May 9, 1945

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May 9, 1945

Post by Sertorio » Sat May 09, 2020 9:10 am

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Not an ideological statement. Just to remind those who have forgotten who actually defeated Hitler...

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Re: May 9, 1945

Post by Doc » Sat May 09, 2020 9:25 am

Sertorio wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 9:10 am
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Not an ideological statement. Just to remind those who have forgotten who actually defeated Hitler...
I have a book somewhere that pictures cities from all over the world at the end of WWII including this one. The destruction was pretty much complete.
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Re: May 9, 1945

Post by neverfail » Sat May 09, 2020 8:25 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_co ... rld_War_II

Without the Allied Arctic Sea convoys it is likely that the USSR would have gone under to the Nazi invasion - especially before the Battle of Stalingrad.

Hitler arguably lost the War by picking fights with too many enemies for Germany to cope with.

He also made a poor choice of Axis allies. Fascist italy proved hopeless on the battlefield while Japan, though strong and capable, was just to far away to be helpful.

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Re: May 9, 1945

Post by Milo » Sat May 09, 2020 11:31 pm

My father signed up in 45, he was 17.

He went east with the RN and wound up in Singapore for the surrender.

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Re: May 9, 1945

Post by neverfail » Sun May 10, 2020 1:22 pm

Milo wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 11:31 pm
My father signed up in 45, he was 17.

He went east with the RN and wound up in Singapore for the surrender.
That of course was the surrender of the Japanese to the British in 1945 - not the surrender of Singapore by the British to the Japanese by the British in 1942.

My dad along with 3,000 other reservists was called up in 1940 and sent to New Guinea to form the nucleus of our army garrison up there. He spent most of the War in NG having been meantime commissioned as an officer (promoted out of the ranks) in the regular Army.

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Re: May 9, 1945

Post by Doc » Mon May 11, 2020 9:54 am

neverfail wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 8:25 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_co ... rld_War_II

Without the Allied Arctic Sea convoys it is likely that the USSR would have gone under to the Nazi invasion - especially before the Battle of Stalingrad.
The Center of Stalingrad at the end of the battle of Stalingrad:
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Hitler arguably lost the War by picking fights with too many enemies for Germany to cope with.

He also made a poor choice of Axis allies. Fascist italy proved hopeless on the battlefield while Japan, though strong and capable, was just to far away to be helpful.
“"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros

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Re: May 9, 1945

Post by neverfail » Mon May 11, 2020 5:02 pm

Hey Sertorio:

Are you aware that while the Soviet Red army (along with the civilian population of the USSR) had to bear the brunt against the invading German (and auxilliary Axis ) forces during the Second World War - the Soviet Union did not contribute at all to the defeat of Imperial Japan?

No! The Anglo-Saxon allies had to do that by themselves.

Before belittling the Allies and placing the USSR high up on a pedistal; it is worth bearing in mind that the USSR had the tactical advantage of needing to fight only one war against one powerful enemy on one war front only while the Anglo powers had to fight two seperate wars against two of them similtaneously.

A big ask!

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Re: May 9, 1945

Post by neverfail » Mon May 11, 2020 5:15 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 9:10 am
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Sertorio:

Do you notice that the Soviet soldier (centre), apparently an officer from the look of his cap, is wearing a wristwatch?

He probably nicked that from a hapless German civilian.

The Red Army soldiers were like a plague of locusts in dispossing the inhabitants of the parts of Germany that they overrun of their personal effects and remaining treasures - no distinction being made between Nazis and non-Nazis.

They also indulged in the mass rape of German women - the biggest mass rape in recorded history apparently.

Socialism is apparently useless in conveying to its alleged beneficiaries the need to comply with good moral and ethical standards. To go by the way that Soviet troops conducted themselves in the conquered lands of east Germany and eastern Europe in the immediate aftermath enforced "socialism" seems to have turned the Soviet Union into a society of criminals: constrained from tearing each other apart only by fear of the repressive power of the Soviet state.

I hope that one day you will snap out of your reverie of make believe and become aware that you worship a false god. :)

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Re: May 9, 1945

Post by cassowary » Wed May 13, 2020 3:21 am

neverfail wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 8:25 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_co ... rld_War_II

Without the Allied Arctic Sea convoys it is likely that the USSR would have gone under to the Nazi invasion - especially before the Battle of Stalingrad.

Hitler arguably lost the War by picking fights with too many enemies for Germany to cope with.

He also made a poor choice of Axis allies. Fascist italy proved hopeless on the battlefield while Japan, though strong and capable, was just to far away to be helpful.
I agree. As usual, Sertorio wants to glorify Communism.
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Re: May 9, 1945

Post by Sertorio » Wed May 13, 2020 4:13 am

cassowary wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 3:21 am
neverfail wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 8:25 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_co ... rld_War_II

Without the Allied Arctic Sea convoys it is likely that the USSR would have gone under to the Nazi invasion - especially before the Battle of Stalingrad.

Hitler arguably lost the War by picking fights with too many enemies for Germany to cope with.

He also made a poor choice of Axis allies. Fascist italy proved hopeless on the battlefield while Japan, though strong and capable, was just to far away to be helpful.
I agree. As usual, Sertorio wants to glorify Communism.
I don't give a damn about communism. I care about the fact that Russia helped saving Europe from a monster, and that now is the time for Russia and Europe getting together to save us both from another - although different - monster, the oligarchy which controls the US and threatens us all with unending wars.

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