.ft.com/content/dcf6e11c-28f ... 1d4825da8a

Vladimir Putin is a notable absentee from the COP26 summit, as Russia battles record daily Covid deaths. A one-week workplace shutdown the president has approved until November 7 is the closest to a full lockdown Russia has come since early in the pandemic. There is a sad irony here. Despite developing one of the first vaccines, Russia has among the lowest uptakes of any large economy and, Financial Times analysis suggests, one of the highest excess death rates. Its fate reflects official mishandling, popular distrust — and disinformation efforts that backfired by knocking confidence in jabs and fuelled conspiracy theories.

Comparing mortality data with historical trends, FT analysis suggests Russia recorded 753,000 excess deaths during the pandemic to the end of September. That is second only to the US in absolute terms, and third after Peru and Bulgaria on a per capita basis.
In the USA Donald Trump had to sow public mistrust of anti-Covid vacinations especially within his own voter support base but In Russia Putin was apparently able to acheive the same outcome without lifting a finger or uttering a single syllable. :oops: That takes talent.
What does take "talent" is writing a comment like that...

You may think that Putin should have imposed the vaccine on everybody, but I suspect that had he done that, you would be telling us about Putin's authoritarianism... :P
Also, their vaccine sucks.
The Lancet doesn't think so...

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Re: Russia’s vaccine disinformation has let down its own people

Post by neverfail » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:33 am

It is not just in Russia. The mistrust of authority is rife in the former USSR satellite states in eastern Europe as well:
https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/why-w ... accinated/

In recent weeks, as Europe has again become the global epicentre of the Covid-19 pandemic, the surge in coronavirus cases, hospitalisations and deaths has highlighted the continued vaccine hesitancy of one group of Europeans in particular: those in the formerly communist east. While 75.6% of European Union citizens are fully vaccinated, the share in Bulgaria is 26.2% and it’s 39.6% in Romania. In countries outside the EU, the numbers are even bleaker. Only 20.2% of Ukraine’s population, and 36.3% of Russia’s, are fully vaccinated.

What is wrong with Eastern Europe? In short, mis- and disinformation. The region is awash in it, a legacy of the breakdown of public trust in governmental institutions after communism. Feverish conspiracy theories have gripped these countries like the coronavirus’s shadow.

A Ukrainian doctor recently summed up the situation in her country: ‘Fake stories have spread widely, making people believe in microchips and genetic mutations … Some Orthodox priests have openly and aggressively urged people not to get vaccinated, and social networks have been filled with the most absurd rumors. Ukrainians have learned to distrust any authorities’ initiatives, and vaccination isn’t an [exception].’
Marxist-Leninism has left a truly toxic legacy in all of the countries that were in thrall to it. It is highly likely that it will take generations; not years or even decades, for these countries to outgrow its effects.

Meantime, their shrinking and ageing populations combined with high death rates from Covid, are likley to empty these countries demographically before it can happen.

A bleak future?

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Re: Russia’s vaccine disinformation has let down its own people

Post by SteveFoerster » Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:40 am

I didn't realise the Russians developed their own vaccine. I was only aware of the Chinese one, which is objectively inferior to the three from the West.
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Re: Russia’s vaccine disinformation has let down its own people

Post by neverfail » Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:25 pm

SteveFoerster wrote:
Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:40 am
I didn't realise the Russians developed their own vaccine. I was only aware of the Chinese one, which is objectively inferior to the three from the West.
Yes, it is true. This Russian serum even received a tick of approval from the British medical journal, The Lancet (just as Sertorio suggested).

Unfortunately, the serum is facing massive "buyer resistance" from the Russian public. Russians do not want to use it.

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