Naughty Israelis?

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Jim the Moron
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Re: Naughty Israelis?

Post by Jim the Moron » Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:32 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:46 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:12 pm
Fires sink Iran's Largest Warship and Ravage Big Refinery"
https://nytimes.com/2021/06/02/world/mi ... -fire.html
". . . targeted by Israeli saboteurs?"

See what I mean? Always the naughty Israelis. I personally suspect the dastardly Peruvians.
Could be acts of God/Allah/Y---h... As such they are insurable... :D

You are correct, cass. This was the most recent post related to the likely Israeli sabotage activities. All too often here themes entirely unrelated are diverted into discussions on capitalism vs socialism, Catholics vs Protestants, the US bad bad, China bad bad, Russia good good, Australia good good, etc.

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Re: Naughty Israelis?

Post by Sertorio » Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:20 am

cassowary wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:12 pm

So in other words, our scientific knowledge is very limited. All the more not to fully trust it. Those who say they believe in science are believing in the little we know and forgetting that there is even more that we don’t know. The laws of nature we discovered, as you said, pertains only to the 5% of the universe that we can see. And even then, we don’t know everything. Maybe we only know 5% of this 5%.

So let the Marxist materialists like Sertorio be humbled by that thought. God will always be a mystery, likely beyond human power of comprehending.
In other words, because you are very ignorant you believe in God. Congratulations, but the cavemen beat you to it...

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Re: Naughty Israelis?

Post by dagbay » Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:06 am

Sertorio wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:20 am
cassowary wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:12 pm

So in other words, our scientific knowledge is very limited. All the more not to fully trust it. Those who say they believe in science are believing in the little we know and forgetting that there is even more that we don’t know. The laws of nature we discovered, as you said, pertains only to the 5% of the universe that we can see. And even then, we don’t know everything. Maybe we only know 5% of this 5%.

So let the Marxist materialists like Sertorio be humbled by that thought. God will always be a mystery, likely beyond human power of comprehending.
In other words, because you are very ignorant you believe in God. Congratulations, but the cavemen beat you to it...
Sertorio, do you recognize that your comment can equally apply to atheism. There is no basis in our knowledge of nature to decide the matter of faith one way or the other. Why don't you stick to facts.?
I'd rather be diving or flying alas for now I am on terra firma.

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Re: Naughty Israelis?

Post by cassowary » Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:09 am

Sertorio wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:20 am
cassowary wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:12 pm

So in other words, our scientific knowledge is very limited. All the more not to fully trust it. Those who say they believe in science are believing in the little we know and forgetting that there is even more that we don’t know. The laws of nature we discovered, as you said, pertains only to the 5% of the universe that we can see. And even then, we don’t know everything. Maybe we only know 5% of this 5%.

So let the Marxist materialists like Sertorio be humbled by that thought. God will always be a mystery, likely beyond human power of comprehending.
In other words, because you are very ignorant you believe in God. Congratulations, but the cavemen beat you to it...
Because you don't know how much you don't know, you believe in atheism. Congratulations, the ignoramus in you beat you to it.
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Re: Naughty Israelis?

Post by neverfail » Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:25 pm

cassowary wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:09 am
Sertorio wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:20 am


In other words, because you are very ignorant you believe in God. Congratulations, but the cavemen beat you to it...
Because you don't know how much you don't know, you believe in atheism. Congratulations, the ignoramus in you beat you to it.
Cass, former believers usually become athiests, agnostics and other categories of skeptic because during their younger, formative years they were presented with a picture of God which as they came of age turned out to be patently unacceptable to them.

(Even I, after 12 years of unrelenting brainwashing at the Church schools I was compelled to attend found that I needed to take a good, long break away from it all).

Men are not always lifelong consistent in their beliefs and while some remain non-believers until death others return to faith after they have had long enough to sort themselves out.

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Re: Naughty Israelis?

Post by Sertorio » Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:27 am

dagbay wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:06 am
Sertorio wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:20 am
cassowary wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:12 pm

So in other words, our scientific knowledge is very limited. All the more not to fully trust it. Those who say they believe in science are believing in the little we know and forgetting that there is even more that we don’t know. The laws of nature we discovered, as you said, pertains only to the 5% of the universe that we can see. And even then, we don’t know everything. Maybe we only know 5% of this 5%.

So let the Marxist materialists like Sertorio be humbled by that thought. God will always be a mystery, likely beyond human power of comprehending.
In other words, because you are very ignorant you believe in God. Congratulations, but the cavemen beat you to it...
Sertorio, do you recognize that your comment can equally apply to atheism. There is no basis in our knowledge of nature to decide the matter of faith one way or the other. Why don't you stick to facts.?
Facts? The world exists. Matter and energy exist. Spirits do not exist. Matter is composed of many sorts of particles. A spiritual being would be composed of what? Awareness and self awareness reside in the brain. A spirit's self awareness would reside where? Faith is what? Believing in what cannot be proven seems a pretty dumb exercise, which does not mean that framing hypothesis is not a valid exercise. As long as they are reasonable and you don't believe in their validity until they are proven. The idea of a creator God is so preposterous that one may doubt the sanity of believers...

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Re: Naughty Israelis?

Post by Sertorio » Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:33 am

cassowary wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:09 am
Sertorio wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:20 am
cassowary wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:12 pm

So in other words, our scientific knowledge is very limited. All the more not to fully trust it. Those who say they believe in science are believing in the little we know and forgetting that there is even more that we don’t know. The laws of nature we discovered, as you said, pertains only to the 5% of the universe that we can see. And even then, we don’t know everything. Maybe we only know 5% of this 5%.

So let the Marxist materialists like Sertorio be humbled by that thought. God will always be a mystery, likely beyond human power of comprehending.
In other words, because you are very ignorant you believe in God. Congratulations, but the cavemen beat you to it...
Because you don't know how much you don't know, you believe in atheism. Congratulations, the ignoramus in you beat you to it.
Believing in atheism is a nonsense. You cannot believe in the non-existence of something... ;)

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Re: Naughty Israelis?

Post by cassowary » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:32 am

Sertorio wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:33 am
cassowary wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:09 am
Sertorio wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:20 am
cassowary wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:12 pm

So in other words, our scientific knowledge is very limited. All the more not to fully trust it. Those who say they believe in science are believing in the little we know and forgetting that there is even more that we don’t know. The laws of nature we discovered, as you said, pertains only to the 5% of the universe that we can see. And even then, we don’t know everything. Maybe we only know 5% of this 5%.

So let the Marxist materialists like Sertorio be humbled by that thought. God will always be a mystery, likely beyond human power of comprehending.
In other words, because you are very ignorant you believe in God. Congratulations, but the cavemen beat you to it...
Because you don't know how much you don't know, you believe in atheism. Congratulations, the ignoramus in you beat you to it.
Believing in atheism is a nonsense. You cannot believe in the non-existence of something... ;)
You believe in the non-existence of God.That's the definition of atheism.
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Re: Naughty Israelis?

Post by cassowary » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:33 am

Hahaha. Its fun to discuss things with you Sertorio. But maybe its time to get back to talking about Iran.

Iran's warship is headed to the Atlantic.
At least two ships from Iran’s small navy are making a high seas voyage to Venezuela. One of them, called the IRINS Makran may have several small fast boats strapped to its deck according to USNI news. This matters because it will boost the ability of Venezuela to harass ships, and also because it highlights that Iran's blue-water navy is capable of long distance missions.
It has been a bad year for Iran’s navy. The large Iranian ship Kharq sank last week after a devastating fire. The Iranian IRGC-linked spy ship Saviz was attacked in the Red Sea in April. Iran’s submarines appear to be inoperable and in dry dock. But it’s not all bad news. Iran received a new ship called Shahed Roudaki over the last year and the Makran is considered one of its largest ships at 228 meters long. In February the IRGC navy received 340 new small vessels, some with drones.
Let's see how long these ships will last.
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Re: Naughty Israelis?

Post by Sertorio » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:46 am

cassowary wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:32 am
Sertorio wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:33 am
cassowary wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:09 am
Sertorio wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:20 am
cassowary wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:12 pm

So in other words, our scientific knowledge is very limited. All the more not to fully trust it. Those who say they believe in science are believing in the little we know and forgetting that there is even more that we don’t know. The laws of nature we discovered, as you said, pertains only to the 5% of the universe that we can see. And even then, we don’t know everything. Maybe we only know 5% of this 5%.

So let the Marxist materialists like Sertorio be humbled by that thought. God will always be a mystery, likely beyond human power of comprehending.
In other words, because you are very ignorant you believe in God. Congratulations, but the cavemen beat you to it...
Because you don't know how much you don't know, you believe in atheism. Congratulations, the ignoramus in you beat you to it.
Believing in atheism is a nonsense. You cannot believe in the non-existence of something... ;)
You believe in the non-existence of God.That's the definition of atheism.
No! I do not believe in God, which is the correct way to formulate it... ;)

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