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Re: Consider the possibility we are led by idiots

Post by cassowary » Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:59 pm

Milo wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:38 am
Doc wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:01 pm
Consider the possibility that Ben Domenech is an idiot.
Plagiarism[edit]
In early 2006, Domenech was hired by the Washington Post's online arm to write a blog providing "a daily mix of commentary, analysis and cultural criticism".[37] Media Matters for America criticized the choice, claiming that "[t]here [were], however, no progressive bloggers—and no one left of center with the credentials of a political operative—on washingtonpost.com to provide balance to Domenech."[38] Instapundit founder Glenn Reynolds surmised in an interview The New York Times that Domenech's appointment had attracted anger among liberals "because he was a conservative and he was given real estate at The Washington Post" which in turn spurred bloggers to find "something they could use to get rid of him," referring to the disclosures only days after Domenech's appointment of his extensive plagiarism.[4]

Red America launched on March 21, 2006, but Domenech resigned three days later after having written only six posts, after his fellow bloggers posted evidence online that Domenech had plagiarized the work of other journalists from The Washington Post, The New Yorker, National Review, the humorist P. J. O'Rourke, the film critic Stephanie Zacharek, the writer, Mary Elizabeth Williams, and that of several other publications and writers. O'Rourke denied Domenech's claim that the humorist had granted permission to use his words: "I wouldn't want to swear in a court of law that I never met the guy", O'Rourke told The New York Times, "but I didn't give him permission to use my words under his byline, no."[4] Editors for Domenech's college newspaper, The Flat Hat, denied allegations by Domenech that one instance of plagiarism resulted from his editors having "inserted a passage from The New Yorker in an article without his knowledge," saying that "Mr. Domenech's actions, if true, [were] deeply offensive." In another instance, Domenech has plagiarized from a front-page article in The Washington Post, the very newspaper he was now going to work for.[4] On March 24, 2006, the editors of The National Review confirmed on its blog The Corner[39] that Domenech appeared to have plagiarized for at least one article he had written for that publication.

Demands for Domenech's resignation were immediate and came not only came from liberal and progressive writers and bloggers, but also many conservatives who had been previously supportive. Michelle Malkin, who published a book edited by Domenech, wrote:

I cheered for Ben, the editor of my last book at Regnery, when he announced his new position. I criticized unhinged bloggers on the Left who leveled vicious ad hominem attacks against him.
But now the determined moonbat hordes have exposed multiple instances of what clearly appear to me to be blatant lifting of entire, unique passages by Ben from other writers. It is one thing to paraphrase basic facts from a wire story. But to filch the original thoughts and distinctly crafted phrases of a writer without crediting him/her–and doing so repeatedly–is unacceptable in our business.[40]
The Washington Post online editor Jim Brady announced Domenech's resignation saying "[a]n investigation into these allegations [of plagiarism] was ongoing, and in the interim, Domenech has resigned, effective immediately."[41]

After initially denying that he had plagiarized, Domenech apologized, writing in a RedState post entitled "Contrition," that "[t]here is no excuse for this.... I hope that nothing I've done as a teenager or in my professional life will reflect badly on the movement and principles I believe in... I'm a young man, and I hope that in time that I can earn a measure of the respect that you have given me."[5]

Only days earlier, Domenech addressed his detractors, upset by his plagiarism, defiantly, writing in a blog post: "To my enemies: I take enormous solace in the fact that you spent this week bashing me, instead of America."[4]

Payments from Foreign Agent[edit]
In 2013, Domenech was implicated in a journalism scandal that resulted in the removal of his work from The Washington Examiner and The Huffington Post after it was disclosed that he had received $36,000 from Joshua Trevino, a conservative pundit and lobbyist, in exchange for writing favorable opinion pieces about the government of Malaysia without disclosing the financial relationship. The payments only came to light when Trevino registered as a foreign agent of the Malaysian government, and disclosed that Domenech was one of several young conservative writers he paid to write articles favorable to the Malaysian regime to bolster its image in conservative media.[6][7][42]

After disclosure of the payments, The Washington Examiner and The San Francisco Examiner removed Domenech's posts from their respective websites and replaced it with an editors' note saying that "the author of this item presented content for which, unbeknownst to us, and in violation of our standards, had received payment from a third party mentioned therein—a payment which he also failed to disclose." The Washington Examiner owned The San Francisco Examiner at the time and thus shared content.[6]

Buzzfeed reported at the time that the Malaysian government desired to bolster their public image because the regime had "been accused of multiple human rights abuses and restricting the press and personal freedoms. Anwar, the opposition leader, has faced prosecution for sodomy, a prosecution widely denounced in the West, which Trevino defended as more 'nuanced' than American observers realized."[6]

Domenech explained his actions at the time by saying that Trevino "did not ever have anyone looking over my shoulder for what I wrote, and the guidance really was just to write about the political fray there and give my own opinion. Of course, Josh picked me knowing what my opinion was — I stand by what I wrote at the time."[6]

Labor law violation[edit]
In 2019, following staff of other American media companies unionizing, co-founder Domenech tweeted "first one of you tries to unionize I swear I'll send you back to the salt mine".[43] In 2020, a National Labor Relations Board judge ruled that Domenech had threatened staff illegally and required the company to post notices in its offices and email employees to inform them about their legal rights.[44] Domenech argued unsuccessfully that the tweet was a joke. But the NLRB judge ruled: "In viewing the totality of the circumstances surrounding the tweet, this tweet had no other purpose except to threaten...Federalist employees with unspecified reprisal, as the underlying meaning of ‘salt mine’ so signifies."[44] The New Civil Liberties Alliance, a conservative, libertarian nonprofit dedicated to fighting what it regards as an excessive administrative state, and which had been representing The Federalist pro bono, announced that the they would appeal. Reason and National Review have published articles questioning the judge's decision.[45][46]

The NLRB upheld the judge's ruling in November 2020. The NLRB ordered The Federalist to "direct Domenech to delete the statement from his personal Twitter account, and to take appropriate steps to ensure Domenech complies with the directive." The Federalist said it would appeal.[47]

Other controversies[edit]
Domenech was caught at least once for allegedly fabricating a quote. A June 20, 2002, Spinsanity.org entry demonstrated that Domenech made up a quote he attributed to Tim Russert in order to defend President Bush.[48][49]

In a 2010 post written for CBS, Domenech wrongly described Supreme Court Justice nominee Elena Kagan as potentially the "first openly gay justice." Dan Farber, editor in chief of CBSNews.com, later said in a statement that "after looking at the facts we determined that it was nothing but pure and irresponsible speculation on the blogger's part."[50] Domenech said in an addendum to his column, "I have to correct my text here to say that Kagan is apparently still closeted—odd, because her female partner is rather well known in Harvard circles."[51] In fact, however, numerous reports confirmed that Kagan was not gay, forcing Domenech to issue a public apology to Kagan "if she is offended at all by my repetition of a Harvard rumor in a speculative blog post."[52]

In November 2017, The Federalist, the publication of which Domenech is a co-founder and publisher, came under criticism from both conservatives and liberals for publishing an opinion piece by Tully Borland, an Ouachita Baptist University philosopher, defending Roy Moore, a former Alabama Supreme Court justice, and then Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate, for dating teenagers, some as young as fourteen years old, while Moore himself was in his late 30s, arguing that such behavior was "not without some merit if one wants to raise a large family." In the subtitle of the article, Borland said that he himself had "a 14-year old daughter", and if he "caught Roy Moore doing what was alleged" to his own daughter, he would physically harm him. "That said," Borland continued, "I don't think it's wrong to vote for Moore." Borland also quoted another philosophy professor as telling him that when Moore pursued relationships with the young girls It was a "different time" and that she was "sick to death of people imposing their own moral standards on people" by contemporary standards of things they did in the past. [53]

Noah Rothman of the conservative Commentary Magazine stated that the op-ed was "rationalizing away child molestation" while "preening self-righteous in the process.[53] Molly Roberts of the Washington Post wrote that the op-ed was "uniquely awful" and advocated "moral bankruptcy"[54] Domenech defended The Federalist for publishing Borland's op-ed saying the magazine "remains avowedly committed to offering alternative views. For those that have a problem with this, the question is simple: what are you afraid of?"[55] The New York Times has since reported that one of the Federalist's largest, secret funders had been Dick Uihlein, a "Midwestern packing supply magnate and Trump donor" who has also financed Moore's Senate campaign.[35]

On February 21, 2018, Domenech sparked outrage after he called survivors of one of the worst mass shootings in the nation's history. at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, a "bunch of idiots".[56]

In July 2018, on the day that the Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election indicted 12 Russian agents, Domenech disseminated information from a hoax version of the indictment documents. Domenech falsely reported that "much of it [the indictment] is taken up by the numbers of times that people were posting memes on the internet," citing the fake indictment, which claimed that the 12 Russians charged had only engaged in insignificant "shitposting" and the use of memes.[57][58]

In May 2019, Domenech's wife Meghan McCain appeared on Late Night with Seth Meyers, where she and Meyers discussed McCain's assertion that Rep. Ilhan Omar was anti-Semitic. Shortly thereafter, Domenech posted a number of crude tweets targeting Meyers, calling Meyers an "untalented piece of shit" and "monumental asshole" who "only has his job because he regularly gargled Lorne Michaels’ balls." The Daily Beast described Domenech's behavior as him having gone "on an unhinged rant agsinst the late-night host... that was at times homophobic." Domenech later deleted his tweets and apologized for "rage tweeting".[59][60]

During the coronavirus pandemic, The Federalist published numerous articles, many of them written by Domenech himself, that contained false information or information that was contrary to the recommendations of public health experts and authorities.[61][62] The Federalist published articles denouncing social distancing, and others claiming that fears over the coronavirus pandemic had been overhyped by the Democratic Party and the media. The Federalist co-founder Sean Davis wrote that Democrats were intentionally trying to "destroy the economy" as a "last-ditch 2020 play" because "all they care about is power. And if they have to destroy your life and business to get power back, they will."[62][63]

Domenech also published a piece, entitled "How Medical ‘Chickenpox Parties’ Could Turn The Tide Of The Wuhan Virus," by an individual identified as a physician in Oregon who recommended that people hold "chickenpox"-style parties for the coronavirus to build herd immunity, recommendations contrary to those of virtually all mainstream public health experts. "Given the recent example of spring break 2020 for college students in Florida, one could imagine such gatherings even becoming a social activity," the author, Doug Perednia wrote. Pedrednia, a former dermatologist, had been a businessman for the past 25 years, during which time he had not practiced medicine, and also allowed his medical license to lapse.[62][64][65][66] The Federalist was subsequently temporarily suspended from Twitter because the website, Twitter said, had used its platform to promote fringe ideas that contradicted public health experts and were harmful to public health.[65]

In June 2020, Google Ads warned The Federalist that it was considering demonetizing the website because of racism in its comment section; The Federalist removed the comments Google objected to, and Google announced that "no action will be taken".[67][68] In response, Domenech said: "We are really learning the degree to which Big Tech can be weaponized by woke mobs, or woke journalists in this case, to try to shut down places who disagree with their leftist agenda."[69]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Domen ... troversies
He may be a plagiarist but that does not mean his ideas are wrong. Is he right? Was Fauci lying? Did he know the money he gave Peter Daszak went to Wuhan to do change of function research? This research could also be used to create a bio weapon.
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Re: Consider the possibility we are led by idiots

Post by Doc » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:46 am

cassowary wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:59 pm
Milo wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:38 am
Doc wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:01 pm
Consider the possibility that Ben Domenech is an idiot.
Plagiarism[edit]
In early 2006, Domenech was hired by the Washington Post's online arm to write a blog providing "a daily mix of commentary, analysis and cultural criticism".[37] Media Matters for America criticized the choice, claiming that "[t]here [were], however, no progressive bloggers—and no one left of center with the credentials of a political operative—on washingtonpost.com to provide balance to Domenech."[38] Instapundit founder Glenn Reynolds surmised in an interview The New York Times that Domenech's appointment had attracted anger among liberals "because he was a conservative and he was given real estate at The Washington Post" which in turn spurred bloggers to find "something they could use to get rid of him," referring to the disclosures only days after Domenech's appointment of his extensive plagiarism.[4]

Red America launched on March 21, 2006, but Domenech resigned three days later after having written only six posts, after his fellow bloggers posted evidence online that Domenech had plagiarized the work of other journalists from The Washington Post, The New Yorker, National Review, the humorist P. J. O'Rourke, the film critic Stephanie Zacharek, the writer, Mary Elizabeth Williams, and that of several other publications and writers. O'Rourke denied Domenech's claim that the humorist had granted permission to use his words: "I wouldn't want to swear in a court of law that I never met the guy", O'Rourke told The New York Times, "but I didn't give him permission to use my words under his byline, no."[4] Editors for Domenech's college newspaper, The Flat Hat, denied allegations by Domenech that one instance of plagiarism resulted from his editors having "inserted a passage from The New Yorker in an article without his knowledge," saying that "Mr. Domenech's actions, if true, [were] deeply offensive." In another instance, Domenech has plagiarized from a front-page article in The Washington Post, the very newspaper he was now going to work for.[4] On March 24, 2006, the editors of The National Review confirmed on its blog The Corner[39] that Domenech appeared to have plagiarized for at least one article he had written for that publication.

Demands for Domenech's resignation were immediate and came not only came from liberal and progressive writers and bloggers, but also many conservatives who had been previously supportive. Michelle Malkin, who published a book edited by Domenech, wrote:

I cheered for Ben, the editor of my last book at Regnery, when he announced his new position. I criticized unhinged bloggers on the Left who leveled vicious ad hominem attacks against him.
But now the determined moonbat hordes have exposed multiple instances of what clearly appear to me to be blatant lifting of entire, unique passages by Ben from other writers. It is one thing to paraphrase basic facts from a wire story. But to filch the original thoughts and distinctly crafted phrases of a writer without crediting him/her–and doing so repeatedly–is unacceptable in our business.[40]
The Washington Post online editor Jim Brady announced Domenech's resignation saying "[a]n investigation into these allegations [of plagiarism] was ongoing, and in the interim, Domenech has resigned, effective immediately."[41]

After initially denying that he had plagiarized, Domenech apologized, writing in a RedState post entitled "Contrition," that "[t]here is no excuse for this.... I hope that nothing I've done as a teenager or in my professional life will reflect badly on the movement and principles I believe in... I'm a young man, and I hope that in time that I can earn a measure of the respect that you have given me."[5]

Only days earlier, Domenech addressed his detractors, upset by his plagiarism, defiantly, writing in a blog post: "To my enemies: I take enormous solace in the fact that you spent this week bashing me, instead of America."[4]

Payments from Foreign Agent[edit]
In 2013, Domenech was implicated in a journalism scandal that resulted in the removal of his work from The Washington Examiner and The Huffington Post after it was disclosed that he had received $36,000 from Joshua Trevino, a conservative pundit and lobbyist, in exchange for writing favorable opinion pieces about the government of Malaysia without disclosing the financial relationship. The payments only came to light when Trevino registered as a foreign agent of the Malaysian government, and disclosed that Domenech was one of several young conservative writers he paid to write articles favorable to the Malaysian regime to bolster its image in conservative media.[6][7][42]

After disclosure of the payments, The Washington Examiner and The San Francisco Examiner removed Domenech's posts from their respective websites and replaced it with an editors' note saying that "the author of this item presented content for which, unbeknownst to us, and in violation of our standards, had received payment from a third party mentioned therein—a payment which he also failed to disclose." The Washington Examiner owned The San Francisco Examiner at the time and thus shared content.[6]

Buzzfeed reported at the time that the Malaysian government desired to bolster their public image because the regime had "been accused of multiple human rights abuses and restricting the press and personal freedoms. Anwar, the opposition leader, has faced prosecution for sodomy, a prosecution widely denounced in the West, which Trevino defended as more 'nuanced' than American observers realized."[6]

Domenech explained his actions at the time by saying that Trevino "did not ever have anyone looking over my shoulder for what I wrote, and the guidance really was just to write about the political fray there and give my own opinion. Of course, Josh picked me knowing what my opinion was — I stand by what I wrote at the time."[6]

Labor law violation[edit]
In 2019, following staff of other American media companies unionizing, co-founder Domenech tweeted "first one of you tries to unionize I swear I'll send you back to the salt mine".[43] In 2020, a National Labor Relations Board judge ruled that Domenech had threatened staff illegally and required the company to post notices in its offices and email employees to inform them about their legal rights.[44] Domenech argued unsuccessfully that the tweet was a joke. But the NLRB judge ruled: "In viewing the totality of the circumstances surrounding the tweet, this tweet had no other purpose except to threaten...Federalist employees with unspecified reprisal, as the underlying meaning of ‘salt mine’ so signifies."[44] The New Civil Liberties Alliance, a conservative, libertarian nonprofit dedicated to fighting what it regards as an excessive administrative state, and which had been representing The Federalist pro bono, announced that the they would appeal. Reason and National Review have published articles questioning the judge's decision.[45][46]

The NLRB upheld the judge's ruling in November 2020. The NLRB ordered The Federalist to "direct Domenech to delete the statement from his personal Twitter account, and to take appropriate steps to ensure Domenech complies with the directive." The Federalist said it would appeal.[47]

Other controversies[edit]
Domenech was caught at least once for allegedly fabricating a quote. A June 20, 2002, Spinsanity.org entry demonstrated that Domenech made up a quote he attributed to Tim Russert in order to defend President Bush.[48][49]

In a 2010 post written for CBS, Domenech wrongly described Supreme Court Justice nominee Elena Kagan as potentially the "first openly gay justice." Dan Farber, editor in chief of CBSNews.com, later said in a statement that "after looking at the facts we determined that it was nothing but pure and irresponsible speculation on the blogger's part."[50] Domenech said in an addendum to his column, "I have to correct my text here to say that Kagan is apparently still closeted—odd, because her female partner is rather well known in Harvard circles."[51] In fact, however, numerous reports confirmed that Kagan was not gay, forcing Domenech to issue a public apology to Kagan "if she is offended at all by my repetition of a Harvard rumor in a speculative blog post."[52]

In November 2017, The Federalist, the publication of which Domenech is a co-founder and publisher, came under criticism from both conservatives and liberals for publishing an opinion piece by Tully Borland, an Ouachita Baptist University philosopher, defending Roy Moore, a former Alabama Supreme Court justice, and then Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate, for dating teenagers, some as young as fourteen years old, while Moore himself was in his late 30s, arguing that such behavior was "not without some merit if one wants to raise a large family." In the subtitle of the article, Borland said that he himself had "a 14-year old daughter", and if he "caught Roy Moore doing what was alleged" to his own daughter, he would physically harm him. "That said," Borland continued, "I don't think it's wrong to vote for Moore." Borland also quoted another philosophy professor as telling him that when Moore pursued relationships with the young girls It was a "different time" and that she was "sick to death of people imposing their own moral standards on people" by contemporary standards of things they did in the past. [53]

Noah Rothman of the conservative Commentary Magazine stated that the op-ed was "rationalizing away child molestation" while "preening self-righteous in the process.[53] Molly Roberts of the Washington Post wrote that the op-ed was "uniquely awful" and advocated "moral bankruptcy"[54] Domenech defended The Federalist for publishing Borland's op-ed saying the magazine "remains avowedly committed to offering alternative views. For those that have a problem with this, the question is simple: what are you afraid of?"[55] The New York Times has since reported that one of the Federalist's largest, secret funders had been Dick Uihlein, a "Midwestern packing supply magnate and Trump donor" who has also financed Moore's Senate campaign.[35]

On February 21, 2018, Domenech sparked outrage after he called survivors of one of the worst mass shootings in the nation's history. at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, a "bunch of idiots".[56]

In July 2018, on the day that the Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election indicted 12 Russian agents, Domenech disseminated information from a hoax version of the indictment documents. Domenech falsely reported that "much of it [the indictment] is taken up by the numbers of times that people were posting memes on the internet," citing the fake indictment, which claimed that the 12 Russians charged had only engaged in insignificant "shitposting" and the use of memes.[57][58]

In May 2019, Domenech's wife Meghan McCain appeared on Late Night with Seth Meyers, where she and Meyers discussed McCain's assertion that Rep. Ilhan Omar was anti-Semitic. Shortly thereafter, Domenech posted a number of crude tweets targeting Meyers, calling Meyers an "untalented piece of shit" and "monumental asshole" who "only has his job because he regularly gargled Lorne Michaels’ balls." The Daily Beast described Domenech's behavior as him having gone "on an unhinged rant agsinst the late-night host... that was at times homophobic." Domenech later deleted his tweets and apologized for "rage tweeting".[59][60]

During the coronavirus pandemic, The Federalist published numerous articles, many of them written by Domenech himself, that contained false information or information that was contrary to the recommendations of public health experts and authorities.[61][62] The Federalist published articles denouncing social distancing, and others claiming that fears over the coronavirus pandemic had been overhyped by the Democratic Party and the media. The Federalist co-founder Sean Davis wrote that Democrats were intentionally trying to "destroy the economy" as a "last-ditch 2020 play" because "all they care about is power. And if they have to destroy your life and business to get power back, they will."[62][63]

Domenech also published a piece, entitled "How Medical ‘Chickenpox Parties’ Could Turn The Tide Of The Wuhan Virus," by an individual identified as a physician in Oregon who recommended that people hold "chickenpox"-style parties for the coronavirus to build herd immunity, recommendations contrary to those of virtually all mainstream public health experts. "Given the recent example of spring break 2020 for college students in Florida, one could imagine such gatherings even becoming a social activity," the author, Doug Perednia wrote. Pedrednia, a former dermatologist, had been a businessman for the past 25 years, during which time he had not practiced medicine, and also allowed his medical license to lapse.[62][64][65][66] The Federalist was subsequently temporarily suspended from Twitter because the website, Twitter said, had used its platform to promote fringe ideas that contradicted public health experts and were harmful to public health.[65]

In June 2020, Google Ads warned The Federalist that it was considering demonetizing the website because of racism in its comment section; The Federalist removed the comments Google objected to, and Google announced that "no action will be taken".[67][68] In response, Domenech said: "We are really learning the degree to which Big Tech can be weaponized by woke mobs, or woke journalists in this case, to try to shut down places who disagree with their leftist agenda."[69]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Domen ... troversies
He may be a plagiarist but that does not mean his ideas are wrong. Is he right? Was Fauci lying? Did he know the money he gave Peter Daszak went to Wuhan to do change of function research? This research could also be used to create a bio weapon.
The most damning part is that accidentally, or not, it is a bio weapon. The CCP banned travel from Wuhan to the rest of China but allowed travel from Wuhan to the rest of the world.
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Re: Consider the possibility we are led by idiots

Post by Doc » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:58 am

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... -security/

Reported Chinese Defector With Information About Wuhan Lab Possibly Related to Sun Lijun, Former Chinese Deputy Minister of Public Security


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Red State is reporting on a defector to the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) who is presumably giving the U.S. government information related to the leak from Wuhan BioLab.

RED STATE – […] “Sources tell RedState the defector has been with the DIA for three months and that he has provided an extensive, technically detailed debrief to US officials. In DIA’s assessment, the information provided by the defector is legitimate. Sources say the level of confidence in the defector’s information is what has led to a sudden crisis of confidence in Dr. Anthony Fauci, adding that U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) personnel detailed to DIA have corroborated very technical details of information provided by the defector. (read more)


Interestingly, one of the incredibly astute Twitter researchers who focuses on China, “aka Ben“, previously reported on the family of Sun Lijun who defected to Australia in February of last year. Sun Lijun was the former Chinese Deputy Minister of Public Security who was sent to Wuhan to manage (aka cover-up) the SARS-CoV-2 breakout. His wife and children fled China during the height of the pandemic spread.

As Ben noted: after Sun Lijun’s family defected to Australia in February 2020, Sun Lijun was arrested by the Chinese Communist Party in April 2020 under the auspices of corruption charges; a familiar way of dealing with those who defy the communist regime. If the defector identified within the Red State reporting is accurate, the description would align with someone very close to Lijun (likely), if not Lijun himself (less likely).

Ben is always well researched and accurate. We’ll keep watching…

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And the DIA has kept this information to themselves, not shared it with the FBI, CIA nor the State Department because DIA feels that those agencies and more are compromised by CCP spies/sources.
Yikes.
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Re: Consider the possibility we are led by idiots

Post by Milo » Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:20 am

So, the theory is that Fauci discouraged the use of masks and sent funds to China to develop a bioweapon? Why would he do that exactly?

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Re: Consider the possibility we are led by idiots

Post by Doc » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:00 pm

Milo wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:20 am
So, the theory is that Fauci discouraged the use of masks and sent funds to China to develop a bioweapon? Why would he do that exactly?
The theory is that Fauci sent money to the CCP lab that despite his claims in multiple interviews is incompetent to handle dangerous pathogens. Once they incompetently leaked the CCP Virus. They decided to turn it into a bio weapon by banning travel from Wuhan to other parts of China but allowed people from Wuhan to travel to other destinations outside of China. Manipulating the spread of the virus with the help of the WHO and Fauci(who was thanked by the head of the Chinese CDC for downplaying the lab leak hypothesis) certainly is using it as a bio-weapo.

THe alternative is Fauci send money to fund a PLA program to develop bio Weapons.

Fauci has given two different incompatible versions as to why he discouraged use of masks

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Re: Consider the possibility we are led by idiots

Post by cassowary » Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:32 pm

Doc wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:00 pm
Milo wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:20 am
So, the theory is that Fauci discouraged the use of masks and sent funds to China to develop a bioweapon? Why would he do that exactly?
The theory is that Fauci sent money to the CCP lab that despite his claims in multiple interviews is incompetent to handle dangerous pathogens. Once they incompetently leaked the CCP Virus. They decided to turn it into a bio weapon by banning travel from Wuhan to other parts of China but allowed people from Wuhan to travel to other destinations outside of China. Manipulating the spread of the virus with the help of the WHO and Fauci(who was thanked by the head of the Chinese CDC for downplaying the lab leak hypothesis) certainly is using it as a bio-weapo.

THe alternative is Fauci send money to fund a PLA program to develop bio Weapons.

Fauci has given two different incompatible versions as to why he discouraged use of masks

Did Fauci know that Peter Daszak was going to use the money to do gain of function research in China? That part is not clear.
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Re: Consider the possibility we are led by idiots

Post by cassowary » Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:43 pm

So Fauci lied to make sure that doctors will have enough masks. I can understand that. We need to take care of doctors and Nurses first. If the get sick, who will care for the public?

I am more concerned why money was sent to China to do research that could turn into a bio weapon.
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Re: Consider the possibility we are led by idiots

Post by dagbay » Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:51 pm

cassowary wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:43 pm
So Fauci lied to make sure that doctors will have enough masks. I can understand that. We need to take care of doctors and Nurses first. If the get sick, who will care for the public?

I am more concerned why money was sent to China to do research that could turn into a bio weapon.
I believe that the answer to that is that such research would not be legal in the US...
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Re: Consider the possibility we are led by idiots

Post by Doc » Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:07 pm

cassowary wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:32 pm
Doc wrote:
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Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:20 am
So, the theory is that Fauci discouraged the use of masks and sent funds to China to develop a bioweapon? Why would he do that exactly?
The theory is that Fauci sent money to the CCP lab that despite his claims in multiple interviews is incompetent to handle dangerous pathogens. Once they incompetently leaked the CCP Virus. They decided to turn it into a bio weapon by banning travel from Wuhan to other parts of China but allowed people from Wuhan to travel to other destinations outside of China. Manipulating the spread of the virus with the help of the WHO and Fauci(who was thanked by the head of the Chinese CDC for downplaying the lab leak hypothesis) certainly is using it as a bio-weapo.

THe alternative is Fauci send money to fund a PLA program to develop bio Weapons.

Fauci has given two different incompatible versions as to why he discouraged use of masks

Did Fauci know that Peter Daszak was going to use the money to do gain of function research in China? That part is not clear.
Fauci was the biggest booster for gain of function research in the US government.
Fauci pushed to restart the gain of function research
Fauci was supposed to write a paper with Peter Daszak on the gain of function research but he backed out.

So yes Fauci absolutely knew it was gain of function research
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Re: Consider the possibility we are led by idiots

Post by Doc » Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:10 pm

dagbay wrote:
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So Fauci lied to make sure that doctors will have enough masks. I can understand that. We need to take care of doctors and Nurses first. If the get sick, who will care for the public?

I am more concerned why money was sent to China to do research that could turn into a bio weapon.
I believe that the answer to that is that such research would not be legal in the US...
Same here. It is either illegal or very tightly controlled in the US. Making China, with its lack of over sight, a very temping place to conduct such research. Especially tempting when you consider how much Big Pharma has made on just the CCP Virus vacines.
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