Gas, guns and pragmatism

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Gas, guns and pragmatism

Post by neverfail » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:01 pm

https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/02/artic ... gn-policy/

Despite Russia's well known shortcomings, Vladimir Putin seems to have a foreign policy agenda that works.

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Re: Gas, guns and pragmatism

Post by Jim the Moron » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:37 pm

neverfail wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:01 pm
https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/02/artic ... gn-policy/

Despite Russia's well known shortcomings, Vladimir Putin seems to have a foreign policy agenda that works.
Russia playing nice with Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Syria? Good luck with that . . .

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Re: Gas, guns and pragmatism

Post by Sertorio » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:50 am

Jim the Moron wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:37 pm
neverfail wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:01 pm
https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/02/artic ... gn-policy/

Despite Russia's well known shortcomings, Vladimir Putin seems to have a foreign policy agenda that works.
Russia playing nice with Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Syria? Good luck with that . . .
Until shortly ago the US loved Turkey and Saudi Arabia... Countries only become unreliable when they decide to refuse the US diktat...

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Re: Gas, guns and pragmatism

Post by Jim the Moron » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:59 am

Sertorio wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:50 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:37 pm
neverfail wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:01 pm
https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/02/artic ... gn-policy/

Despite Russia's well known shortcomings, Vladimir Putin seems to have a foreign policy agenda that works.
Russia playing nice with Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Syria? Good luck with that . . .
Until shortly ago the US loved Turkey and Saudi Arabia... Countries only become unreliable when they decide to refuse the US diktat...
Yes, idiot US politicians for years kissed up to the Turks and Saudis.

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Re: Gas, guns and pragmatism

Post by Sertorio » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:24 am

Jim the Moron wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:59 am
Sertorio wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:50 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:37 pm
neverfail wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:01 pm
https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/02/artic ... gn-policy/

Despite Russia's well known shortcomings, Vladimir Putin seems to have a foreign policy agenda that works.
Russia playing nice with Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Syria? Good luck with that . . .
Until shortly ago the US loved Turkey and Saudi Arabia... Countries only become unreliable when they decide to refuse the US diktat...
Yes, idiot US politicians for years kissed up to the Turks and Saudis.
What makes you think that US politicians have become less idiotic?...

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Re: Gas, guns and pragmatism

Post by Jim the Moron » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:30 am

Sertorio wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:24 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:59 am
Sertorio wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:50 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:37 pm
neverfail wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:01 pm
https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/02/artic ... gn-policy/

Despite Russia's well known shortcomings, Vladimir Putin seems to have a foreign policy agenda that works.
Russia playing nice with Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Syria? Good luck with that . . .
Until shortly ago the US loved Turkey and Saudi Arabia... Countries only become unreliable when they decide to refuse the US diktat...
Yes, idiot US politicians for years kissed up to the Turks and Saudis.
What makes you think that US politicians have become less idiotic?...
Ask me again when (if) the US withdraws all ground forces from West Asia/North Africa Islamic lands.

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Re: Gas, guns and pragmatism

Post by neverfail » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:46 am

Well, it looks now as if Putin will gather a sizeable part of Eurasia together into a zone of shared penury.

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Re: Gas, guns and pragmatism

Post by Sertorio » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:55 am

neverfail wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:46 am
Well, it looks now as if Putin will gather a sizeable part of Eurasia together into a zone of shared penury.
Shared penury? Explain, please. And prove your statement, if you can...

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Re: Gas, guns and pragmatism

Post by neverfail » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:43 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:55 am
neverfail wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:46 am
Well, it looks now as if Putin will gather a sizeable part of Eurasia together into a zone of shared penury.
Shared penury? Explain, please. And prove your statement, if you can...
Do you really believe that a cluster of Eurasian states centered around the Russian Federation are ever going to achieve improved living standards level with the accepted norm in the countries of northwestern Europe? :lol:

No alliance based solely on power can ever do any good like that.

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Re: Gas, guns and pragmatism

Post by Sertorio » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:24 am

neverfail wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:43 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:55 am
neverfail wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:46 am
Well, it looks now as if Putin will gather a sizeable part of Eurasia together into a zone of shared penury.
Shared penury? Explain, please. And prove your statement, if you can...
Do you really believe that a cluster of Eurasian states centered around the Russian Federation are ever going to achieve improved living standards level with the accepted norm in the countries of northwestern Europe? :lol:

No alliance based solely on power can ever do any good like that.
I haven't seen any figures, but I would expect that economic cooperation can do no harm. Together those countries are likely to achieve higher growth than they would if they kept separate.

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