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"The election was not stolen, rigged, or fixed,"

Post by Milo » Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:00 am

I note that Lou Dobbs is cancelled now, nothing to do with the suit of course!
Voting software maker Smartmatic sues Fox News and its anchors for $2.7 billion

The suit filed Thursday in New York State Supreme Court also names Trump's lawyers Sidney Powell and Rudolph Giuliani, who were frequent guests on Fox News programs in the weeks after the November election, which the former president insisted was rigged against him to elect President Biden.

Smartmatic, which is based in London, said Trump's lawyers and the Fox News anchors presented false conspiracy theories and accusations about the company's role in the election that damaged its reputation.

"The election was not stolen, rigged, or fixed," the suit states. "These are facts. They are demonstrable and irrefutable. Defendants have always known these facts. They knew Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won the 2020 U.S. election. They knew the election was not stolen. They knew the election was not rigged or fixed. They knew these truths just as they knew the Earth is round and two plus two equals four."

After Fox News hosts presented the claims by Powell and Giuliani with virtually no pushback, Smartmatic officers received hate mail and death threats and clients panicked, the suit said.

"The company’s reputation for providing transparent, auditable, and secure election technology and software was irreparably harmed," the suit said. "Overnight, Smartmatic went from an under-the-radar election technology and software company with a track record of success to the villain in [the] Defendants’ disinformation campaign."

A statement from Fox News Media denied any wrongdoing.

“Fox News Media is committed to providing the full context of every story with in-depth reporting and clear opinion," the company said. "We are proud of our 2020 election coverage and will vigorously defend this meritless lawsuit in court.”

Fox News had been warned that Smartmatic was considering legal action and issued a video "fact check" that had a voting expert dispute many of the claims presented on its programs.

This story originally appeared in Los Angeles Times.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-BB1doOJP

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Re: "The election was not stolen, rigged, or fixed,"

Post by Apollonius » Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:10 pm

The German Supreme Court ruled some time ago that machine casting and counting of votes is unreliable.

The Netherlands likewise counts votes by hand.

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Re: "The election was stolen, rigged, and fixed,"

Post by Doc » Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:21 pm

Milo wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:00 am
I note that Lou Dobbs is cancelled now, nothing to do with the suit of course!
Voting software maker Smartmatic sues Fox News and its anchors for $2.7 billion

The suit filed Thursday in New York State Supreme Court also names Trump's lawyers Sidney Powell and Rudolph Giuliani, who were frequent guests on Fox News programs in the weeks after the November election, which the former president insisted was rigged against him to elect President Biden.

Smartmatic, which is based in London, said Trump's lawyers and the Fox News anchors presented false conspiracy theories and accusations about the company's role in the election that damaged its reputation.

"The election was not stolen, rigged, or fixed," the suit states. "These are facts. They are demonstrable and irrefutable. Defendants have always known these facts. They knew Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won the 2020 U.S. election. They knew the election was not stolen. They knew the election was not rigged or fixed. They knew these truths just as they knew the Earth is round and two plus two equals four."

After Fox News hosts presented the claims by Powell and Giuliani with virtually no pushback, Smartmatic officers received hate mail and death threats and clients panicked, the suit said.

"The company’s reputation for providing transparent, auditable, and secure election technology and software was irreparably harmed," the suit said. "Overnight, Smartmatic went from an under-the-radar election technology and software company with a track record of success to the villain in [the] Defendants’ disinformation campaign."

A statement from Fox News Media denied any wrongdoing.

“Fox News Media is committed to providing the full context of every story with in-depth reporting and clear opinion," the company said. "We are proud of our 2020 election coverage and will vigorously defend this meritless lawsuit in court.”

Fox News had been warned that Smartmatic was considering legal action and issued a video "fact check" that had a voting expert dispute many of the claims presented on its programs.

This story originally appeared in Los Angeles Times.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-BB1doOJP
OK As i recall smartmatic's total sale for the last 3 years was $120 million Not profit just the total sales. Under American libel law damages have to be shown. Suing for $2.7 billion with $40 million in sales per year means that this suit is frivolous at the point that they sued for $2.7 billion. At least 67.5 times and certainly closer to 168.75 times the actual damages.

Dismissed.


BTW Time Magazine has already laid out the story of how the election was stolen. The spun it of course. But the old adage it true. Democrats can't help bragging about their crimes.

Context:


https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election
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Re: "The election was stolen, rigged, and fixed,"

Post by Milo » Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:02 am

Doc wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:21 pm
Milo wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:00 am
I note that Lou Dobbs is cancelled now, nothing to do with the suit of course!
Voting software maker Smartmatic sues Fox News and its anchors for $2.7 billion

The suit filed Thursday in New York State Supreme Court also names Trump's lawyers Sidney Powell and Rudolph Giuliani, who were frequent guests on Fox News programs in the weeks after the November election, which the former president insisted was rigged against him to elect President Biden.

Smartmatic, which is based in London, said Trump's lawyers and the Fox News anchors presented false conspiracy theories and accusations about the company's role in the election that damaged its reputation.

"The election was not stolen, rigged, or fixed," the suit states. "These are facts. They are demonstrable and irrefutable. Defendants have always known these facts. They knew Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won the 2020 U.S. election. They knew the election was not stolen. They knew the election was not rigged or fixed. They knew these truths just as they knew the Earth is round and two plus two equals four."

After Fox News hosts presented the claims by Powell and Giuliani with virtually no pushback, Smartmatic officers received hate mail and death threats and clients panicked, the suit said.

"The company’s reputation for providing transparent, auditable, and secure election technology and software was irreparably harmed," the suit said. "Overnight, Smartmatic went from an under-the-radar election technology and software company with a track record of success to the villain in [the] Defendants’ disinformation campaign."

A statement from Fox News Media denied any wrongdoing.

“Fox News Media is committed to providing the full context of every story with in-depth reporting and clear opinion," the company said. "We are proud of our 2020 election coverage and will vigorously defend this meritless lawsuit in court.”

Fox News had been warned that Smartmatic was considering legal action and issued a video "fact check" that had a voting expert dispute many of the claims presented on its programs.

This story originally appeared in Los Angeles Times.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-BB1doOJP
OK As i recall smartmatic's total sale for the last 3 years was $120 million Not profit just the total sales. Under American libel law damages have to be shown. Suing for $2.7 billion with $40 million in sales per year means that this suit is frivolous at the point that they sued for $2.7 billion. At least 67.5 times and certainly closer to 168.75 times the actual damages.

Dismissed.


BTW Time Magazine has already laid out the story of how the election was stolen. The spun it of course. But the old adage it true. Democrats can't help bragging about their crimes.

Context:


https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election
If the courts dismissed matters because of exaggerated damages no suit would succeed!

And the complaint that your opponents figured out a better conspiracy than yours is just sour grapes.

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Re: "The election was stolen, rigged, and fixed,"

Post by Doc » Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:33 am

Milo wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:02 am
Doc wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:21 pm
Milo wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:00 am
I note that Lou Dobbs is cancelled now, nothing to do with the suit of course!
Voting software maker Smartmatic sues Fox News and its anchors for $2.7 billion

The suit filed Thursday in New York State Supreme Court also names Trump's lawyers Sidney Powell and Rudolph Giuliani, who were frequent guests on Fox News programs in the weeks after the November election, which the former president insisted was rigged against him to elect President Biden.

Smartmatic, which is based in London, said Trump's lawyers and the Fox News anchors presented false conspiracy theories and accusations about the company's role in the election that damaged its reputation.

"The election was not stolen, rigged, or fixed," the suit states. "These are facts. They are demonstrable and irrefutable. Defendants have always known these facts. They knew Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won the 2020 U.S. election. They knew the election was not stolen. They knew the election was not rigged or fixed. They knew these truths just as they knew the Earth is round and two plus two equals four."

After Fox News hosts presented the claims by Powell and Giuliani with virtually no pushback, Smartmatic officers received hate mail and death threats and clients panicked, the suit said.

"The company’s reputation for providing transparent, auditable, and secure election technology and software was irreparably harmed," the suit said. "Overnight, Smartmatic went from an under-the-radar election technology and software company with a track record of success to the villain in [the] Defendants’ disinformation campaign."

A statement from Fox News Media denied any wrongdoing.

“Fox News Media is committed to providing the full context of every story with in-depth reporting and clear opinion," the company said. "We are proud of our 2020 election coverage and will vigorously defend this meritless lawsuit in court.”

Fox News had been warned that Smartmatic was considering legal action and issued a video "fact check" that had a voting expert dispute many of the claims presented on its programs.

This story originally appeared in Los Angeles Times.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-BB1doOJP
OK As i recall smartmatic's total sale for the last 3 years was $120 million Not profit just the total sales. Under American libel law damages have to be shown. Suing for $2.7 billion with $40 million in sales per year means that this suit is frivolous at the point that they sued for $2.7 billion. At least 67.5 times and certainly closer to 168.75 times the actual damages.

Dismissed.


BTW Time Magazine has already laid out the story of how the election was stolen. The spun it of course. But the old adage it true. Democrats can't help bragging about their crimes.

Context:


https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election
If the courts dismissed matters because of exaggerated damages no suit would succeed!

And the complaint that your opponents figured out a better conspiracy than yours is just sour grapes.
Which in no way addresses what I posted. You need to do better than that Milo.
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Re: "The election was not stolen, rigged, or fixed,"

Post by lzzrdgrrl » Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:46 am

The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

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In a way, Trump was right.

There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs. Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans. The pact was formalized in a terse, little-noticed joint statement of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and AFL-CIO published on Election Day. Both sides would come to see it as a sort of implicit bargain–inspired by the summer’s massive, sometimes destructive racial-justice protests–in which the forces of labor came together with the forces of capital to keep the peace and oppose Trump’s assault on democracy.
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-el ... _-99aR8VA8

The time will come. And when it does, just repeat their words verbatim back at them.....
I have a certain notoriety among the lesser gods........

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Re: "The election was not stolen, rigged, or fixed,"

Post by Milo » Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:52 am

lzzrdgrrl wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:46 am
The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

Image
In a way, Trump was right.

There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs. Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans. The pact was formalized in a terse, little-noticed joint statement of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and AFL-CIO published on Election Day. Both sides would come to see it as a sort of implicit bargain–inspired by the summer’s massive, sometimes destructive racial-justice protests–in which the forces of labor came together with the forces of capital to keep the peace and oppose Trump’s assault on democracy.
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-el ... _-99aR8VA8

The time will come. And when it does, just repeat their words verbatim back at them.....
But all that happened AFTER the election.

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Re: "The election was not stolen, rigged, or fixed,"

Post by lzzrdgrrl » Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:01 pm

Milo wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:52 am
But all that happened AFTER the election.
This whole movement was in motion well before the election, setting up no later than 2019 as reported by Molly:
Trump’s election in 2016–credited in part to his unusual strength among the sort of blue collar white voters who once dominated the AFL-CIO–prompted Podhorzer to question his assumptions about voter behavior. He began circulating weekly number-crunching memos to a small circle of allies and hosting strategy sessions in D.C. But when he began to worry about the election itself, he didn’t want to seem paranoid. It was only after months of research that he introduced his concerns in his newsletter in October 2019. The usual tools of data, analytics and polling would not be sufficient in a situation where the President himself was trying to disrupt the election, he wrote. “Most of our planning takes us through Election Day,” he noted. “But, we are not prepared for the two most likely outcomes”–Trump losing and refusing to concede, and Trump winning the Electoral College (despite losing the popular vote) by corrupting the voting process in key states. “We desperately need to systematically ‘red-team’ this election so that we can anticipate and plan for the worst we know will be coming our way.”
It's rather liberating when you think about it. A number of shibboleths may now be set aside:

Nothing was stolen if there was nothing to steal......

When it comes to being stabbed in the back, it's not an assassination, it's a birthday party. Don't expect justice when you're the menu item in a feeding frenzy.......

Close doesn't count if you're written out of the script. Reality isn't determined by human actors in a causational world of physical laws of cause and effect. It happens in a script-writer's storming session above and beyond the slug-like mentalities deluded by the nonsense they are legitimate human beings. DJT was the wrong character miscast for the role he was supposed to play and he needed to be written out of the script and retconned from the intended storyverse.......

When you control the narrative, you control reality and Mary Sue has nothing on the Hand that holds the Reins. To be on the wrong side of history is to be damned and then removed from existence. This Secular version of Judgement Day makes the harshest version of Jehovah look like some weak-ass soy boy in comparison......
I have a certain notoriety among the lesser gods........

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Re: "The election was not stolen, rigged, or fixed,"

Post by Milo » Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:25 pm

lzzrdgrrl wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:01 pm
Milo wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:52 am
But all that happened AFTER the election.
This whole movement was in motion well before the election, setting up no later than 2019 as reported by Molly:
Trump’s election in 2016–credited in part to his unusual strength among the sort of blue collar white voters who once dominated the AFL-CIO–prompted Podhorzer to question his assumptions about voter behavior. He began circulating weekly number-crunching memos to a small circle of allies and hosting strategy sessions in D.C. But when he began to worry about the election itself, he didn’t want to seem paranoid. It was only after months of research that he introduced his concerns in his newsletter in October 2019. The usual tools of data, analytics and polling would not be sufficient in a situation where the President himself was trying to disrupt the election, he wrote. “Most of our planning takes us through Election Day,” he noted. “But, we are not prepared for the two most likely outcomes”–Trump losing and refusing to concede, and Trump winning the Electoral College (despite losing the popular vote) by corrupting the voting process in key states. “We desperately need to systematically ‘red-team’ this election so that we can anticipate and plan for the worst we know will be coming our way.”
It's rather liberating when you think about it. A number of shibboleths may now be set aside:

Nothing was stolen if there was nothing to steal......

When it comes to being stabbed in the back, it's not an assassination, it's a birthday party. Don't expect justice when you're the menu item in a feeding frenzy.......

Close doesn't count if you're written out of the script. Reality isn't determined by human actors in a causational world of physical laws of cause and effect. It happens in a script-writer's storming session above and beyond the slug-like mentalities deluded by the nonsense they are legitimate human beings. DJT was the wrong character miscast for the role he was supposed to play and he needed to be written out of the script and retconned from the intended storyverse.......

When you control the narrative, you control reality and Mary Sue has nothing on the Hand that holds the Reins. To be on the wrong side of history is to be damned and then removed from existence. This Secular version of Judgement Day makes the harshest version of Jehovah look like some weak-ass soy boy in comparison......
Wow, people who opposed Trump collaborated to win the election for their side! It's not fair, say those who collaborated to win the election for THEIR side.


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Re: "The election was not stolen, rigged, or fixed,"

Post by lzzrdgrrl » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:03 pm

Milo wrote:Wow, people who opposed Trump collaborated to win the election for their side! It's not fair, say those who collaborated to win the election for THEIR side.
Fair has nothing to do with it. In a struggle between factions, one side was naïve and unfamiliar with the terrain and the other side knew what it was doing. It's a way of nature with the cat eating the bird, but I do still have sympathies for the bird.......
I have a certain notoriety among the lesser gods........

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