China gets nasty with Australia.

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Re: China gets nasty with Australia.

Post by Milo » Mon May 11, 2020 10:30 am

Sertorio wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:12 am
Milo wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:08 am
Sertorio wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 7:30 am
neverfail wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 6:26 am
Sertorio wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 2:25 am


Faced with the pandemic, who cares about the cause and spread of the Coronavirus? Once the crisis is over that is an issue which may deserve our attention, but not now. And certainly not when the idea is not finding the truth but embarrassing China. If Australia pays the price of such an idiocy, you will know who to blame...
Our Prime Minister has made it clear that he only wants an enquiry - NOT the apportioning of blame.

The USA has currently moved into electioneering mode so now over there anything goes. But Australia's national election is now almost one year behind us so our government is currently free to handle issues with greater integrity and sobriety.

If the PRC government has nothing to hide then it has nothing to be embarrased about.
You are closer to China than I am, so you probably realize that being called a suspect by the same people who mistreated China for hundreds of years may not be acceptable. Even if the Chinese were careless, they didn't unleash the pandemic on purpose, and they were the first victims of the disease. What is the purpose of the enquiry? What is to be gained from it? Does anybody expect China to accept any monetary liability for the damage suffered by the whole world? No. The purpose is to humiliate China, and China, like the Jews, will say NEVER AGAIN! to that. So, let's work together to solve the crisis and find a workable vaccine, instead of insisting on blaming China. This is not an issue between individuals, it is an issue involving sovereign states. So let's treat each other as such.
Damn those Aboriginals for their mistreatment of China!
You are smarter than that. Why do you insist on trying to convince us that you are dumb? Most Australians come from countries which for a long time exploited China...
So do many Chinese.

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Re: China gets nasty with Australia.

Post by Sertorio » Mon May 11, 2020 10:44 am

Milo wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 10:30 am
Sertorio wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:12 am
Milo wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:08 am
Sertorio wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 7:30 am
neverfail wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 6:26 am
Sertorio wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 2:25 am


Faced with the pandemic, who cares about the cause and spread of the Coronavirus? Once the crisis is over that is an issue which may deserve our attention, but not now. And certainly not when the idea is not finding the truth but embarrassing China. If Australia pays the price of such an idiocy, you will know who to blame...
Our Prime Minister has made it clear that he only wants an enquiry - NOT the apportioning of blame.

The USA has currently moved into electioneering mode so now over there anything goes. But Australia's national election is now almost one year behind us so our government is currently free to handle issues with greater integrity and sobriety.

If the PRC government has nothing to hide then it has nothing to be embarrased about.
You are closer to China than I am, so you probably realize that being called a suspect by the same people who mistreated China for hundreds of years may not be acceptable. Even if the Chinese were careless, they didn't unleash the pandemic on purpose, and they were the first victims of the disease. What is the purpose of the enquiry? What is to be gained from it? Does anybody expect China to accept any monetary liability for the damage suffered by the whole world? No. The purpose is to humiliate China, and China, like the Jews, will say NEVER AGAIN! to that. So, let's work together to solve the crisis and find a workable vaccine, instead of insisting on blaming China. This is not an issue between individuals, it is an issue involving sovereign states. So let's treat each other as such.
Damn those Aboriginals for their mistreatment of China!
You are smarter than that. Why do you insist on trying to convince us that you are dumb? Most Australians come from countries which for a long time exploited China...
So do many Chinese.
So many Chinese exploited China?... No wonder China has a communist regime... :roll:

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Re: China gets nasty with Australia.

Post by neverfail » Mon May 11, 2020 4:51 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 7:30 am

You are closer to China than I am, so you probably realize that being called a suspect by the same people who mistreated China for hundreds of years may not be acceptable. Even if the Chinese were careless, they didn't unleash the pandemic on purpose, and they were the first victims of the disease. What is the purpose of the enquiry? What is to be gained from it? Does anybody expect China to accept any monetary liability for the damage suffered by the whole world? No. The purpose is to humiliate China, and China, like the Jews, will say NEVER AGAIN! to that. So, let's work together to solve the crisis and find a workable vaccine, instead of insisting on blaming China. This is not an issue between individuals, it is an issue involving sovereign states. So let's treat each other as such.
Now, don't use back reference to the Opium Wars to excuse the excesses and misdeeds of the ruling party in today's China. That won't wash!

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Re: China gets nasty with Australia.

Post by cassowary » Mon May 11, 2020 4:53 pm

neverfail wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 6:26 am
Sertorio wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 2:25 am


Faced with the pandemic, who cares about the cause and spread of the Coronavirus? Once the crisis is over that is an issue which may deserve our attention, but not now. And certainly not when the idea is not finding the truth but embarrassing China. If Australia pays the price of such an idiocy, you will know who to blame...
Our Prime Minister has made it clear that he only wants an enquiry - NOT the apportioning of blame.

The USA has currently moved into electioneering mode so now over there anything goes. But Australia's national election is now almost one year behind us so our government is currently free to handle issues with greater integrity and sobriety.

If the PRC government has nothing to hide then it has nothing to be embarrased about.
Obviously it has. For a dictatorship, it’s more than embarrassing. The TOP guys could lose their power, their personal wealth and their mistresses.

That’s what it all boils down to. Always has and always will be.
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Re: China gets nasty with Australia.

Post by neverfail » Tue May 12, 2020 5:52 am

cassowary wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 4:53 pm

Obviously it has. For a dictatorship, it’s more than embarrassing. The TOP guys could lose their power, their personal wealth and their mistresses.
You forgot to mention that they could lose their lives as well?

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Re: China gets nasty with Australia.

Post by cassowary » Tue May 12, 2020 8:04 am

neverfail wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 5:52 am
cassowary wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 4:53 pm

Obviously it has. For a dictatorship, it’s more than embarrassing. The TOP guys could lose their power, their personal wealth and their mistresses.
You forgot to mention that they could lose their lives as well?
Oh yes, you are right.
The Imp :D

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Re: "Death by a thousand cuts" for Australia?

Post by neverfail » Tue May 12, 2020 4:29 pm

As the next step in warning our government to back off; the PRC has suspended imports of red meat from four abbitiors in eastern Australia - costing this country additional hundreds of millions in export sales. Their excuse this time is "packaging problems".

Strange, it never seemed to bother them before.

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Re: "Death by a thousand cuts" for Australia?

Post by Sertorio » Tue May 12, 2020 5:18 pm

neverfail wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 4:29 pm
As the next step in warning our government to back off; the PRC has suspended imports of red meat from four abbitiors in eastern Australia - costing this country additional hundreds of millions in export sales. Their excuse this time is "packaging problems".

Strange, it never seemed to bother them before.
Australia could have avoided it by not doing everything the US demands from it and by not insisting on China being responsible for the coronavirus pandemic...

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Re: "Death by a thousand cuts" for Australia?

Post by cassowary » Tue May 12, 2020 6:40 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 5:18 pm
neverfail wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 4:29 pm
As the next step in warning our government to back off; the PRC has suspended imports of red meat from four abbitiors in eastern Australia - costing this country additional hundreds of millions in export sales. Their excuse this time is "packaging problems".

Strange, it never seemed to bother them before.
Australia could have avoided it by not doing everything the US demands from it and by not insisting on China being responsible for the coronavirus pandemic...
In short take orders from Beijing. Be a part of a new Chinese empire.
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Re: "Death by a thousand cuts" for Australia?

Post by neverfail » Wed May 13, 2020 12:37 am

Sertorio wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 5:18 pm
neverfail wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 4:29 pm
As the next step in warning our government to back off; the PRC has suspended imports of red meat from four abbitiors in eastern Australia - costing this country additional hundreds of millions in export sales. Their excuse this time is "packaging problems".

Strange, it never seemed to bother them before.
Australia could have avoided it by not doing everything the US demands from it and by not insisting on China being responsible for the coronavirus pandemic...
In none of his recent speeches or other public utterances has our Prime Minister, Scott Morrison, apportioned blame on China. All he has asked for is an enquiry.

The over-the-top reaction from Beijing reflects the paranoia of somebody with a guilty conscience who fears being found out.

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