Belarus and Austria: a Tale of Two Countries

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Re: Belarus and Austria: a Tale of Two Countries

Post by Sertorio » Fri May 28, 2021 10:38 am

Milo wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 10:17 am
Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 9:45 am
Milo wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 8:19 am
Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 2:36 am
The cover page of an Ukrainian neo-nazi magazine, showing a picture of the Belarussian "journalist" Protasevich in journalist's working clothes ( :o )...


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But the idiots in Western countries only see what they want to see...
Well, you supposedly live in a Western country.
Then, Bellingcat researcher Oleksiy Kuzmenko found somewhere in Telegram a cover for Azov Black Sun magazine which shows a young man in a uniform with a combat weapon with suggestions that it is Protasevich.
It was posted on a small Telegram channel whose administrator is allegedly a former anarchist and a dishonest drug dealer from Azov circles who moved out of Ukraine, fearing consequences for his frauds. Also, he allegedly spreads rumors that Azov leaders attend a synagogue. Not the most reliable source in the world, I guess. A good example of why local expertise from the ground matters for correctly interpreting materials found in open sources!
http://euromaidanpress.com/2021/05/26/p ... -neo-nazi/
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Protasevich lined up with the Azov regiment in Ukraine

Protasevich on the back row, between the two taller guys on the front row.

https://tiranapost.net/lajme-nga-bota/g ... fo-i498425

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Belarusian “journalist” Roman Protasevich serving with Nazi Azov battalion in 2014 - proudly sporting the Nazi Azov insignia on his arm, in addition to the photo posted above, if it wasn’t enough. #belarus #RomanProtasevich

But for Milo these are all fake photos...And Bellingcat is a most reliable source... :D
The Azov regiment is part of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, so even if he served in it, it proves nothing else.

Same source as before.
Since Roman Protasevich is not Ukrainian, him serving in a nazi Ukrainian unit must indicate an ideological affinity of Protasevich with extremist ideas. Is that the person one thinks should get Western support in overthrowing Lukashenko? Not that I am surprised, but it is difficult to justify if one wants democracy to come out victorious in Belarus...

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Re: Belarus and Austria: a Tale of Two Countries

Post by Milo » Fri May 28, 2021 10:50 am

Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 10:38 am
Milo wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 10:17 am
Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 9:45 am
Milo wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 8:19 am
Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 2:36 am
The cover page of an Ukrainian neo-nazi magazine, showing a picture of the Belarussian "journalist" Protasevich in journalist's working clothes ( :o )...


Image

But the idiots in Western countries only see what they want to see...
Well, you supposedly live in a Western country.
Then, Bellingcat researcher Oleksiy Kuzmenko found somewhere in Telegram a cover for Azov Black Sun magazine which shows a young man in a uniform with a combat weapon with suggestions that it is Protasevich.
It was posted on a small Telegram channel whose administrator is allegedly a former anarchist and a dishonest drug dealer from Azov circles who moved out of Ukraine, fearing consequences for his frauds. Also, he allegedly spreads rumors that Azov leaders attend a synagogue. Not the most reliable source in the world, I guess. A good example of why local expertise from the ground matters for correctly interpreting materials found in open sources!
http://euromaidanpress.com/2021/05/26/p ... -neo-nazi/
Image
Protasevich lined up with the Azov regiment in Ukraine

Protasevich on the back row, between the two taller guys on the front row.

https://tiranapost.net/lajme-nga-bota/g ... fo-i498425

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@ASBMilitary
· 9h
Belarusian “journalist” Roman Protasevich serving with Nazi Azov battalion in 2014 - proudly sporting the Nazi Azov insignia on his arm, in addition to the photo posted above, if it wasn’t enough. #belarus #RomanProtasevich

But for Milo these are all fake photos...And Bellingcat is a most reliable source... :D
The Azov regiment is part of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, so even if he served in it, it proves nothing else.

Same source as before.
Since Roman Protasevich is not Ukrainian, him serving in a nazi Ukrainian unit must indicate an ideological affinity of Protasevich with extremist ideas. Is that the person one thinks should get Western support in overthrowing Lukashenko? Not that I am surprised, but it is difficult to justify if one wants democracy to come out victorious in Belarus...
Yes, anyone familiar with Russian disinformation knows the trope that Ukrainians are all Nazis.

Also the classic reduction of a movement to challenge obviously fixed elections to that of a single person overthrowing another is a silly diversion quite common with these sort of propaganda plays.

Putin did it full time when he was a KGB officer in East Germany, now he’s doing it as dictator of Russia.

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Re: Belarus and Austria: a Tale of Two Countries

Post by Sertorio » Fri May 28, 2021 11:23 am

Milo wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 10:50 am
Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 10:38 am
Milo wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 10:17 am
Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 9:45 am
Milo wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 8:19 am
Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 2:36 am
The cover page of an Ukrainian neo-nazi magazine, showing a picture of the Belarussian "journalist" Protasevich in journalist's working clothes ( :o )...


Image

But the idiots in Western countries only see what they want to see...
Well, you supposedly live in a Western country.
Then, Bellingcat researcher Oleksiy Kuzmenko found somewhere in Telegram a cover for Azov Black Sun magazine which shows a young man in a uniform with a combat weapon with suggestions that it is Protasevich.
It was posted on a small Telegram channel whose administrator is allegedly a former anarchist and a dishonest drug dealer from Azov circles who moved out of Ukraine, fearing consequences for his frauds. Also, he allegedly spreads rumors that Azov leaders attend a synagogue. Not the most reliable source in the world, I guess. A good example of why local expertise from the ground matters for correctly interpreting materials found in open sources!
http://euromaidanpress.com/2021/05/26/p ... -neo-nazi/
Image
Protasevich lined up with the Azov regiment in Ukraine

Protasevich on the back row, between the two taller guys on the front row.

https://tiranapost.net/lajme-nga-bota/g ... fo-i498425

Image


ASB News / MILITARYPart alternation mark
@ASBMilitary
· 9h
Belarusian “journalist” Roman Protasevich serving with Nazi Azov battalion in 2014 - proudly sporting the Nazi Azov insignia on his arm, in addition to the photo posted above, if it wasn’t enough. #belarus #RomanProtasevich

But for Milo these are all fake photos...And Bellingcat is a most reliable source... :D
The Azov regiment is part of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, so even if he served in it, it proves nothing else.

Same source as before.
Since Roman Protasevich is not Ukrainian, him serving in a nazi Ukrainian unit must indicate an ideological affinity of Protasevich with extremist ideas. Is that the person one thinks should get Western support in overthrowing Lukashenko? Not that I am surprised, but it is difficult to justify if one wants democracy to come out victorious in Belarus...
Yes, anyone familiar with Russian disinformation knows the trope that Ukrainians are all Nazis.

Also the classic reduction of a movement to challenge obviously fixed elections to that of a single person overthrowing another is a silly diversion quite common with these sort of propaganda plays.

Putin did it full time when he was a KGB officer in East Germany, now he’s doing it as dictator of Russia.
So, in your opinion, an extremist from the right - Protasevich - would be a great alternative to Lukashenko... But if one supported Pinochet, why not a real fascist such as Protasevich?... ;)

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Re: Belarus and Austria: a Tale of Two Countries

Post by Milo » Fri May 28, 2021 12:21 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 11:23 am
Milo wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 10:50 am
Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 10:38 am
Milo wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 10:17 am
Sertorio wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 9:45 am
Milo wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 8:19 am


Well, you supposedly live in a Western country.





http://euromaidanpress.com/2021/05/26/p ... -neo-nazi/
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Protasevich lined up with the Azov regiment in Ukraine

Protasevich on the back row, between the two taller guys on the front row.

https://tiranapost.net/lajme-nga-bota/g ... fo-i498425

Image


ASB News / MILITARYPart alternation mark
@ASBMilitary
· 9h
Belarusian “journalist” Roman Protasevich serving with Nazi Azov battalion in 2014 - proudly sporting the Nazi Azov insignia on his arm, in addition to the photo posted above, if it wasn’t enough. #belarus #RomanProtasevich

But for Milo these are all fake photos...And Bellingcat is a most reliable source... :D
The Azov regiment is part of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, so even if he served in it, it proves nothing else.

Same source as before.
Since Roman Protasevich is not Ukrainian, him serving in a nazi Ukrainian unit must indicate an ideological affinity of Protasevich with extremist ideas. Is that the person one thinks should get Western support in overthrowing Lukashenko? Not that I am surprised, but it is difficult to justify if one wants democracy to come out victorious in Belarus...
Yes, anyone familiar with Russian disinformation knows the trope that Ukrainians are all Nazis.

Also the classic reduction of a movement to challenge obviously fixed elections to that of a single person overthrowing another is a silly diversion quite common with these sort of propaganda plays.

Putin did it full time when he was a KGB officer in East Germany, now he’s doing it as dictator of Russia.
So, in your opinion, an extremist from the right - Protasevich - would be a great alternative to Lukashenko... But if one supported Pinochet, why not a real fascist such as Protasevich?... ;)
As I often say to you, I never said any such thing.

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Re: Belarus and Austria: a Tale of Two Countries

Post by Sertorio » Sun May 30, 2021 11:50 pm

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So that everybody understands what the real issue is...

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