What are the top jobs for the most beautiful women in North Korea?

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Re: What are the top jobs for the most beautiful women in North Korea?

Post by cassowary » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:50 pm

SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:06 pm
cassowary wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:42 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:50 am
cassowary wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:29 am

Also, Napoleon conquered Portugal in 1807. The UK decided to help. But according to you, the UK should not help because the Portuguese should earn their freedom themselves.
Napoleon did not conquer Portugal. The French armies invaded Portugal three times and were three times defeated. With the help of the UK which was fighting Napoleon for its own reasons. It just happened that, at that time, the interests of the UK coincided with the interests of Portugal. Had it not been so and you may be sure that Wellington wouldn't have come to Portugal at all... But you have a Bugs Bunny idea of international relations...
I think without the help of Wellington, Portugal would have lost.
Especially since the French under Napoleon did occupy Portugal for several months in 1807-1808, with its leaders fleeing across the ocean. But thanks to the help of your British allies, they couldn't hold on to it.
But Sertorio argues that if you can't gain freedom all by yourself, you do not deserve freedom.
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Re: What are the top jobs for the most beautiful women in North Korea?

Post by Sertorio » Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:17 am

SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:06 pm
cassowary wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:42 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:50 am
cassowary wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:29 am

Also, Napoleon conquered Portugal in 1807. The UK decided to help. But according to you, the UK should not help because the Portuguese should earn their freedom themselves.
Napoleon did not conquer Portugal. The French armies invaded Portugal three times and were three times defeated. With the help of the UK which was fighting Napoleon for its own reasons. It just happened that, at that time, the interests of the UK coincided with the interests of Portugal. Had it not been so and you may be sure that Wellington wouldn't have come to Portugal at all... But you have a Bugs Bunny idea of international relations...
I think without the help of Wellington, Portugal would have lost.
Especially since the French under Napoleon did occupy Portugal for several months in 1807-1808, with its leaders fleeing across the ocean. But thanks to the help of your British allies, they couldn't hold on to it.
The British weren't fighting the Portuguese war. They were fighting for their very own reasons, but their interest was served by assisting Portugal against the French. If Napoleon had controlled the Iberian Peninsula, the British would have been completely cut out of Europe. Alone, the Portuguese wouldn't have been able to defeat Napoleon, but without the Portuguese army the British would have had a much tougher job. In the various battles of that period, the Portuguese represented about half of the allied army. It is true that the Portuguese army was trained by the British and had a number of British officers, but they integrated very well in the British tactics and their soldiers were as good as the British. The alliance served beautifully the interests of both countries.

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Re: What are the top jobs for the most beautiful women in North Korea?

Post by cassowary » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:15 am

Sertorio wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:17 am
SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:06 pm
cassowary wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:42 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:50 am
cassowary wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:29 am

Also, Napoleon conquered Portugal in 1807. The UK decided to help. But according to you, the UK should not help because the Portuguese should earn their freedom themselves.
Napoleon did not conquer Portugal. The French armies invaded Portugal three times and were three times defeated. With the help of the UK which was fighting Napoleon for its own reasons. It just happened that, at that time, the interests of the UK coincided with the interests of Portugal. Had it not been so and you may be sure that Wellington wouldn't have come to Portugal at all... But you have a Bugs Bunny idea of international relations...
I think without the help of Wellington, Portugal would have lost.
Especially since the French under Napoleon did occupy Portugal for several months in 1807-1808, with its leaders fleeing across the ocean. But thanks to the help of your British allies, they couldn't hold on to it.
The British weren't fighting the Portuguese war. They were fighting for their very own reasons, but their interest was served by assisting Portugal against the French. If Napoleon had controlled the Iberian Peninsula, the British would have been completely cut out of Europe. Alone, the Portuguese wouldn't have been able to defeat Napoleon, but without the Portuguese army the British would have had a much tougher job. In the various battles of that period, the Portuguese represented about half of the allied army. It is true that the Portuguese army was trained by the British and had a number of British officers, but they integrated very well in the British tactics and their soldiers were as good as the British. The alliance served beautifully the interests of both countries.
See Sertorio, it’s ok to receive help to fend off tyrants. The Portuguese deserves to be free.
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Re: What are the top jobs for the most beautiful women in North Korea?

Post by Sertorio » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:41 am

cassowary wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:15 am
Sertorio wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:17 am
SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:06 pm
cassowary wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:42 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:50 am
cassowary wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:29 am

Also, Napoleon conquered Portugal in 1807. The UK decided to help. But according to you, the UK should not help because the Portuguese should earn their freedom themselves.
Napoleon did not conquer Portugal. The French armies invaded Portugal three times and were three times defeated. With the help of the UK which was fighting Napoleon for its own reasons. It just happened that, at that time, the interests of the UK coincided with the interests of Portugal. Had it not been so and you may be sure that Wellington wouldn't have come to Portugal at all... But you have a Bugs Bunny idea of international relations...
I think without the help of Wellington, Portugal would have lost.
Especially since the French under Napoleon did occupy Portugal for several months in 1807-1808, with its leaders fleeing across the ocean. But thanks to the help of your British allies, they couldn't hold on to it.
The British weren't fighting the Portuguese war. They were fighting for their very own reasons, but their interest was served by assisting Portugal against the French. If Napoleon had controlled the Iberian Peninsula, the British would have been completely cut out of Europe. Alone, the Portuguese wouldn't have been able to defeat Napoleon, but without the Portuguese army the British would have had a much tougher job. In the various battles of that period, the Portuguese represented about half of the allied army. It is true that the Portuguese army was trained by the British and had a number of British officers, but they integrated very well in the British tactics and their soldiers were as good as the British. The alliance served beautifully the interests of both countries.
See Sertorio, it’s ok to receive help to fend off tyrants. The Portuguese deserves to be free.
You still do not understand. The Portuguese fought to be free. The fact that they joined forces with the British doesn't change a thing to that fact.

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Re: What are the top jobs for the most beautiful women in North Korea?

Post by cassowary » Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:46 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:41 am
cassowary wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:15 am
Sertorio wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:17 am
SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:06 pm
cassowary wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:42 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:50 am


Napoleon did not conquer Portugal. The French armies invaded Portugal three times and were three times defeated. With the help of the UK which was fighting Napoleon for its own reasons. It just happened that, at that time, the interests of the UK coincided with the interests of Portugal. Had it not been so and you may be sure that Wellington wouldn't have come to Portugal at all... But you have a Bugs Bunny idea of international relations...
I think without the help of Wellington, Portugal would have lost.
Especially since the French under Napoleon did occupy Portugal for several months in 1807-1808, with its leaders fleeing across the ocean. But thanks to the help of your British allies, they couldn't hold on to it.
The British weren't fighting the Portuguese war. They were fighting for their very own reasons, but their interest was served by assisting Portugal against the French. If Napoleon had controlled the Iberian Peninsula, the British would have been completely cut out of Europe. Alone, the Portuguese wouldn't have been able to defeat Napoleon, but without the Portuguese army the British would have had a much tougher job. In the various battles of that period, the Portuguese represented about half of the allied army. It is true that the Portuguese army was trained by the British and had a number of British officers, but they integrated very well in the British tactics and their soldiers were as good as the British. The alliance served beautifully the interests of both countries.
See Sertorio, it’s ok to receive help to fend off tyrants. The Portuguese deserves to be free.
You still do not understand. The Portuguese fought to be free. The fact that they joined forces with the British doesn't change a thing to that fact.
So in that case, the Cubans deserve to be free too. In the Bay of Pigs, the Cuban exiles landed in Cuba to liberate their country from the tyrant, Castro. They expected and deserved US help which never came because Kennedy at the last moment chickened out. Right?

Same analogy as your Portuguese except that the British did not let down the Portuguese.
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Re: What are the top jobs for the most beautiful women in North Korea?

Post by Sertorio » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:53 am

cassowary wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:46 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:41 am
cassowary wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:15 am
Sertorio wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:17 am
SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:06 pm
cassowary wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:42 pm


I think without the help of Wellington, Portugal would have lost.
Especially since the French under Napoleon did occupy Portugal for several months in 1807-1808, with its leaders fleeing across the ocean. But thanks to the help of your British allies, they couldn't hold on to it.
The British weren't fighting the Portuguese war. They were fighting for their very own reasons, but their interest was served by assisting Portugal against the French. If Napoleon had controlled the Iberian Peninsula, the British would have been completely cut out of Europe. Alone, the Portuguese wouldn't have been able to defeat Napoleon, but without the Portuguese army the British would have had a much tougher job. In the various battles of that period, the Portuguese represented about half of the allied army. It is true that the Portuguese army was trained by the British and had a number of British officers, but they integrated very well in the British tactics and their soldiers were as good as the British. The alliance served beautifully the interests of both countries.
See Sertorio, it’s ok to receive help to fend off tyrants. The Portuguese deserves to be free.
You still do not understand. The Portuguese fought to be free. The fact that they joined forces with the British doesn't change a thing to that fact.
So in that case, the Cubans deserve to be free too. In the Bay of Pigs, the Cuban exiles landed in Cuba to liberate their country from the tyrant, Castro. They expected and deserved US help which never came because Kennedy at the last moment chickened out. Right?

Same analogy as your Portuguese except that the British did not let down the Portuguese.
A few Cuban exiles and the CIA are not representative of Cuba. In the early 19th century the British were allied to the legitimate government of Portugal... I guess even you can see the difference... :cry:

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Re: What are the top jobs for the most beautiful women in North Korea?

Post by cassowary » Sat Sep 18, 2021 2:48 am

Sertorio wrote:
Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:53 am
cassowary wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:46 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:41 am
cassowary wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:15 am
Sertorio wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:17 am
SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:06 pm


Especially since the French under Napoleon did occupy Portugal for several months in 1807-1808, with its leaders fleeing across the ocean. But thanks to the help of your British allies, they couldn't hold on to it.
The British weren't fighting the Portuguese war. They were fighting for their very own reasons, but their interest was served by assisting Portugal against the French. If Napoleon had controlled the Iberian Peninsula, the British would have been completely cut out of Europe. Alone, the Portuguese wouldn't have been able to defeat Napoleon, but without the Portuguese army the British would have had a much tougher job. In the various battles of that period, the Portuguese represented about half of the allied army. It is true that the Portuguese army was trained by the British and had a number of British officers, but they integrated very well in the British tactics and their soldiers were as good as the British. The alliance served beautifully the interests of both countries.
See Sertorio, it’s ok to receive help to fend off tyrants. The Portuguese deserves to be free.
You still do not understand. The Portuguese fought to be free. The fact that they joined forces with the British doesn't change a thing to that fact.
So in that case, the Cubans deserve to be free too. In the Bay of Pigs, the Cuban exiles landed in Cuba to liberate their country from the tyrant, Castro. They expected and deserved US help which never came because Kennedy at the last moment chickened out. Right?

Same analogy as your Portuguese except that the British did not let down the Portuguese.
A few Cuban exiles and the CIA are not representative of Cuba. In the early 19th century the British were allied to the legitimate government of Portugal... I guess even you can see the difference... :cry:
Castro is not representative of the Cubans. He was not elected. So the exiles are equally representative as he was.
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