Pandemic and integrity

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Pandemic and integrity

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Re: Pandemic and integrity

Post by Milo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:27 am

You're a big fan of videos by people who don't know what they're talking about.

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Re: Pandemic and integrity

Post by Ellen » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:41 am

Glad you said it first, Milo. What a lot of nothing. There was almost no substance to anything he said, just slogans about integrity and regeneration.

The US does not have a handle on the epidemic, actually nobody does except Singapore and New Zealand and maybe a few other smaller countries.

And the long-term damage done to the economy and international trading relationships right now is unknowable.

Returning manufacturing to countries that had outsourced it to China may be a very big game changer in the world economy over the next few years, and the undoing of the borderless world. Good. But this is a big change and for the globetrotters who believe that borders are bad and that global free trade is the solution to poverty in the third world and harmless at home, it will be a big bucket of cold water in their faces.

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Re: Pandemic and integrity

Post by neverfail » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:28 pm

Ellen wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:41 am
Glad you said it first, Milo. What a lot of nothing. There was almost no substance to anything he said, just slogans about integrity and regeneration.

The US does not have a handle on the epidemic, actually nobody does except Singapore and New Zealand and maybe a few other smaller countries.

And the long-term damage done to the economy and international trading relationships right now is unknowable.

Returning manufacturing to countries that had outsourced it to China may be a very big game changer in the world economy over the next few years, and the undoing of the borderless world. Good. But this is a big change and for the globetrotters who believe that borders are bad and that global free trade is the solution to poverty in the third world and harmless at home, it will be a big bucket of cold water in their faces.
It might surprise and delight you to know that I agree with the above.

I just hope and pray that (led by the USA as "global trendsetter" in these things) the world does not throw the baby out with the bathwater in overreaction: turning the move back towards comparatively closed borders into an indiscriminate religious passion - the way that the drive for more open borders and enhanced international commerce and trade of recent decades was. Just because some of that was good and benefical they wrongly presumed that unlimited amounts must be even better. Let us hope that this time they will be more discerning in their policy choices..

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Re: Pandemic and integrity

Post by Doc » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:24 pm

Milo wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:27 am
You're a big fan of videos by people who don't know what they're talking about.
Really?
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Jan24th the CCP had not yet admitted that the CCP Virus involved human to human transmission

The CCP LIED (said there was not Human to Human transmission while it bought 2.2 Billion masks, half the world's annual production from around the world and shipped them back to China)
THE WHO LIED(LIED at the orders of the CCP. Also run by a corrupt communist. )
Fauci LIED(about masks Said mask were useless, until he admitted he lied about it, because he did not believe there were enough mask to go around.Never imagining that the primary means of transmission ,98% is through the air)
The MSM LIED (and still are they forgot how to tell the truth about anything some time ago)
Big Social Media lied (That censors anyone that calls out all the above lies)

945,165 people have died(so far)

Big Phrama came up with drugs that cost $3,500 per patient. That managed to shorten the course of the infection in some patients. Unfortunately there is no peer reviewed evidence that it saved any lives.

The Democrats and the MSM Lied about the drug that was 1/7,000 of the cost Peer reviewed studies were killed. Now it turns out there was a fat thumb(s) on the scales. causing months of delays in using a safe and effective treatment(see John Campbell video below) 100,000s died

Another video from a guy that has done free teaching videos to save lives for med personnel in the third world for the last 40 years. That only reports on peer reviewed studies:



Another video from one of the top coronavirus research virologists in the world Who left her homeland at the risk of being imprisoned and retribution being taken out on her family to warn the world:



But you are right. With at least 0ne million dead (so far) I should have titled this thread "Pandemic and lack of Integrity"

THough given the number of leaked secret CCP documents I would say someone has some integrity.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/all-ccp-v ... 58235.html
All CCP Virus-Related Information Considered State Secrets in China: Leaked Classified Documents
By Nicole Hao
May 21, 2020 Updated: May 21, 2020
Let that headline sink in a bit.
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Re: Pandemic and integrity

Post by Sertorio » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:00 am

neverfail wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:28 pm

I just hope and pray that (led by the USA as "global trendsetter" in these things) the world does not throw the baby out with the bathwater in overreaction: turning the move back towards comparatively closed borders into an indiscriminate religious passion - the way that the drive for more open borders and enhanced international commerce and trade of recent decades was. Just because some of that was good and benefical they wrongly presumed that unlimited amounts must be even better. Let us hope that this time they will be more discerning in their policy choices..
Depending on circumstances, free trade can be good or it can be bad. Rather than being fully in favour or fully against free trade, we must learn to understand what makes free trade good or bad. The trouble is that countries which most benefit from free trade try to prevent others adopting that measure of protection which is necessary for their economies to grow. Economics can easily tell us what should be done, but politics as the instrument of selfishness is stronger than economic common sense...

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Re: Pandemic and integrity

Post by Doc » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:04 am

Ellen wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:41 am
Glad you said it first, Milo. What a lot of nothing. There was almost no substance to anything he said, just slogans about integrity and regeneration.

The US does not have a handle on the epidemic, actually nobody does except Singapore and New Zealand and maybe a few other smaller countries.

And the long-term damage done to the economy and international trading relationships right now is unknowable.

Returning manufacturing to countries that had outsourced it to China may be a very big game changer in the world economy over the next few years, and the undoing of the borderless world. Good. But this is a big change and for the globetrotters who believe that borders are bad and that global free trade is the solution to poverty in the third world and harmless at home, it will be a big bucket of cold water in their faces.
The globalists never really believed that it "was harmless at home" They were in it for the huge profits. Out of every $1,000 in retail sales they got in the US they paid the Chinese $100. The flip side is that much of that"$100" was stolen to line the pockets of CCP officials. "To be rich is glorious" indeed.

The indications I am seeing is that XI wants to to return China to something like it was during Mao's reign. The CCP has even started seizing the property of the rich.Look at Jackie Chan. as a Hong Konger he most definitely supported the CCP there. Yet his reward is the CCP seized his property. There are also signs that XI plans to spread Hong Kongers that support democracy to winds by moving them to other parts of China if not concentration camps.(anyone here believe the CCP has not at least considered this?) Then replacing them in HK with people more loyal to the party.

Conversely there seems to be a push within the younger generation of the CCP to overthrow it because they no longer believe it can be reformed. Which is probably why XI is pushing for even more power internally. I did see something about one of his deputies has been accused of corruption. And conceivably Jackie Chan lost his property because the CCP bureaucracy is striking back at XI. This could be another faction within the CCP or it could be.
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