"Nazis were not socialists so we have never tried true Nationalist Socialism"

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Re: it was a policy bungle Doc.

Post by neverfail » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:47 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:12 pm

In Europe we need time to become ruthless. But eventually we will get there... :twisted:
Europeans have a long past history of being ruthless. Modern Europe's apparent inability to act resolutely represents an immense recoil against the horrible excesses of the past.

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Re: "Nazis were not socialists so we have never tried true Nationalist Socialism"

Post by Doc » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:56 pm

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Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:44 pm
You conspiracy theorist fools overlook the fact that as a rule the refugees usually wanted to leave their home countries even less that Europe wanted to accept them. If you yourselves lived in a life threatening situation in the midst of civil war, would you not want to flee to somewhere more peaceful?
https://metro.co.uk/2019/07/31/man-push ... -10494467/
Man ‘who pushed boy, 8, under train’ was used in campaign to promote integration
author imageLucy MiddletonWednesday 31 Jul 2019 3:32 pm
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Re: it was a policy bungle Doc.

Post by neverfail » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:53 pm

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Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:17 am
It was intentional. No one is that stupid.
Are you under the impression that governments are endowed with the omniscience and omnipotence of God Almighty?

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Re: "Nazis were not socialists so we have never tried true Nationalist Socialism"

Post by neverfail » Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:04 pm

Doc wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:56 pm
https://metro.co.uk/2019/07/31/man-push ... -10494467/
Man ‘who pushed boy, 8, under train’ was used in campaign to promote integration
author imageLucy MiddletonWednesday 31 Jul 2019 3:32 pm
One or two murders proves nothing even if they help serve to stigmatize the group by its enemies and detractors.

In your country you do not need to be a Muslim refugee to be a mass murderer:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-28/ ... ts/5177140

Sandy Hook massacre: Harrowing details of Newtown school killings revealed

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Re: "Nazis were not socialists so we have never tried true Nationalist Socialism"

Post by Doc » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:18 pm

neverfail wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:04 pm
Doc wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:56 pm
https://metro.co.uk/2019/07/31/man-push ... -10494467/
Man ‘who pushed boy, 8, under train’ was used in campaign to promote integration
author imageLucy MiddletonWednesday 31 Jul 2019 3:32 pm
One or two murders proves nothing even if they help serve to stigmatize the group by its enemies and detractors.
The list is quite long and started well before the war in Syria

https://thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/ ... tacks.aspx

In your country you do not need to be a Muslim refugee to be a mass murderer:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-28/ ... ts/5177140

Sandy Hook massacre: Harrowing details of Newtown school killings revealed
First that is home grown and not from refugees
Second it was in a leftist area and the shooter was from a leftist family.
Otherwise these school shootings generally have things in common like psychiatric drugs and bullying.
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Re: it was a policy bungle Doc.

Post by Doc » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:20 pm

neverfail wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:53 pm
Doc wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:17 am
It was intentional. No one is that stupid.
Are you under the impression that governments are endowed with the omniscience and omnipotence of God Almighty?
No but they have experts and the politicians usually democratic ones anyway got to positions of authority by understanding how people think.
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Re: "Nazis were not socialists so we have never tried true Nationalist Socialism"

Post by neverfail » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:54 pm


In your country you do not need to be a Muslim refugee to be a mass murderer:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-28/ ... ts/5177140

Sandy Hook massacre: Harrowing details of Newtown school killings revealed
Doc wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:18 pm
First that is home grown and not from refugees
What's the difference? Murder is still murder.

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Re: it was a policy bungle Doc.

Post by Sertorio » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:59 am

neverfail wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:47 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:12 pm

In Europe we need time to become ruthless. But eventually we will get there... :twisted:
Europeans have a long past history of being ruthless. Modern Europe's apparent inability to act resolutely represents an immense recoil against the horrible excesses of the past.
Europeans easily accept diversity, but I doubt we will allow that diversity to turn against our own culture and traditions. People who reject our society will eventually be expelled. I have no doubt that such deportations will be supported by the vast majority of Europeans. On the other hand, those immigrants who truly want to become part of the European society should be welcome and treated fairly.

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Re: it was a policy bungle Doc.

Post by Jim the Moron » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:32 am

Sertorio wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:59 am
neverfail wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:47 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:12 pm

In Europe we need time to become ruthless. But eventually we will get there... :twisted:
Europeans have a long past history of being ruthless. Modern Europe's apparent inability to act resolutely represents an immense recoil against the horrible excesses of the past.
Europeans easily accept diversity, but I doubt we will allow that diversity to turn against our own culture and traditions. People who reject our society will eventually be expelled. I have no doubt that such deportations will be supported by the vast majority of Europeans. On the other hand, those immigrants who truly want to become part of the European society should be welcome and treated fairly.
If Herr Spengler was to comment here, he would argue that much of European culture is doomed. He would especially cite Germany and the UK. For all civilized folks who value European culture, we hope you are correct and Spengler wrong.

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Re: it was a policy bungle Doc.

Post by Sertorio » Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:11 am

Jim the Moron wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:32 am
Sertorio wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:59 am
neverfail wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:47 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:12 pm

In Europe we need time to become ruthless. But eventually we will get there... :twisted:
Europeans have a long past history of being ruthless. Modern Europe's apparent inability to act resolutely represents an immense recoil against the horrible excesses of the past.
Europeans easily accept diversity, but I doubt we will allow that diversity to turn against our own culture and traditions. People who reject our society will eventually be expelled. I have no doubt that such deportations will be supported by the vast majority of Europeans. On the other hand, those immigrants who truly want to become part of the European society should be welcome and treated fairly.
If Herr Spengler was to comment here, he would argue that much of European culture is doomed. He would especially cite Germany and the UK. For all civilized folks who value European culture, we hope you are correct and Spengler wrong.
Spengler is resentful of Europe because of the Europeans' passivity in respect of the holocaust. I can understand that, but the holocaust is no more representative of Europe than the Inquisition was. We must have the humility to understand that those horrendous manifestations of violence are part of our heritage, but they do not represent us, as a whole. And that's why we try to handle the immigration issue in a more humane manner, but I am afraid that is not realistic. Sooner or later we will have to expel those who want to destroy us.

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