How Much to Oppose Islam?

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Re: How Much to Oppose Islam?

Post by neverfail » Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:47 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:54 am
NATO was created to protect Europe from the Soviet Union. Since there isn't any Soviet Union anymore, we do not need protection and we don't even need NATO.
No, there is no Soviet Union any more but in its place we now have a thermonuclear clossus named the Russian Federation run by a political strongman whose early career was in the service of the Soviet KGB (ever heard of this orgainisation and its nefarious activities?) as a spy. Putin to this day does not seem to have shed the values of the USSR of old even if he does not run it entirely in the same way.

Since only the USA has a thermonuclear arsenal that matches that of Russia: logicallly as proof of Russian bullying Europe needs the USA with its thermonuclear backup to deter Russia and its non-accountable ruler from becoming too ambitious. It is called 'maintaining a power balance (ever heard of it?)

(You probably will not agree to the above: for when it comes to regarding the benign intentions of the non and anti democratic states of the world you seem to believe in Santa Claus and Mother Goose. Luckily, Europe's policy makers are wiser than you are Sertorio.)

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Re: How Much to Oppose Islam?

Post by Sertorio » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:00 pm

neverfail wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:47 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:54 am
NATO was created to protect Europe from the Soviet Union. Since there isn't any Soviet Union anymore, we do not need protection and we don't even need NATO.
No, there is no Soviet Union any more but in its place we now have a thermonuclear clossus named the Russian Federation run by a political strongman whose early career was in the service of the Soviet KGB (ever heard of this orgainisation and its nefarious activities?) as a spy. Putin to this day does not seem to have shed the values of the USSR of old even if he does not run it entirely in the same way.

Since only the USA has a thermonuclear arsenal that matches that of Russia: logicallly as proof of Russian bullying Europe needs the USA with its thermonuclear backup to deter Russia and its non-accountable ruler from becoming too ambitious. It is called 'maintaining a power balance (ever heard of it?)

(You probably will not agree to the above: for when it comes to regarding the benign intentions of the non and anti democratic states of the world you seem to believe in Santa Claus and Mother Goose. Luckily, Europe's policy makers are wiser than you are Sertorio.)
Russia's nuclear arsenal is in no way meant to be used - not even as a threat - against Europe, so we do not need US nuclear weapons to balance things out. And Putin may have been an officer of the KGB, but he is now an Orthodox Christian who regularly frequents the church. He definitely seems to have changed his values...

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Re: How Much to Oppose Islam?

Post by cassowary » Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:55 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:00 pm
neverfail wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:47 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:54 am
NATO was created to protect Europe from the Soviet Union. Since there isn't any Soviet Union anymore, we do not need protection and we don't even need NATO.
No, there is no Soviet Union any more but in its place we now have a thermonuclear clossus named the Russian Federation run by a political strongman whose early career was in the service of the Soviet KGB (ever heard of this orgainisation and its nefarious activities?) as a spy. Putin to this day does not seem to have shed the values of the USSR of old even if he does not run it entirely in the same way.

Since only the USA has a thermonuclear arsenal that matches that of Russia: logicallly as proof of Russian bullying Europe needs the USA with its thermonuclear backup to deter Russia and its non-accountable ruler from becoming too ambitious. It is called 'maintaining a power balance (ever heard of it?)

(You probably will not agree to the above: for when it comes to regarding the benign intentions of the non and anti democratic states of the world you seem to believe in Santa Claus and Mother Goose. Luckily, Europe's policy makers are wiser than you are Sertorio.)
Russia's nuclear arsenal is in no way meant to be used - not even as a threat - against Europe, so we do not need US nuclear weapons to balance things out. And Putin may have been an officer of the KGB, but he is now an Orthodox Christian who regularly frequents the church. He definitely seems to have changed his values...
Or pretending to have changed. What kind of a Christian is he, when he kills his political opponents?
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Re: How Much to Oppose Islam?

Post by cassowary » Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:01 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:54 am
cassowary wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:48 am
Sertorio wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 12:59 am
cassowary wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:36 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:17 am
cassowary wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:05 am


What utter nonsense, Sertorio. You don't support Xi and Putin, but you support China and Russia whom they respectively control America is not an empire run by gangsters. China and Russia are. You really, really got to hire a shrink to find out why you can't accept reality.
Their actions tell us otherwise. Just look at US policies in respect of Cuba, Bolivia, Venezuela, Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Iran, Germany (Nord Stream 2), and you see the actions of gangsters.
Apart from Germany, the others are not democracies but dictatorships or what the the Democracy Index called "hybrid systems." These regimes ill treat their own people and often their neighbors. So the US is justified in opposing them.

As for Germany, the US is right to be angry. The Germans less than the NATO requirement of 2% of GDP and yet expect the US to protect them from Russia. By buying Russian oil and gas, they are strengthening them economically and militarily.

I notice you support dictatorships against the US. That is why I fear leftists. That is why I am justified to say that it was leftists who supported Hitler. You support Xi against the US even though Xi is behaving like Hitler with his concentration camps. Some called it genocide. If leftists of today support Xi, then I conclude that lefists of yesterday supported Hitler.

See my new post.
Western European countries, including Germany, do not consider Russia as an enemy. We do not need to be protected from someone who does not threaten us, nor has anyone asked the US to protect us from Russia. Doing business with Russia is just like doing business with any other country. In fact it is less dangerous than doing business with the US, which keeps threatening sanctions on us if we do not do as they demand. The US are the Al Capone of the international relations.
Then how come Europeans don’t quit NATO? The purpose of NATO is for the US to protect Europe from Russia.

You are not facing up to reality. Have you made an appointment with a pretty young shrink yet?
NATO was created to protect Europe from the Soviet Union. Since there isn't any Soviet Union anymore, we do not need protection and we don't even need NATO. It only survives for the US to camouflage its aggressive ventures. If you had any brains you would have understood it by now...
Neverfail has given you a good reply. So there is no need for me to repeat.
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Re: How Much to Oppose Islam?

Post by Sertorio » Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:36 am

cassowary wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:55 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:00 pm

Russia's nuclear arsenal is in no way meant to be used - not even as a threat - against Europe, so we do not need US nuclear weapons to balance things out. And Putin may have been an officer of the KGB, but he is now an Orthodox Christian who regularly frequents the church. He definitely seems to have changed his values...
Or pretending to have changed. What kind of a Christian is he, when he kills his political opponents?
I thought Americans were pretty good at killing ("droning") their opponents. Not to speak of John and Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King...And Navalny, the last I heard, was very much alive after the fake poisoning.

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Re: How Much to Oppose Islam?

Post by cassowary » Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:13 am

Sertorio wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:36 am
cassowary wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:55 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:00 pm

Russia's nuclear arsenal is in no way meant to be used - not even as a threat - against Europe, so we do not need US nuclear weapons to balance things out. And Putin may have been an officer of the KGB, but he is now an Orthodox Christian who regularly frequents the church. He definitely seems to have changed his values...
Or pretending to have changed. What kind of a Christian is he, when he kills his political opponents?
I thought Americans were pretty good at killing ("droning") their opponents. Not to speak of John and Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King...And Navalny, the last I heard, was very much alive after the fake poisoning.
Strange. I don’t recall one Presidential candidate killing another. The drone killings were part of a war. I thought in a war, you are supposed to kill one another.
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Re: How Much to Oppose Islam?

Post by Sertorio » Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:24 am

cassowary wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:13 am
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:36 am
cassowary wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:55 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:00 pm

Russia's nuclear arsenal is in no way meant to be used - not even as a threat - against Europe, so we do not need US nuclear weapons to balance things out. And Putin may have been an officer of the KGB, but he is now an Orthodox Christian who regularly frequents the church. He definitely seems to have changed his values...
Or pretending to have changed. What kind of a Christian is he, when he kills his political opponents?
I thought Americans were pretty good at killing ("droning") their opponents. Not to speak of John and Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King...And Navalny, the last I heard, was very much alive after the fake poisoning.
Strange. I don’t recall one Presidential candidate killing another. The drone killings were part of a war. I thought in a war, you are supposed to kill one another.
There is a difference between a war - which must be declared by Parliament - and terrorism, which is what the US does with its illegal bombings.

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Re: How Much to Oppose Islam?

Post by cassowary » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:43 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:24 am
cassowary wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:13 am
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:36 am
cassowary wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:55 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:00 pm

Russia's nuclear arsenal is in no way meant to be used - not even as a threat - against Europe, so we do not need US nuclear weapons to balance things out. And Putin may have been an officer of the KGB, but he is now an Orthodox Christian who regularly frequents the church. He definitely seems to have changed his values...
Or pretending to have changed. What kind of a Christian is he, when he kills his political opponents?
I thought Americans were pretty good at killing ("droning") their opponents. Not to speak of John and Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King...And Navalny, the last I heard, was very much alive after the fake poisoning.
Strange. I don’t recall one Presidential candidate killing another. The drone killings were part of a war. I thought in a war, you are supposed to kill one another.
There is a difference between a war - which must be declared by Parliament - and terrorism, which is what the US does with its illegal bombings.
The US President is commander in chief of the armed forces. He has the right to order them to fight. If Congress does not allow, they could have said something but they did not.

Anyway, Putin is widely believed to have killed his political opponents. No American President has done that. So you are on the side of evil. You are like Hitler's supporters in WWII. Hitler, like Xi, locked people up in concentration camps, mainly the Falungong and Uighurs. There have been accusations of torture and killings going on to sell their organs.

That's why I fear the left. I know there are very evil people in their camp. Hitler's supporters were people who saw themselves as Socialists as did Hitler. To us, our founder, LKY, was perfectly justified in locking up people like that before they kill people. None of them were killed. Some were released into civil society after promising to reform. Others went to exile, mainly to the UK and China.
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Re: How Much to Oppose Islam?

Post by neverfail » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:50 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:00 pm
Russia's nuclear arsenal is in no way meant to be used -
:lol: :lol: :lol:

That's the most inane statement I have ever seen published on this website.

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Re: How Much to Oppose Islam?

Post by cassowary » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:53 pm

neverfail wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:50 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:00 pm
Russia's nuclear arsenal is in no way meant to be used -
:lol: :lol: :lol:

That's the most inane statement I have ever seen published on this website.
Hahaha. Funny. Keep it up Sertorio. I need a daily laugh.

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I can also say the same thing about US nuclear arsenal. They didn't use it against the USSR in the years before the Russians exploded their bomb. Nor did they use it in the Korean War.
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