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The Pope is a Communist

Post by Sertorio » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:34 am

Pope Francis endorses wealth redistribution, calls for an end to tax cuts for the ‘richest people’

Pope Francis endorses wealth redistribution, calls for an end to tax cuts for the ‘richest people’

Pope Francis blasted the practice of tax cuts for the rich as part of a “structure of sin” and lamented the fact that “billions of dollars” end up in “tax haven accounts” instead of funding “healthcare and education.” Speaking at the seminar set up by the Pontifical Academy for Social Sciences the Pope criticized “the richest people” for receiving “repeated tax cuts” in the name of “investment and development.” These “tax haven accounts” impede “the possibility of the dignified and sustained development of all social agents,” claims the Pope.

He added that “the poor increase around us” as poverty is rising around the world. This poverty can be ended if the wealthiest gave more.

“The 50 richest people in the world have an equity equivalent to 2.2 billion dollars. Those fifty people alone could finance the medical care and education of every poor child in the world, whether through taxes, philanthropic initiatives or both. Those fifty people could save millions of lives every year,” the Pope said.

Though Pope Francis believes poverty is a major current issue, something he has spoken about before, he tried to remain hopeful by saying the world’s problems today are “solvable.”

“The main message of hope I want to share with you is precisely this: these are solvable problems, not ones from a lack of resources. There is no determinism that condemns us to universal inequity. Let me repeat: we are not condemned to universal inequity,” he said.

Though the Pope spoke of the dangers of “extreme poverty” in his economic speech, reports suggest that extreme poverty is falling every year around the globe.

Still, a higher tax rate for wealthier individuals is a popular idea with some parties in both the US and UK, and the gap between rich and poor is certainly widening. A recent Oxfam report indicated the richest one percent of the world’s population has twice as much wealth as the remaining 90 percent, or 6.9 billion people.

https://www.rt.com/news/480256-pope-francis-tax-cuts/
Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Fidel Castro, and now the Pope!... Time to drone this damn commie!... :twisted:

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Re: The Pope is a Communist

Post by Doc » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:16 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:34 am
Pope Francis endorses wealth redistribution, calls for an end to tax cuts for the ‘richest people’

Pope Francis endorses wealth redistribution, calls for an end to tax cuts for the ‘richest people’

Pope Francis blasted the practice of tax cuts for the rich as part of a “structure of sin” and lamented the fact that “billions of dollars” end up in “tax haven accounts” instead of funding “healthcare and education.” Speaking at the seminar set up by the Pontifical Academy for Social Sciences the Pope criticized “the richest people” for receiving “repeated tax cuts” in the name of “investment and development.” These “tax haven accounts” impede “the possibility of the dignified and sustained development of all social agents,” claims the Pope.

He added that “the poor increase around us” as poverty is rising around the world. This poverty can be ended if the wealthiest gave more.

“The 50 richest people in the world have an equity equivalent to 2.2 billion dollars. Those fifty people alone could finance the medical care and education of every poor child in the world, whether through taxes, philanthropic initiatives or both. Those fifty people could save millions of lives every year,” the Pope said.

Though Pope Francis believes poverty is a major current issue, something he has spoken about before, he tried to remain hopeful by saying the world’s problems today are “solvable.”

“The main message of hope I want to share with you is precisely this: these are solvable problems, not ones from a lack of resources. There is no determinism that condemns us to universal inequity. Let me repeat: we are not condemned to universal inequity,” he said.

Though the Pope spoke of the dangers of “extreme poverty” in his economic speech, reports suggest that extreme poverty is falling every year around the globe.

Still, a higher tax rate for wealthier individuals is a popular idea with some parties in both the US and UK, and the gap between rich and poor is certainly widening. A recent Oxfam report indicated the richest one percent of the world’s population has twice as much wealth as the remaining 90 percent, or 6.9 billion people.

https://www.rt.com/news/480256-pope-francis-tax-cuts/
Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Fidel Castro, and now the Pope!... Time to drone this damn commie!... :twisted:
Maybe the CCP can just mail him some coronavirus instead.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/06/asia/li- ... index.html
Chinese doctor who sounded Wuhan virus alarm is critically ill, hospital says, after state media reported he had died

By Yong Xiong, Hande Atay Alam and Nectar Gan, CNN

Updated 2:49 PM ET, Thu February 6, 2020

"This story has been updated to reflect further reporting from Chinese state media and an official statement from the hospital."

Beijing (CNN)The Chinese doctor who sounded early warnings about the Wuhan coronavirus is in a critical condition, according to the hospital treating him and several state media outlets. Hours earlier the same state media organizations reported that he had died.
Wuhan Central Hospital said on its official Weibo account that Li Wenliang, 34, had become seriously ill. "In the fight against the pneumonia epidemic of the new coronavirus infection, our hospital's ophthalmologist Li Wenliang was unfortunately infected. He is currently in critical condition and we are trying our best to resuscitate him," the statement read.
Multiple state media outlets including Global Times and People's Daily, the ruling Communist Party's official newspaper, had earlier said Li had died, but later deleted their reports.
Following the initial reports that stated he had died, Chinese social media erupted with a mix of a profound grief and anger.

Li raised the alarm about the novel coronavirus in December, posting in his medical school alumni group on the Chinese messaging app WeChat that seven patients from a local seafood market had been diagnosed with a SARS-like illness and were quarantined in his hospital in Wuhan. Soon after he posted the message, Li was accused of rumor-mongering by the Wuhan police.
He was one of several medics targeted by police for trying to blow the whistle on the deadly virus in the early weeks of the outbreak, which has sickened more than 28,000 people and killed more than 560. He later contracted the virus himself.
The Global Times announced Li had died in a tweet at around 10:40 p.m. local time Thursday, linking to a report that cited friends and doctors at Wuhan Central Hospital. It deleted the post several hours later. Other Chinese media outlets also deleted their reports of his death, without explanation. The World Health Organization released a message of condolence following the initial reports that Li was dead but later updated their statement to say they did not have any information about the doctor's status.

The death toll and number of people infected by the Wuhan coronavirus continues to grow, with no signs of slowing despite severe quarantine and population control methods put in place in central China.
The number of confirmed cases globally stood at 28,275 as of Thursday, with more than 28,000 of those in China. The number of cases in China grew by 3,694, or 15%, on the previous day. There have been 565 deaths so far, all but two of which were in China, with one in the Philippines and one in Hong Kong.
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Re: The Pope is a Communist

Post by neverfail » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:27 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:34 am


https://www.rt.com/news/480256-pope-francis-tax-cuts/


Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Fidel Castro, and now the Pope!... Time to drone this damn commie!... :twisted:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Easy to be an armchair critic from the sideline when you do not have to do the hard yards of formulating and implementing the policies needed to bring it about.

:P :P :P

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Re: The Pope is a Communist

Post by cassowary » Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:17 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:34 am
Pope Francis endorses wealth redistribution, calls for an end to tax cuts for the ‘richest people’

Pope Francis endorses wealth redistribution, calls for an end to tax cuts for the ‘richest people’

Pope Francis blasted the practice of tax cuts for the rich as part of a “structure of sin” and lamented the fact that “billions of dollars” end up in “tax haven accounts” instead of funding “healthcare and education.” Speaking at the seminar set up by the Pontifical Academy for Social Sciences the Pope criticized “the richest people” for receiving “repeated tax cuts” in the name of “investment and development.” These “tax haven accounts” impede “the possibility of the dignified and sustained development of all social agents,” claims the Pope.

He added that “the poor increase around us” as poverty is rising around the world. This poverty can be ended if the wealthiest gave more.

“The 50 richest people in the world have an equity equivalent to 2.2 billion dollars. Those fifty people alone could finance the medical care and education of every poor child in the world, whether through taxes, philanthropic initiatives or both. Those fifty people could save millions of lives every year,” the Pope said.

Though Pope Francis believes poverty is a major current issue, something he has spoken about before, he tried to remain hopeful by saying the world’s problems today are “solvable.”

“The main message of hope I want to share with you is precisely this: these are solvable problems, not ones from a lack of resources. There is no determinism that condemns us to universal inequity. Let me repeat: we are not condemned to universal inequity,” he said.

Though the Pope spoke of the dangers of “extreme poverty” in his economic speech, reports suggest that extreme poverty is falling every year around the globe.

Still, a higher tax rate for wealthier individuals is a popular idea with some parties in both the US and UK, and the gap between rich and poor is certainly widening. A recent Oxfam report indicated the richest one percent of the world’s population has twice as much wealth as the remaining 90 percent, or 6.9 billion people.

https://www.rt.com/news/480256-pope-francis-tax-cuts/
Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Fidel Castro, and now the Pope!... Time to drone this damn commie!... :twisted:
Oh yes. I always felt all along that this Pope is a commie. His naive but well intentioned ideas, if implemented, will create more poor people. This may lead to a collapse of society ushering in a dictatorship. Just see what happened in Venezuela.

By the way, Fidel Castro is part of the top 1%.

Picture taken from previous link. Castro's mansion:
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Looks like Castro's fortune lasted a few generations.
Photos of young people living it up and flaunting their material trappings are nothing new on social media.

Except when it’s the grandson of Fidel Castro, the late Cuban Communist leader.

Tony Castro, who is in his early 20s and is a spitting image of his grandfather, has been posting photos on his private Instagram account showing off his BMW, meals at fancy restaurants around the world, and luxuriating aboard a yacht.
Don't be naive, Sertorio. There will always be a top 1%, even in a commie country.
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Re: The Pope is a Communist

Post by neverfail » Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:01 pm

cassowary wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:17 pm
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Picture taken from previous link. Castro's mansion:
Image

Looks like Castro's fortune lasted a few generations.
Now cut out the spite Cassowary!

That building is obviously a lovely heritage mansion dating from Spanish colonial times. It Is not a palace purpose built for Fidel with public money since the Cuban revolution. More likely it is an official residence for the president of Cuba; title deed for which is held by the state rather than private property owned by the Castros.

It is normal in any country for the head of state to have a highly presentable official residence like that (like The White House in the case of the USA for instance). If the Cuban revolution had never taken place do you believe that the president of Cuba would dwell in anything more modest than that?

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Re: The Pope is a Communist

Post by cassowary » Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:56 pm

neverfail wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:01 pm
cassowary wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:17 pm
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Picture taken from previous link. Castro's mansion:
Image

Looks like Castro's fortune lasted a few generations.
Now cut out the spite Cassowary!

That building is obviously a lovely heritage mansion dating from Spanish colonial times. It Is not a palace purpose built for Fidel with public money since the Cuban revolution. More likely it is an official residence for the president of Cuba; title deed for which is held by the state rather than private property owned by the Castros.

It is normal in any country for the head of state to have a highly presentable official residence like that (like The White House in the case of the USA for instance). If the Cuban revolution had never taken place do you believe that the president of Cuba would dwell in anything more modest than that?
Defending Castro, I see. What about the link showing Castro’s grandson living it up? As far as I know, he has no official position. Where did he get his money when his countrymen are poor?
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Re: The Pope is a Communist

Post by Doc » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:01 pm

cassowary wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:56 pm
neverfail wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:01 pm
cassowary wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:17 pm
.
Picture taken from previous link. Castro's mansion:
Image

Looks like Castro's fortune lasted a few generations.
Now cut out the spite Cassowary!

That building is obviously a lovely heritage mansion dating from Spanish colonial times. It Is not a palace purpose built for Fidel with public money since the Cuban revolution. More likely it is an official residence for the president of Cuba; title deed for which is held by the state rather than private property owned by the Castros.

It is normal in any country for the head of state to have a highly presentable official residence like that (like The White House in the case of the USA for instance). If the Cuban revolution had never taken place do you believe that the president of Cuba would dwell in anything more modest than that?
Defending Castro, I see. What about the link showing Castro’s grandson living it up? As far as I know, he has no official position. Where did he get his money when his countrymen are poor?
Joe Biden must have gotten him a job in Ukraine.
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Re: The Pope is a Communist

Post by neverfail » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:29 pm

Now, what does any of this malarkey have to do with the absurd allegation that the Pope is a Communist?

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Re: The Pope is a Communist

Post by Sertorio » Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:38 am

cassowary wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:17 pm

Oh yes. I always felt all along that this Pope is a commie. His naive but well intentioned ideas, if implemented, will create more poor people. This may lead to a collapse of society ushering in a dictatorship. Just see what happened in Venezuela.
You still can't see the difference between principles and systems. The Pope defends principles, he doesn't suggest systems to put those principles into practice. The challenge for all of us is to find ways to make those principles applicable to our everyday life, and to stop any policies which will make those principles impossible to apply. The Pope is certainly not a socialist - he doesn't have to be to uphold those principles -, but I'm sure he is strongly against capitalism, in as much as capitalism makes those principles impossible to uphold in our societies. For those of us who are socialists, the trick is to combine those principles with a respect for liberty and democracy. So far such a combination has been very difficult to put into practice, but it isn't impossible.

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Re: The Pope is a Communist

Post by cassowary » Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:43 am

Sertorio wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:38 am
cassowary wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:17 pm

Oh yes. I always felt all along that this Pope is a commie. His naive but well intentioned ideas, if implemented, will create more poor people. This may lead to a collapse of society ushering in a dictatorship. Just see what happened in Venezuela.
You still can't see the difference between principles and systems. The Pope defends principles, he doesn't suggest systems to put those principles into practice. The challenge for all of us is to find ways to make those principles applicable to our everyday life, and to stop any policies which will make those principles impossible to apply. The Pope is certainly not a socialist - he doesn't have to be to uphold those principles -, but I'm sure he is strongly against capitalism, in as much as capitalism makes those principles impossible to uphold in our societies. For those of us who are socialists, the trick is to combine those principles with a respect for liberty and democracy. So far such a combination has been very difficult to put into practice, but it isn't impossible.
The principle may be laudable but also impossible to put into practice. No system based on those principle has succeeded in giving people a better life. The end result is always the same - poverty and dictatorship.

And you still will have a Super wealthy TOP 1%.
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