People dragged into quarantine in China

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Re: People dragged into quarantine in China

Post by cassowary » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:27 pm

neverfail wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:50 pm
cassowary wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:13 pm
This will eventually happen in the US, if Bernie Sanders gets elected.
How do you bloody-well know what will happen in the USA if Bernie Sanders is elected?

Did God endow you with the gift of prophecy?

I do not believe so!
Bernie wants Socialism. History shows that Socialism leads to poverty and then dictatorship. Nasty things happen in a dictatorship. That’s what I mean.
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Re: People dragged into quarantine in China

Post by neverfail » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:25 pm

cassowary wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:27 pm
Bernie wants Socialism. History shows that Socialism leads to poverty and then dictatorship. Nasty things happen in a dictatorship. That’s what I mean.

I know what you mean and I can tell you that you are worried over nothing.

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Re: People dragged into quarantine in China

Post by Doc » Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:17 pm

neverfail wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:25 pm
cassowary wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:27 pm
Bernie wants Socialism. History shows that Socialism leads to poverty and then dictatorship. Nasty things happen in a dictatorship. That’s what I mean.

I know what you mean and I can tell you that you are worried over nothing.
Bernie is not going to win. The DNC establishment won't allow it to happen.

“"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros

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Re: What does Bernie Sander's candidacy have to do with China?

Post by neverfail » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:19 am

Doc wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:17 pm

Bernie is not going to win. The DNC establishment won't allow it to happen.
You are likely prophetic in that. Even if he won the entrenched powers-that-be in Washington and elsewhere would likely organised to turn him into a lame duck president from day one.

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Re: People dragged into quarantine in China

Post by cassowary » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:25 am

Doc wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:17 pm
neverfail wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:25 pm
cassowary wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:27 pm
Bernie wants Socialism. History shows that Socialism leads to poverty and then dictatorship. Nasty things happen in a dictatorship. That’s what I mean.

I know what you mean and I can tell you that you are worried over nothing.
Bernie is not going to win. The DNC establishment won't allow it to happen.

That's what the Bernie supporters are saying. I think they are probably right.
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Re: People dragged into quarantine in China

Post by Doc » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:45 am

cassowary wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:25 am
Doc wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:17 pm
neverfail wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:25 pm
cassowary wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:27 pm
Bernie wants Socialism. History shows that Socialism leads to poverty and then dictatorship. Nasty things happen in a dictatorship. That’s what I mean.

I know what you mean and I can tell you that you are worried over nothing.
Bernie is not going to win. The DNC establishment won't allow it to happen.

That's what the Bernie supporters are saying. I think they are probably right.
The problem with Bernie for the DNC establishment, is a Bernie nomination will destroy their political machine. Otherwise they would drop back ten yards and punt the ball away. Then wait until 2024 when Trump is no longer in the running.

But without their machine the DNC *establishment* will lose control of the party and no longer be able to support their political machine. IE the money will not flow. The control will be in the hands of someone else. Nominee Bernie would put his people in control of the DNC. His delegates would push their staff aside in favor of Bernie brohs. The DNC establishment will have no place to go as the RNC establishment has found IE The Never Trumpers. Who are generally those in the republican party that are supported by billionaire oligarchs that are primarily interested in their own financial inter
“"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros

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Re: People dragged into quarantine in China

Post by Milo » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:14 am

Doc wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:45 am
cassowary wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:25 am
Doc wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:17 pm
neverfail wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:25 pm
cassowary wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:27 pm
Bernie wants Socialism. History shows that Socialism leads to poverty and then dictatorship. Nasty things happen in a dictatorship. That’s what I mean.

I know what you mean and I can tell you that you are worried over nothing.
Bernie is not going to win. The DNC establishment won't allow it to happen.

That's what the Bernie supporters are saying. I think they are probably right.
The problem with Bernie for the DNC establishment, is a Bernie nomination will destroy their political machine. Otherwise they would drop back ten yards and punt the ball away. Then wait until 2024 when Trump is no longer in the running.

But without their machine the DNC *establishment* will lose control of the party and no longer be able to support their political machine. IE the money will not flow. The control will be in the hands of someone else. Nominee Bernie would put his people in control of the DNC. His delegates would push their staff aside in favor of Bernie brohs. The DNC establishment will have no place to go as the RNC establishment has found IE The Never Trumpers. Who are generally those in the republican party that are supported by billionaire oligarchs that are primarily interested in their own financial inter
No conspiracy on that scale is possible Doc.

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Re: People dragged into quarantine in China

Post by Doc » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:34 am

Milo wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:14 am
Doc wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:45 am
cassowary wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:25 am
Doc wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:17 pm
neverfail wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:25 pm
cassowary wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:27 pm
Bernie wants Socialism. History shows that Socialism leads to poverty and then dictatorship. Nasty things happen in a dictatorship. That’s what I mean.

I know what you mean and I can tell you that you are worried over nothing.
Bernie is not going to win. The DNC establishment won't allow it to happen.

That's what the Bernie supporters are saying. I think they are probably right.
The problem with Bernie for the DNC establishment, is a Bernie nomination will destroy their political machine. Otherwise they would drop back ten yards and punt the ball away. Then wait until 2024 when Trump is no longer in the running.

But without their machine the DNC *establishment* will lose control of the party and no longer be able to support their political machine. IE the money will not flow. The control will be in the hands of someone else. Nominee Bernie would put his people in control of the DNC. His delegates would push their staff aside in favor of Bernie brohs. The DNC establishment will have no place to go as the RNC establishment has found IE The Never Trumpers. Who are generally those in the republican party that are supported by billionaire oligarchs that are primarily interested in their own financial inter
No conspiracy on that scale is possible Doc.
Not conspiracy so much as group think. They have created an "US vs them" bubble around themselves. So it is self reinforcing.
“"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros

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Re: People dragged into quarantine in China

Post by Doc » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:54 am

Doc wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:34 am
Milo wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:14 am
Doc wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:45 am
cassowary wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:25 am
Doc wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:17 pm
neverfail wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:25 pm



I know what you mean and I can tell you that you are worried over nothing.
Bernie is not going to win. The DNC establishment won't allow it to happen.

That's what the Bernie supporters are saying. I think they are probably right.
The problem with Bernie for the DNC establishment, is a Bernie nomination will destroy their political machine. Otherwise they would drop back ten yards and punt the ball away. Then wait until 2024 when Trump is no longer in the running.

But without their machine the DNC *establishment* will lose control of the party and no longer be able to support their political machine. IE the money will not flow. The control will be in the hands of someone else. Nominee Bernie would put his people in control of the DNC. His delegates would push their staff aside in favor of Bernie brohs. The DNC establishment will have no place to go as the RNC establishment has found IE The Never Trumpers. Who are generally those in the republican party that are supported by billionaire oligarchs that are primarily interested in their own financial inter
No conspiracy on that scale is possible Doc.
Not conspiracy so much as group think. They have created an "US vs them" bubble around themselves. So it is self reinforcing.
And they are still doing it Look at this headline from NPR:

Klobuchar's 3rd Place Finish In New Hampshire 'Shocked The Establishment'

February 12, 202011:36 AM ET

In a crowded field of candidates, Klobuchar carved out a path running as a pragmatic moderate from the Midwest who can consolidate support from liberal and more centrist voters alike.
Message Klobucher: a "pragmatic" "moderate" "liberal" is implied to be "anti-Establishment" WTH is that supposed to mean? This is NPR talking about one of the two candidates the NYT endorsed.
“"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros

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Re: People dragged into quarantine in China

Post by Milo » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:16 am

Doc wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:54 am
Doc wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:34 am
Milo wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:14 am
Doc wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:45 am
cassowary wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:25 am
Doc wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:17 pm


Bernie is not going to win. The DNC establishment won't allow it to happen.

That's what the Bernie supporters are saying. I think they are probably right.
The problem with Bernie for the DNC establishment, is a Bernie nomination will destroy their political machine. Otherwise they would drop back ten yards and punt the ball away. Then wait until 2024 when Trump is no longer in the running.

But without their machine the DNC *establishment* will lose control of the party and no longer be able to support their political machine. IE the money will not flow. The control will be in the hands of someone else. Nominee Bernie would put his people in control of the DNC. His delegates would push their staff aside in favor of Bernie brohs. The DNC establishment will have no place to go as the RNC establishment has found IE The Never Trumpers. Who are generally those in the republican party that are supported by billionaire oligarchs that are primarily interested in their own financial inter
No conspiracy on that scale is possible Doc.
Not conspiracy so much as group think. They have created an "US vs them" bubble around themselves. So it is self reinforcing.
And they are still doing it Look at this headline from NPR:

Klobuchar's 3rd Place Finish In New Hampshire 'Shocked The Establishment'

February 12, 202011:36 AM ET

In a crowded field of candidates, Klobuchar carved out a path running as a pragmatic moderate from the Midwest who can consolidate support from liberal and more centrist voters alike.
Message Klobucher: a "pragmatic" "moderate" "liberal" is implied to be "anti-Establishment" WTH is that supposed to mean? This is NPR talking about one of the two candidates the NYT endorsed.
Somewhere In the boardrooms of the Democratic Party there are a bunch of consultants who think that only Joe Biden can win. Apparently this is because he's a doddering old man and can somehow get the black vote, despite not being black himself. It's absurd. I have no idea why this idea has such traction with them. Of course, he's been in Congress for a very long time so he knows everyone and knows everything about everyone, So there's that.

But at the end of the day what kind of a progressive candidate is pro life and against legalizing pot? The candidate you run the has to actually stand for something different from the other guy.

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