China's self-inflicted energy shortage.

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China's self-inflicted energy shortage.

Post by neverfail » Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:37 am

China plunges into self-inflicted darkness

China's spreading and debilitating power crunch is rooted largely in a trade war with Australia that has depleted coal supplies

https://asiatimes.com/2021/09/china-plu ... -darkness/
To say that china and Australia are immersed in a "trade war" is misleading. It suggests that both sides are directing blows on the trade front and are therefore equally guilty. Wrong! So far all of the bans and boycotts have flowed in one direction only: in the form of PRc embargos on Australian exports to China. So what has Australia done to China to invite such reprisals? this:
In October last year, China implemented a ban on Australian coal imports after Canberra called for an international investigation into the origin of the Covid-19 pandemic.
The majority of member states in the United Nations general assembly supported the Australian bid for the world Health Organisation investigation so clearly most of the World wanted answers from China as well. The Chinese Communist Party is unused to being called to account and it's premier Xi Jinpeng (a notoriousky prickly character) took exception. So the reprisals on Australian trade are a naked attempt to inflict harm on Australia in retaliation. We can't have China or its ruling clique losing face can we? That would be very un-Chinese.

In the form of the resultant coal shortages and electric power cuts China is reaping the whirlwind now that their ruling party has sown the wind.

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Re: China's self-inflicted energy shortage.

Post by cassowary » Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:54 am

neverfail wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:37 am
China plunges into self-inflicted darkness

China's spreading and debilitating power crunch is rooted largely in a trade war with Australia that has depleted coal supplies

https://asiatimes.com/2021/09/china-plu ... -darkness/
To say that china and Australia are immersed in a "trade war" is misleading. It suggests that both sides are directing blows on the trade front and are therefore equally guilty. Wrong! So far all of the bans and boycotts have flowed in one direction only: in the form of PRc embargos on Australian exports to China. So what has Australia done to China to invite such reprisals? this:
In October last year, China implemented a ban on Australian coal imports after Canberra called for an international investigation into the origin of the Covid-19 pandemic.
The majority of member states in the United Nations general assembly supported the Australian bid for the world Health Organisation investigation so clearly most of the World wanted answers from China as well. The Chinese Communist Party is unused to being called to account and it's premier Xi Jinpeng (a notoriousky prickly character) took exception. So the reprisals on Australian trade are a naked attempt to inflict harm on Australia in retaliation. We can't have China or its ruling clique losing face can we? That would be very un-Chinese.

In the form of the resultant coal shortages and electric power cuts China is reaping the whirlwind now that their ruling party has sown the wind.
Serves them right. Maybe Chairman Xi is out of touch with reality like Chairman Mao once was. The grain production fell below target but Mao's minions told him the harvest was a success and they had plenty of grain. This led to the death of 50 million Chinese as they starved. So could it be that somebody told Xi what he wanted to hear? "We have plenty of energy, Chairman Xi. We don't need Australian coal. "

First China had the Great Leap Forward. Now it looks like China is having a Great Leap into the Dark.
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Post by Sertorio » Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:38 am

As I mentioned before, on another thread,
China might become the birthplace of a revolution in the atomic energy industry this September as the Chinese Academy of Sciences is planning to fire up an experimental nuclear reactor that uses molten salts as a coolant and thorium for fuel.
Eventually coal will not be used to generate energy, so Australia can keep it and contribute to improving the climate crisis on the planet...

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Post by cassowary » Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:16 am

Sertorio wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:38 am
As I mentioned before, on another thread,
China might become the birthplace of a revolution in the atomic energy industry this September as the Chinese Academy of Sciences is planning to fire up an experimental nuclear reactor that uses molten salts as a coolant and thorium for fuel.
Eventually coal will not be used to generate energy, so Australia can keep it and contribute to improving the climate crisis on the planet...
Meanwhile, winter is coming. If Xi does not get his act together, millions could freeze as price of coal soars in China because he refused to buy cheap Australian coal.
The Imp :D

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Post by neverfail » Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:30 am

cassowary wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:16 am
Sertorio wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:38 am
As I mentioned before, on another thread,
China might become the birthplace of a revolution in the atomic energy industry this September as the Chinese Academy of Sciences is planning to fire up an experimental nuclear reactor that uses molten salts as a coolant and thorium for fuel.
Eventually coal will not be used to generate energy, so Australia can keep it and contribute to improving the climate crisis on the planet...
Meanwhile, winter is coming. If Xi does not get his act together, millions could freeze as price of coal soars in China because he refused to buy cheap Australian coal.
Exactly! "China might become the birthplace of a revolution in the atomic energy industry" That's might, not a certainty. Meantime China still gets around three quarters of its energy from coal and will (not might) need to do so for this coming northern winter as a matter of urgency.

To think that all Xi Jinpeng needs to do to secure that needed Australian coal is to eat humble pie. :D

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Post by cassowary » Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:11 am

neverfail wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:30 am
cassowary wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:16 am
Sertorio wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:38 am
As I mentioned before, on another thread,
China might become the birthplace of a revolution in the atomic energy industry this September as the Chinese Academy of Sciences is planning to fire up an experimental nuclear reactor that uses molten salts as a coolant and thorium for fuel.
Eventually coal will not be used to generate energy, so Australia can keep it and contribute to improving the climate crisis on the planet...
Meanwhile, winter is coming. If Xi does not get his act together, millions could freeze as price of coal soars in China because he refused to buy cheap Australian coal.
Exactly! "China might become the birthplace of a revolution in the atomic energy industry" That's might, not a certainty. Meantime China still gets around three quarters of its energy from coal and will (not might) need to do so for this coming northern winter as a matter of urgency.

To think that all Xi Jinpeng needs to do to secure that needed Australian coal is to eat humble pie. :D
Maybe Xi expects Australia will come begging to him to buy coal. :D

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As I have said here in this forum many times before, the weakness of dictatorships is that the top guy is the last to know the truth as their underlings tell him what he wants to hear.

Thus Mussolini's generals told him what a good job they had done when they showed him thousands of planes. Only they neglected to tell him that half of them could not fly.

Thus Mao's underlings told him the harvests were bountiful and the peasants were well fed when actually they were starving.

Could it be that Xi's underlings are telling him that China has ample energy resources including coal and nobody is going to freeze this winter?
The Imp :D

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Post by Doc » Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:39 am

cassowary wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:11 am
neverfail wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:30 am
cassowary wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:16 am
Sertorio wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:38 am
As I mentioned before, on another thread,
China might become the birthplace of a revolution in the atomic energy industry this September as the Chinese Academy of Sciences is planning to fire up an experimental nuclear reactor that uses molten salts as a coolant and thorium for fuel.
Eventually coal will not be used to generate energy, so Australia can keep it and contribute to improving the climate crisis on the planet...
Meanwhile, winter is coming. If Xi does not get his act together, millions could freeze as price of coal soars in China because he refused to buy cheap Australian coal.
Exactly! "China might become the birthplace of a revolution in the atomic energy industry" That's might, not a certainty. Meantime China still gets around three quarters of its energy from coal and will (not might) need to do so for this coming northern winter as a matter of urgency.

To think that all Xi Jinpeng needs to do to secure that needed Australian coal is to eat humble pie. :D
Maybe Xi expects Australia will come begging to him to buy coal. :D

.....................................................................................................................................

As I have said here in this forum many times before, the weakness of dictatorships is that the top guy is the last to know the truth as their underlings tell him what he wants to hear.

Thus Mussolini's generals told him what a good job they had done when they showed him thousands of planes. Only they neglected to tell him that half of them could not fly.

Thus Mao's underlings told him the harvests were bountiful and the peasants were well fed when actually they were starving.

Could it be that Xi's underlings are telling him that China has ample energy resources including coal and nobody is going to freeze this winter?

On the other hand maybe Xi is jealous of Kim jong un. Whose people "love" him so much they are willing to survive by eating grass rather overthrow the "dear leader."
“"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros

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Re: China's self-inflicted energy shortage.

Post by Sertorio » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:41 am

neverfail wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:30 am
cassowary wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:16 am
Sertorio wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:38 am
As I mentioned before, on another thread,
China might become the birthplace of a revolution in the atomic energy industry this September as the Chinese Academy of Sciences is planning to fire up an experimental nuclear reactor that uses molten salts as a coolant and thorium for fuel.
Eventually coal will not be used to generate energy, so Australia can keep it and contribute to improving the climate crisis on the planet...
Meanwhile, winter is coming. If Xi does not get his act together, millions could freeze as price of coal soars in China because he refused to buy cheap Australian coal.
Exactly! "China might become the birthplace of a revolution in the atomic energy industry" That's might, not a certainty. Meantime China still gets around three quarters of its energy from coal and will (not might) need to do so for this coming northern winter as a matter of urgency.

To think that all Xi Jinpeng needs to do to secure that needed Australian coal is to eat humble pie. :D
Because Australia is the only known source of quality coal... :roll:

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Re: China's self-inflicted energy shortage.

Post by Doc » Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:14 am

Sertorio wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:41 am
neverfail wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:30 am
cassowary wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:16 am
Sertorio wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:38 am
As I mentioned before, on another thread,
China might become the birthplace of a revolution in the atomic energy industry this September as the Chinese Academy of Sciences is planning to fire up an experimental nuclear reactor that uses molten salts as a coolant and thorium for fuel.
Eventually coal will not be used to generate energy, so Australia can keep it and contribute to improving the climate crisis on the planet...
Meanwhile, winter is coming. If Xi does not get his act together, millions could freeze as price of coal soars in China because he refused to buy cheap Australian coal.
Exactly! "China might become the birthplace of a revolution in the atomic energy industry" That's might, not a certainty. Meantime China still gets around three quarters of its energy from coal and will (not might) need to do so for this coming northern winter as a matter of urgency.

To think that all Xi Jinpeng needs to do to secure that needed Australian coal is to eat humble pie. :D
Because Australia is the only known source of quality coal... :roll:
It is the only known source of quality easily obtainable coal that does not pass through the Malacca straights. ;)
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Re: China's self-inflicted energy shortage.

Post by cassowary » Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:29 pm

Doc wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:39 am
cassowary wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:11 am
neverfail wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:30 am
cassowary wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:16 am
Sertorio wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:38 am
As I mentioned before, on another thread,
China might become the birthplace of a revolution in the atomic energy industry this September as the Chinese Academy of Sciences is planning to fire up an experimental nuclear reactor that uses molten salts as a coolant and thorium for fuel.
Eventually coal will not be used to generate energy, so Australia can keep it and contribute to improving the climate crisis on the planet...
Meanwhile, winter is coming. If Xi does not get his act together, millions could freeze as price of coal soars in China because he refused to buy cheap Australian coal.
Exactly! "China might become the birthplace of a revolution in the atomic energy industry" That's might, not a certainty. Meantime China still gets around three quarters of its energy from coal and will (not might) need to do so for this coming northern winter as a matter of urgency.

To think that all Xi Jinpeng needs to do to secure that needed Australian coal is to eat humble pie. :D
Maybe Xi expects Australia will come begging to him to buy coal. :D

.....................................................................................................................................

As I have said here in this forum many times before, the weakness of dictatorships is that the top guy is the last to know the truth as their underlings tell him what he wants to hear.

Thus Mussolini's generals told him what a good job they had done when they showed him thousands of planes. Only they neglected to tell him that half of them could not fly.

Thus Mao's underlings told him the harvests were bountiful and the peasants were well fed when actually they were starving.

Could it be that Xi's underlings are telling him that China has ample energy resources including coal and nobody is going to freeze this winter?

On the other hand maybe Xi is jealous of Kim jong un. Whose people "love" him so much they are willing to survive by eating grass rather overthrow the "dear leader."
Oh yeah. Fatty Kim has a harem of beautiful girls to serve him.
The Imp :D

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