"Peek a Boo Oil"

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Re: "Peek a Boo Oil"

Post by neverfail » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:45 pm

Doc wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:43 pm


The US leads the world in reduction of CO2 emissions. That is due to fracking of Natural Gas. The EU has pretty much done nothing that has reduced CO2 emissions That dispite high taxes on Gasoline. While at the same time most of the EU has highly restricted Fracking. Co-incidence?
Governments even in the EU do not implement restrictions just for the sake of doing it. You are likely to find that there must be a good reason for it.

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Re: "Peek a Boo Oil"

Post by Jim the Moron » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:24 pm

neverfail wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:45 pm
Doc wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:43 pm


The US leads the world in reduction of CO2 emissions. That is due to fracking of Natural Gas. The EU has pretty much done nothing that has reduced CO2 emissions That dispite high taxes on Gasoline. While at the same time most of the EU has highly restricted Fracking. Co-incidence?
Governments even in the EU do not implement restrictions just for the sake of doing it. You are likely to find that there must be a good reason for it.
As it happens, motherfracking EU governments are not noted for having "good reasons" for their decision-making processes.

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Re: "Peek a Boo Oil"

Post by Milo » Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:31 pm

Jim the Moron wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:24 pm
neverfail wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:45 pm
Doc wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:43 pm


The US leads the world in reduction of CO2 emissions. That is due to fracking of Natural Gas. The EU has pretty much done nothing that has reduced CO2 emissions That dispite high taxes on Gasoline. While at the same time most of the EU has highly restricted Fracking. Co-incidence?
Governments even in the EU do not implement restrictions just for the sake of doing it. You are likely to find that there must be a good reason for it.
As it happens, motherfracking EU governments are not noted for having "good reasons" for their decision-making processes.
I'm afraid we aren't all Breitbart readers, so we don't all accept these American rightwingnut truisms.

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Re: "Peek a Boo Oil"

Post by Jim the Moron » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:16 pm

Milo wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:31 pm
Jim the Moron wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:24 pm
neverfail wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:45 pm
Doc wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:43 pm


The US leads the world in reduction of CO2 emissions. That is due to fracking of Natural Gas. The EU has pretty much done nothing that has reduced CO2 emissions That dispite high taxes on Gasoline. While at the same time most of the EU has highly restricted Fracking. Co-incidence?
Governments even in the EU do not implement restrictions just for the sake of doing it. You are likely to find that there must be a good reason for it.
As it happens, motherfracking EU governments are not noted for having "good reasons" for their decision-making processes.
I'm afraid we aren't all Breitbart readers, so we don't all accept these American rightwingnut truisms.
Wingnuts abound, but fortunately not on this forum. However, stating that EU governments don't implement restrictions without "good reason" constitutes truisms run amok.

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Re: 'fracking about' with the environment.

Post by neverfail » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:33 am

What are the effects of fracking on the environment?

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answer ... onment.asp

Europe is smaller and more crowded than the United States. Clearly governments there (or the EU Commission?) do not consider the risks worth the potential rewards. Considering too that they can buy as much oil and gas as they like from the Russians and Arabs.

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Re: 'fracking about' with the environment.

Post by Milo » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:31 am

neverfail wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:33 am
What are the effects of fracking on the environment?

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answer ... onment.asp

Europe is smaller and more crowded than the United States. Clearly governments there (or the EU Commission?) do not consider the risks worth the potential rewards. Considering too that they can buy as much oil and gas as they like from the Russians and Arabs.
Indeed! Only looking at Greenhouse Emissions (funny how all of a sudden Republicans are so passionate about them) leaves a lot of other pollution problems unreported: ground water contamination, water use etc.

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Re: "Peek a Boo Oil"

Post by Doc » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:24 am

neverfail wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:45 pm
Doc wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:43 pm


The US leads the world in reduction of CO2 emissions. That is due to fracking of Natural Gas. The EU has pretty much done nothing that has reduced CO2 emissions That dispite high taxes on Gasoline. While at the same time most of the EU has highly restricted Fracking. Co-incidence?
Governments even in the EU do not implement restrictions just for the sake of doing it. You are likely to find that there must be a good reason for it.
You mean like charging $3.50 tax a gallon for gasoline?
“"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros

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Re: 'fracking about' with the environment.

Post by Doc » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:15 am

Milo wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:31 am
neverfail wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:33 am
What are the effects of fracking on the environment?[/size]

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answer ... onment.asp

Europe is smaller and more crowded than the United States. Clearly governments there (or the EU Commission?) do not consider the risks worth the potential rewards. Considering too that they can buy as much oil and gas as they like from the Russians and Arabs.
Indeed! Only looking at Greenhouse Emissions (funny how all of a sudden Republicans are so passionate about them) leaves a lot of other pollution problems unreported: ground water contamination, water use etc.
Fracked well are generally a mile underground below an impermeable layer of shale. The chances of ground water contamination from the well itself are pretty much nil. The disposing of water used in fracking has been a problem However that is largely recycled now.
“"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros

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Re: "Peek a Boo Oil"

Post by neverfail » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:40 am

Doc wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:24 am
neverfail wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:45 pm
Doc wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:43 pm


The US leads the world in reduction of CO2 emissions. That is due to fracking of Natural Gas. The EU has pretty much done nothing that has reduced CO2 emissions That dispite high taxes on Gasoline. While at the same time most of the EU has highly restricted Fracking. Co-incidence?
Governments even in the EU do not implement restrictions just for the sake of doing it. You are likely to find that there must be a good reason for it.
You mean like charging $3.50 tax a gallon for gasoline?
They sell petrol in litres over there doc; not gallons.

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Re: 'fracking about' with the environment.

Post by Milo » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:13 pm

Doc wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:15 am
Milo wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:31 am
neverfail wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:33 am
What are the effects of fracking on the environment?[/size]

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answer ... onment.asp

Europe is smaller and more crowded than the United States. Clearly governments there (or the EU Commission?) do not consider the risks worth the potential rewards. Considering too that they can buy as much oil and gas as they like from the Russians and Arabs.
Indeed! Only looking at Greenhouse Emissions (funny how all of a sudden Republicans are so passionate about them) leaves a lot of other pollution problems unreported: ground water contamination, water use etc.
Fracked well are generally a mile underground below an impermeable layer of shale. The chances of ground water contamination from the well itself are pretty much nil. The disposing of water used in fracking has been a problem However that is largely recycled now.
Well I'm sure we can rest easy knowing that we are "largely" free of contamination!

And what do think of the. article saying that the main reason that the US has reduced Greenhouse gas Emissions is due to renewable energy, not fracking?

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