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Re: Pandemic

Post by Doc » Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:47 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:22 pm
neverfail wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:13 pm
Thanks for sharing that insight Sertoroi. But that is long term stuff. The probable spread of Coronavirus into a pandemic in this country that will overwealm their medical and hospital resources (as in Italy only many times worse) is immediate.

Sertorioo, even if Brazil had a government that is closer to the people than the present one they would have an uphill struggle. Just to reduce the coming death toll. But a government that would strip away the minimum protection the Amazon Indians were getting to open up the region up to "development" (i.e. lawless exploitation) by the greedy corporations is surely not going to care about what happens to Brazil's tens of millions of poor.
Yes. I agree with you on that.

Social Isolation in Brasil:





This isn't to criticize Brazilians Just they are a very sociable people. This is going to be especially hard on them.
“"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros

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Re: Pandemic

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“"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros

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Re: Pandemic

Post by Sertorio » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:49 am

Russia Continues Sending Aircraft With Specialists, Supplies to Italy
https://sputniknews.com/world/202003231 ... -to-italy/

MOSCOW (Sputnik) - The eighth and ninth Russian military aircraft with specialists and supplies to help Italy fight the coronavirus have departed from the Moscow region, the Russian Defence Ministry informs.

The Il-76 military transport aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces took off from the Chkalovsky Airport in the Moscow region on Monday morning, the ministry said. They are headed to the Pratica di Mare Air Base in Italy.

In a separate statement, the Russian Defence Ministry said that Russia's third and fourth military aircraft sent to Italy had arrived at the di Mare air base. In a later statement on Monday the ministry said that Russia's fifth plane had arrived at the base.

Earlier, it was reported the first and second Il-76 planes sent by Russia to Italy had arrived at the Pratica di Mare base.

According to the Russian Defence Ministry, Russian specialists will start providing help to Italy in the fight against COVID-19 after coordinating the specific regions that need the assistance.

Italian Foreign Minister Luigi Di Maio met the Russian military specialists and virologists who arrived at the Pratica di Mare air base on Sunday night.

On Saturday, Russian President Vladimir Putin and Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte discussed the COVID-19 pandemic during phone talks. Putin confirmed Russia's readiness to provide prompt assistance to Italy in the fight against the COVID-19 disease.

Italian Defence Minister Lorenzo Guerini has thanked his Russian counterpart Sergey Shoigu for the help that Russia has provided Italy in the fight against the coronavirus.

The Russian Defence Ministry said on Saturday that Russia was going to send medical virologists, doctors, medical equipment and vehicles for aerosol disinfection to Italy to assist it in the fight against the coronavirus disease (COVID-19).

According to the Johns Hopkins University count, there are currently over 59,000 coronavirus cases registered in Italy and more than 5,400 confirmed deaths from COVID-19 in that country.
Maybe now Europe will realize who its friends are. What help has the US sent to Italy?...

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Re: Pandemic

Post by neverfail » Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:15 am

Sertorio wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:49 am


Maybe now Europe will realize who its friends are. What help has the US sent to Italy?...
What help can the USA send? It is scrambling to cope with its own epidemic.

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Re: Pandemic

Post by Sertorio » Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:22 am

neverfail wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:15 am
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:49 am


Maybe now Europe will realize who its friends are. What help has the US sent to Italy?...
What help can the USA send? It is scrambling to cope with its own epidemic.
Russia, which lives in the same planet as the rest of us, could send help. Could it be that Russia cares and the US doesn't?...

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Re: Pandemic

Post by Sertorio » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:00 am

History of Pandemics


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Re: Pandemic

Post by neverfail » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:45 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:22 am
neverfail wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:15 am
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:49 am


Maybe now Europe will realize who its friends are. What help has the US sent to Italy?...
What help can the USA send? It is scrambling to cope with its own epidemic.
Russia, which lives in the same planet as the rest of us, could send help. Could it be that Russia cares and the US doesn't?...
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/21/euro ... index.html

Why does Russia, population 146 million, have fewer coronavirus cases than Luxembourg?
Russia (or rather the Putin government) can afford to.

(P.S. don't rely too much on the "caring" factor. Governments "care" all right - about the PR - Image promotion/ point scoring benefits for themselves.)

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Re: Pandemic

Post by Sertorio » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:58 pm

neverfail wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:45 pm

(P.S. don't rely too much on the "caring" factor. Governments "care" all right - about the PR - Image promotion/ point scoring benefits for themselves.)
I don't think that right now Italians will mind if Russia gets a bit propaganda benefit from the aid they send... Funny thing is that the US could benefit in the same way, but they still prefer to ignore Italy's pain... Any way you look at it, Russia comes out looking a lot better than the US. Once the crisis is over do not be surprised if Italy's policies will be more friendly towards Russia that towards the US... It could spell the end of UE's sanctions against Russia...

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Re: Pandemic

Post by Doc » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:32 pm

neverfail wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:45 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:22 am
neverfail wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:15 am
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:49 am


Maybe now Europe will realize who its friends are. What help has the US sent to Italy?...
What help can the USA send? It is scrambling to cope with its own epidemic.
Russia, which lives in the same planet as the rest of us, could send help. Could it be that Russia cares and the US doesn't?...
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/21/euro ... index.html

Why does Russia, population 146 million, have fewer coronavirus cases than Luxembourg?
Russia (or rather the Putin government) can afford to.

(P.S. don't rely too much on the "caring" factor. Governments "care" all right - about the PR - Image promotion/ point scoring benefits for themselves.)
I personally know Russians They say the Russian government has a don't ask don't tell coronavirus policy
“"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros

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Re: Pandemic

Post by Sertorio » Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:45 pm

Doc wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:32 pm
neverfail wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:45 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:22 am
neverfail wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:15 am
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:49 am


Maybe now Europe will realize who its friends are. What help has the US sent to Italy?...
What help can the USA send? It is scrambling to cope with its own epidemic.
Russia, which lives in the same planet as the rest of us, could send help. Could it be that Russia cares and the US doesn't?...
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/21/euro ... index.html

Why does Russia, population 146 million, have fewer coronavirus cases than Luxembourg?
Russia (or rather the Putin government) can afford to.

(P.S. don't rely too much on the "caring" factor. Governments "care" all right - about the PR - Image promotion/ point scoring benefits for themselves.)
I personally know Russians They say the Russian government has a don't ask don't tell coronavirus policy
Facts are facts. Russia helps Italy, the US doesn't. That's all that matters, and it tells everything we need to know about the difference between Russians and Americans.

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