Exactly right.cassowary wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:11 pm
All Europeans have to do is to simply ask the US to leave, and the US troops will leave. France did ask the US troops to leave after WWII and US troops left French soil. But Europe does not, which proves that majority of Europeans want US forces to remain. Why? It because they are afraid of Russia.
Don't you find it strange cass that historically and going back centuries: regardless of what regime of government the Russian state produces to live under; Tsarist, post-Bolshevik Communist or post-Communist authoritarian they always conduct their foreign policy in ways that arouse the fears and misgivings of others; especially of their near neighbours. The Russian urge seems always to dominate and rule; not to build bonds of empathy and trust.
Also right!The same goes for Asia. As I pointed out the Filipinos asked the US to leave and they left. So what you said, Sertorio, is nonsense. Or at least, the majority of Europeans don’t agree with you. US forces are in Europe because most Europeans desire US protection.
Why does Sertorio have so much difficulty in visualising the Western alliance as a voluntary alssociation of states who group together in their own mutual best interests? He seems to be fixated with the misleading vision of a Western replica of the Soviet Union's subservient Warsaw Pact empire of servile satellite states bound together only by the coercive power exercised by and from Moscow.
I would like to add to that.
While Australia has had a formal Alliance with the United States since 1951 (and a more informal, defacto one even longer than that) : after the departure of the last WW2 US GI's based in Australia in 1944 for MacArthur's Philippines campaign there was not even a single platoon of US soldiers based anywhere in Australia - until just a decade ago.
In November 2011 during an official visit to Australia President Barrick Obama persuaded the Australian government to allow the rotation of US marines through our northern port of Darwin for the puropse of conducting joint training exercises with units of the Australian Army. It still means that the US has no permanent military bases in Australia - the visiting marines are housed in borrowed Australian barracks while they are here. However the Australian government led by Julia Gillard readily agreed to the proposal for she and her government like Obama's viewed evident signs of growing PRC assertiveness with disquiet.
If any Australian government were to say "no more visits by US marines" the US would stop sending them here.