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Socialized Medicine is so great it is literally to die for

Post by Doc » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:54 pm

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/0 ... home-care/

41-Year-Old Disabled Man Euthanized After Government Health Officials Decide to Cut Funding for In-Home Care
“"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros

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Re: Socialized Medicine is so great it is literally to die for

Post by lzzrdgrrl » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:06 pm

This rather lefty European more or less gets real about what Public Healthcare (his preferred term over 'socialised medicine') entails.......

I have a certain notoriety among the lesser gods........

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Re: Socialized Medicine is so great it is literally to die for

Post by neverfail » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:14 pm

Well, at least Sean Tagert was getting care provided to him until (for possibly valid reasons reasons not stated in the propaganda piece - link) health officials had his support funding cut off.

In the USA, given the travesty of a public health system you have there; the same man would have been very likely left to die years sooner having not even received the years of support he had previously got under the Canadian system.

You Yanks have absolutely no reason to feel smug.

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Re: Socialized Medicine is so great it is literally to die for

Post by Doc » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:44 pm

neverfail wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:14 pm
Well, at least Sean Tagert was getting care provided to him until (for possibly valid reasons reasons not stated in the propaganda piece - link) health officials had his support funding cut off.

In the USA, given the travesty of a public health system you have there; the same man would have been very likely left to die years sooner having not even received the years of support he had previously got under the Canadian system.

You Yanks have absolutely no reason to feel smug.
There is no reason to doubt this man's death bed statement.

It just proves the lie of socialized medicine doesn't it. The promise is made that your health care will be paid when that is not true. The agency in question say they pay for 24/7 home care. So why didn't they do it in this case?

In the USA this guy would have been on disability and been covered under medicare.
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Re: Socialized Medicine is so great it is literally to die for

Post by Milo » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:46 pm

neverfail wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:14 pm
Well, at least Sean Tagert was getting care provided to him until (for possibly valid reasons reasons not stated in the propaganda piece - link) health officials had his support funding cut off.

In the USA, given the travesty of a public health system you have there; the same man would have been very likely left to die years sooner having not even received the years of support he had previously got under the Canadian system.

You Yanks have absolutely no reason to feel smug.
No, the US does not, Canada has higher life expectancy:

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And euthanized is NOT the correct term for someone who "submitted an application to undergo a physician-assisted suicide".

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/canad ... d-suicide/

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Re: Socialized Medicine is so great it is literally to die for

Post by Doc » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:48 pm

Milo wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:46 pm
neverfail wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:14 pm
Well, at least Sean Tagert was getting care provided to him until (for possibly valid reasons reasons not stated in the propaganda piece - link) health officials had his support funding cut off.

In the USA, given the travesty of a public health system you have there; the same man would have been very likely left to die years sooner having not even received the years of support he had previously got under the Canadian system.

You Yanks have absolutely no reason to feel smug.
No, the US does not, Canada has higher life expectancy:

Image

And euthanized is NOT the correct term for someone who "submitted an application to undergo a physician-assisted suicide".

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/canad ... d-suicide/
Again: In the USA this guy would have been on disability and been covered under medicare.
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Re: Socialized Medicine is so great it is literally to die for

Post by Milo » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:52 pm

Doc wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:48 pm
Milo wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:46 pm
neverfail wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:14 pm
Well, at least Sean Tagert was getting care provided to him until (for possibly valid reasons reasons not stated in the propaganda piece - link) health officials had his support funding cut off.

In the USA, given the travesty of a public health system you have there; the same man would have been very likely left to die years sooner having not even received the years of support he had previously got under the Canadian system.

You Yanks have absolutely no reason to feel smug.
No, the US does not, Canada has higher life expectancy:

Image

And euthanized is NOT the correct term for someone who "submitted an application to undergo a physician-assisted suicide".

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/canad ... d-suicide/
Again: In the USA this guy would have been on disability and been covered under medicare.
Again, your 'pro-life' nutjob sources are wilfully misleading and histrionic.

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Re: Socialized Medicine is so great it is literally to die for

Post by neverfail » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:13 pm

[quote=Milo post_id=25450 time=1568238772 user_id=56
Again, your 'pro-life' nutjob sources are wilfully misleading and histrionic.
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Milo, do you have any idea why health officials might have cut funding for that man's life support - leading to his early death?

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Post by Milo » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:04 pm

neverfail wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:13 pm
[quote=Milo post_id=25450 time=1568238772 user_id=56
Again, your 'pro-life' nutjob sources are wilfully misleading and histrionic.
Milo, do you have any idea why health officials might have cut funding for that man's life support - leading to his early death?
[/quote]

It was not cut off, his care was not fully funded, although it was increased.
“Doctors recommended 24-hour in-home care to support Mr Tagert. However, Vancouver Coastal Health, initially only offered Mr Tagert 15.5 hours of care a day, which was then raised to 20 hours a day, meaning that Mr Tagert was forced to pay $263.50 a day for the remaining care that he needed to survive.”
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/canad ... d-suicide/

And although it was an early death ALS guaranteed him a slowly and gruesome one eventually. You don't get assisted suicide out of a Cracker Jack box in Canada.

I have no idea why he wasn't fully funded but I am no fan of these regional boards that administrate programs, they are not cheap and it is difficult to see how they add value.

This is terrible but not the context this bunch of flat earther propaganda was going for.

The problem here is clearly that Canada's medicare is not 'socialist' enough. We should just fully fund these things.

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Re: Socialized Medicine is so great it is literally to die for

Post by Sertorio » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:19 am

This Is Why So Many Americans Are Deathly Afraid Of Going To The Hospital…

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archiv ... e-hospital
Yeah! Socialism is truly deadly...

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