Impeachment!

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Re: Impeachment!

Post by Doc » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:48 am

Doc wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:27 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:06 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:39 pm
Doc wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:32 pm
Jim the Moron wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:26 pm
So, the belligerent manchild got his ass impeached. The US continues to prosper. Maybe, after Trump's reelection in 2020 they should impeach the bastard again. Good for the economy . . .
That is their plan. Though before the 2020 election

Yes, before and/or after Trump's reelection Pelosi et al. will give it another go, thereby wasting resources - time and money - while ignoring the best interests of the people and enhancing the popularity of the belligerent manchild.

Right on cue . . .
Speaker Pelosi has just declared her intent to have POTUS impeached again. I forget what high crime or misdemeanor the SOB is alleged to have committed this time. Maybe he is not flossing regularly?
Less than half of the Democrats came out for Iowa and New Hampshire than came out for Obama in 2012. They are throwing anything against the wall they can get their hands on to fire up their base. There problem is after 2016 and now this year people can see they are doing to anyone that is not one of them like Bernie what they are accusing Trump of doing -- cheating. Its like they are at the annual office Christmas party wearing a lamp shade. It seemed like a good idea while they were at the party.
Then of course there is this to be distracted from:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/justice-de ... urce-says/
Justice Department has been reviewing Ukraine material for "several weeks," source says

By Catherine Herridge and Clare Hymes

February 11, 2020 / 5:30 PM / CBS News
........
The new review includes some material provided by Rudy Giuliani, the president's personal attorney, but goes beyond matters regarding former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter, who served on the board of a Ukrainian energy company.
“"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros

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Re: Impeachment!

Post by neverfail » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:41 pm

Politics in the USA is truly low.

There seems to be no limit as to the depths they will stoop to get an angle.

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Re: Impeachment!

Post by Milo » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:08 pm

neverfail wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:41 pm
Politics in the USA is truly low.

There seems to be no limit as to the depths they will stoop to get an angle.
I think Trump takes it up a level or two.
U.S. Attorney-General William Barr said on Thursday that President Donald Trump’s attacks on prosecutors, the judge and jurors in the trial of a long-time adviser undermined the Justice Department’s work, adding he would not be “bullied” by anyone.

In an ABC interview, Mr. Barr, the top U.S. law enforcement officer, said Trump’s criticism of those involved in the case of Roger Stone “make it impossible for me to do my job.”

Mr. Barr spoke after his Justice Department abandoned prosecutors’ initial recommendation to give the veteran Republican operative seven to nine years in prison, prompting all four prosecutors to quit the case.

Mr. Trump has weighed in on Twitter all week with comments that have aroused concerns his administration is weakening the rule of law.

“I’m not going to be bullied or influenced by anybody … whether it’s Congress, a newspaper editorial board or the president,” Mr. Barr said.

“I cannot do my job here at the department with a constant background commentary that undercuts me,” Mr. Barr said, adding: “I think it’s time to stop the tweeting about Department of Justice criminal cases.”

The White House said Mr. Trump was not bothered by Mr. Barr’s remarks.

“The President has full faith and confidence in Attorney-General Barr to do his job and uphold the law,” White House spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham said in a prepared statement.

Mr. Stone was found guilty in November on seven counts of lying to Congress, obstruction and witness tampering.

Mr. Trump posted a Fox News story on Thursday that accused some of the jurors of political bias. “This is not looking good for the ‘Justice’ Department,” he tweeted.

Seth Cousins, who served as a juror in Mr. Stone’s trial, told Reuters he was “appalled” by Mr. Trump’s remarks.

“It feels like something outrageous is going on,” Mr. Cousins said in an interview.

“I think it is appalling for the president of the United States to be attacking American citizens for patriotically fulfilling their duties,” he said.

TWITTER ATTACKS

The Twitter attacks started on Tuesday when Mr. Trump criticized U.S. prosecutors in the case stemming from former special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation detailing Russian interference in the 2016 election to benefit Mr. Trump’s candidacy.

The Republican president called their sentencing recommendation for Mr. Stone, whose friendship with Mr. Trump dates back decades, “horrible” and a “miscarriage of justice.”

Mr. Trump on Wednesday thanked Mr. Barr, whom he appointed last year, for “taking charge” of the case. He also tweeted criticism of U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson, who is scheduled to sentence Mr. Stone on Feb. 20.

Both Mr. Trump and the Justice Department said they had not had direct talks on the matter.

Former U.S. attorney Jessie Liu, who oversaw the Stone case, resigned from the Treasury Department this week after the White House dropped her nomination for a post overseeing economic sanctions, a source confirmed to Reuters on Thursday.

House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Mr. Trump’s comments on the Stone case amounted to interference in the workings of the U.S. government’s judicial branch.

“This is an abuse of power – that the president is again trying to manipulate federal law enforcement to serve his political interest,” Ms. Pelosi, a Democrat, told a news conference. “This is not what America is about. It is so wrong.”

Chief Judge Beryl Howell, the top judge on the U.S. District Court in Washington on which Justice Jackson sits, also weighed in on Thursday, saying in an unusual public statement that public criticism “is not a factor” in sentencing decisions.

’LITTLE BIT BETRAYED’

In his interview, Mr. Cousins said politics was never discussed as the jury deliberated.

“As a whole group, and in every single conversation that I was involved in or overheard, we never discussed politics as a jury. I have no idea what anyone’s political affiliation is,” he said.

The jurors have kept in touch since the trial and followed developments, Mr. Cousins said, adding they all “echo the sense of being appalled. Maybe a little bit betrayed.”

Grant Smith, one of Mr. Stone’s lawyers, told Reuters that the defence team was examining jurors’ social media posts.

Early on in the jury selection process, Justice Jackson overruled Mr. Stone’s lawyers when they tried to strike prospective jurors who worked for the government or who had opinions about Mr. Trump.

All 10 Democrats on the Senate judiciary committee called on Thursday for an investigation, but the panel’s Republican chairman, Lindsey Graham, has dismissed that idea.

He wrote on Twitter that he hoped the court would take the jury allegations seriously if the report was accurate, calling it “not fair.”

Other Republicans have largely shrugged off the furor.

“I’ll leave it up to a judge to decide whether a juror is biased or not,” Senator Chuck Grassley said.

Mr. Stone was one of several close Trump associates charged in Mr. Mueller’s probe, which Mr. Trump called a “witch hunt.” His supporters are pushing for a presidential pardon, which Mr. Trump has declined to comment on.

Mr. Trump was acquitted in the Republican-led Senate last week on impeachment charges brought by the Democratic-led House accusing him of abuse of power and obstruction of Congress stemming from his dealings with Ukraine.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/u ... jurors-in/

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Re: Impeachment!

Post by Doc2 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:01 pm

If anyone is wondering what happened to me I got locked out of my account. Would someone please point DAVadmin to this post? And ask to send a PM to this account?

Thanks

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Re: Impeachment!

Post by neverfail » Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:58 pm

Milo wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:08 pm
neverfail wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:41 pm
Politics in the USA is truly low.

There seems to be no limit as to the depths they will stoop to get an angle.
I think Trump takes it up a level or two.
Up?

Do you mean that Trump has improved the standard of conduct or plunged it down further towards Russia's low level of political discourse?

(The way that Trump goes on at times he reminds me of a Russian oligarch.)

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Re: Impeachment!

Post by Doc2 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:19 am

neverfail wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:58 pm
Milo wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:08 pm
neverfail wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:41 pm
Politics in the USA is truly low.

There seems to be no limit as to the depths they will stoop to get an angle.
I think Trump takes it up a level or two.
Up?

Do you mean that Trump has improved the standard of conduct or plunged it down further towards Russia's low level of political discourse?

(The way that Trump goes on at times he reminds me of a Russian oligarch.)
You mean your politicians are better at lying than our's are?

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