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Re: Impeachment!

Post by Doc » Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:45 pm

Milo wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:16 pm
lzzrdgrrl wrote:
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Doc wrote:
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Jim the Moron wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:07 pm
This just in. Speaker of the House Pelosi has just announced that Articles of Impeachment are being prepared against former Republican President Warren G Harding. Seems as if Harding had numerous illicit dalliances with various maidens, one of which (gasp!) produced a baby.

Bill Clinton immediately leapt to Harding's defense. "So what's the big deal? I used to use the same broom closet that Warren frequented, and I never got impeached for it. And don't go getting any ideas, Nancy, or I'll get a movement going to impeach you for entering a hair salon maskless."
Wait until they start pre-impeaching presidents.
Why don't we just dismiss all this nonsense and go straight to Trial By Combat.....;>........

Too late:


To too late



Maybe Joe would like Jerry Springer to officiate


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Re: Impeachment!

Post by Milo » Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:52 pm

Once again Trump has hired his legal team to play to the gallery. You couldn’t do this in front of a judge!
Law Professor Cited 15 Times by Trump’s Legal Team Says Impeachment Memo Was Filled with ‘Flat-Out Misrepresentations’ of His Work

Attorneys representing Trump filed a legal brief on Monday arguing that the U.S. Constitution only allows for the impeachment of sitting officials and therefore cannot be utilized against a president who has already left office. Similar to the House Impeachment Managers’ pre-trial filing, the brief relied heavily on a highly-regarded 2001 academic article on late impeachments by Michigan State University law professor Brian Kalt. Unfortunately for Trump’s attorneys, Kalt—who is widely viewed as the leading expert in constitutional law dealing with the presidency, presidential pardons, impeachment, succession, and the 25th Amendment—immediately responded to the memo by saying it repeatedly distorted and misrepresented his work.

“Trump’s brief cites my 2001 article on late impeachment a lot,” Kalt wrote in a four-part Twitter thread. “The article favored late impeachability, but it set out all the evidence I found on both sides–lots for them to use. But in several places, they misrepresent what I wrote quite badly.”

The 133-page article, titled “The Constitutional Case for the Impeachability of Former Federal Officials: An Analysis of the Law, History, and Practice of Late Impeachment,” is an exhaustive analysis of the history and law relevant to the issue which ultimately concludes that there is a “solid basis” for post-presidential impeachments.

But that’s not how Trump’s lawyers Bruce L. Castor, Jr., David Schoen, and Michael T. van der Veen portrayed Kalt’s work.

“They suggest that I was endorsing an argument when what I actually did was note that argument–and reject it,” Kalt wrote, specifically citing footnote 57 of Trump’s impeachment memo.

That footnote in question reads: “As Brian Kalt explains, ideas like requiring a two-thirds majority to convict in the Senate are not self-evident, which is why the Framers took the time to spell them out. Late impeachment, so the argument goes, which is also not self-evident, would have also required specification if the Framers wished to include it as a possibility.”

But in his article, Kalt actually reaches the opposite conclusion.

“A critic of late impeachment could argue that things like two-thirds majority requirements are not self-evident and, therefore, require specification, and that late impeachment is similarly counterintuitive and also requires specification,” Kalt wrote. He then noted that several state constitutions made specific references to late impeachment, but only “in the context of limiting it” and while simultaneously using “language that suggested that late impeachment was otherwise implicitly permissible.”

“Therefore, allowing late impeachment is the self-evident proposition, not the counterintuitive one, and failure to explicitly bar it while specifying other limitations on the impeachment power is a telling omission,” he concluded.

Kalt went on to say that there are “multiple examples of such flat-out misrepresentations” in the Trump memo, highlighting “the worst” such instance being the contention that his work espoused the theory that “when a president is no longer in office, the objective of an impeachment ceases,” a notion expressly rejected as “deeply flawed” in the article.

“If removal were the only possible judgment in impeachment cases, [this] interpretation would be more likely. But removal is not the only possible judgment mentioned in the text; disqualification is possible too,” the article stated. “Removal is a mandatory sentence for sitting officers upon conviction, but it is not the sole end of impeachment.”

In an email to Law&Crime, Kalt said the misrepresentation of his work tainted the credibility of Trump’s attorneys before the trial has even begun.

“In a typical legal case, one of the worst things a lawyer who values his or her credibility can do is to cite authorities that actually say the opposite of what the lawyer claims,” he said. “An impeachment trial is unlike a typical legal case in a lot of ways, but I hope that this is not one of them. I hope that the senators realize what it means when lawyers misuse sources in this way.”

Law&Crime reached out to Trump’s legal team by email regarding Kalt’s comments, but we have not yet heard back.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/la ... r-BB1dvjc3

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Re: Impeachment!

Post by Milo » Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:02 pm

Some good production values for the trial!


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Re: Impeachment!

Post by lzzrdgrrl » Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:13 pm

Student film grade street theatre. This is what I would imagine a real insurrection would look like.....'>.......
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Re: Impeachment!

Post by Milo » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:19 pm

Maybe you'll like this better.


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Re: Impeachment!

Post by lzzrdgrrl » Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:57 pm

Well...... this one lacks the production quality and it's not as emotionally evocative, but ehh...... what do you think?....'>.......

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Re: Impeachment!

Post by Milo » Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:33 pm

lzzrdgrrl wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:57 pm
Well...... this one lacks the production quality and it's not as emotionally evocative, but ehh...... what do you think?....'>.......

I think drugs should be legal but regulated. That should fix the generals.

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Re: Impeachment!

Post by Doc » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:00 pm

Milo wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:19 pm
Maybe you'll like this better.

Political theater WHat Trump actually said in his Jan 6th 2021 speech:

"“I know that everyone here will soon be walking over the Capitol Building to peacefully* and patriotically make your voices heard.”" -- Donald Trump Jan 6th 2021

*My emphasis for the hard of seeing

BTW has anyone from the lincoln project been interviewed on the MSM, as of yet, on its co-founder's male sexual harassment charges? Including one 14 year old... Last time I heard the current head was on TV dozens of times on the fake news MSM since the charges came out, and he has not been asked a single time about the charges.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/31/us/p ... sment.html
21 Men Accuse Lincoln Project Co-Founder of Online Harassment

John Weaver, a longtime G.O.P. operative who advised John McCain and John Kasich, made sexual overtures to young men, sometimes offering to help them get work in politics.
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Re: Impeachment!

Post by Milo » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:09 pm

Well the impeachment is over and I am not sorry to see that.

Trump will now face far worse legal challenges that interest me a lot more.

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Re: Impeachment!

Post by lzzrdgrrl » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:27 pm

Okay whiteboard time. The difference between an honest-to-god insurrection and some other trivial nonsense:

Insurrections, real and fake
A real insurrection features many repeated episodes of violence, held up as preparatory to a total overthrow of the existing order
One riot does not an insurrection make.

Nor does one word (in this case “fight”) transmute the street-wise lexicon of a New York hotel builder into a mesmerizing Robespierre (or Gandhi).

An insurrection has leaders who are maddened by theories of a new Utopia, a social vision they alone understand as if transmitted to them, by the gods, and about which they have been ranting, pistol, sword or literal bomb in hand, during the entirety of their public lives. Such leaders are not in power, they lust after power.
A real insurrection has a history of many riots, a written-out charge-sheet of accusations against the powers-that-be, developed simultaneously in conjunction with a record of real blood, bullets, bombs and parades, typically financed in part by shadowy domestic and also international persons and nations acting as puppet-masters with their own sophisticated agendas.
https://asiatimes.com/2021/02/insurrect ... E_20cEkfXY
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