The Trump's incriminating collusion with Russia megathread.

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Re: The Trump's incriminating collusion with Russia megathread.

Post by Mr. Perfect » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:04 pm

Maybe this is related.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/39435 ... fake-false
Poll: 72 percent say traditional outlets 'report news they know to be fake, false, or purposely misleading'
The poll of nearly 4,000 adults shows that 92 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents "say that traditional news outlets knowingly report false or misleading stories at least sometimes," a finding in line with other recent polls conducted by Pew Research and Gallup.

It found the sentiment extends to those who identify as independents and Democrats, with 79 percent of independents also saying traditional outlets knowingly report false or misleading stories at least sometimes. Democrats agree by a slight majority of 53 percent.

The poll also found that almost two-thirds of those polled say fake news "is usually reported because people have an agenda." About one-third of those polled say false information is reported because of "poor fact-checking" or laziness.

A very small percentage, or three percent, say fake news "makes headlines by accident."

Fifty-seven percent of Democrats say they use Google searches to verify facts. Less than half of Republicans, or 48 percent, do the same.

In terms of using fact-checking websites such as FactCheck.org or Snopes.com, 43 percent of Democrats say they utilize such resources, while only 30 percent of Republicans and 29 percent of independents do the same.

Trust in media was once at 74 percent in 1976 in the post-Watergate reporting era, according to Gallup.

That number dropped to 32 percent in 2016, the last time Gallup polled on the question. Just 14 percent of Republicans said they trusted the media in that poll.

President Trump has helped fuel distrust in the media even more since announcing his candidacy, often attacking the media as "fake news" and arguing that sources used in some stories "don't exist."

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Re: The Trump's incriminating collusion with Russia megathread.

Post by Mr. Perfect » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:15 pm

Mr. Perfect wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:03 pm
I wonder why this is.

Wow, it's worse than I thought. This new Gallup poll says 1% will vote on Russia this election.

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Re: The Trump's incriminating collusion with Russia megathread.

Post by Milo » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:18 pm

Mr. Perfect wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:04 pm
Maybe this is related.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/39435 ... fake-false
Poll: 72 percent say traditional outlets 'report news they know to be fake, false, or purposely misleading'
The poll of nearly 4,000 adults shows that 92 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents "say that traditional news outlets knowingly report false or misleading stories at least sometimes," a finding in line with other recent polls conducted by Pew Research and Gallup.

It found the sentiment extends to those who identify as independents and Democrats, with 79 percent of independents also saying traditional outlets knowingly report false or misleading stories at least sometimes. Democrats agree by a slight majority of 53 percent.

The poll also found that almost two-thirds of those polled say fake news "is usually reported because people have an agenda." About one-third of those polled say false information is reported because of "poor fact-checking" or laziness.

A very small percentage, or three percent, say fake news "makes headlines by accident."

Fifty-seven percent of Democrats say they use Google searches to verify facts. Less than half of Republicans, or 48 percent, do the same.

In terms of using fact-checking websites such as FactCheck.org or Snopes.com, 43 percent of Democrats say they utilize such resources, while only 30 percent of Republicans and 29 percent of independents do the same.

Trust in media was once at 74 percent in 1976 in the post-Watergate reporting era, according to Gallup.

That number dropped to 32 percent in 2016, the last time Gallup polled on the question. Just 14 percent of Republicans said they trusted the media in that poll.

President Trump has helped fuel distrust in the media even more since announcing his candidacy, often attacking the media as "fake news" and arguing that sources used in some stories "don't exist."
It's related to selection bias.

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Re: The Trump's incriminating collusion with Russia megathread.

Post by Mr. Perfect » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:38 pm

Could be. We also know this number is dropping like a rock, last year it was around 65%.

The MSM is hated.

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Re: The Trump's incriminating collusion with Russia megathread.

Post by Milo » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:51 pm

Mr. Perfect wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:38 pm
Could be. We also know this number is dropping like a rock, last year it was around 65%.

The MSM is hated.
If your first statement is true, your second isn't.

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Re: The Trump's incriminating collusion with Russia megathread.

Post by Mr. Perfect » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:00 pm

This one is just the first one I found. There are so many more.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wh ... the-media/
nate silver: Republicans hate the media a lot, and Democrats hate the media a little
.

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Re: The Trump's incriminating collusion with Russia megathread.

Post by Milo » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:52 pm

Mr. Perfect wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:00 pm
This one is just the first one I found. There are so many more.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wh ... the-media/
nate silver: Republicans hate the media a lot, and Democrats hate the media a little
.
Of course there are, there's no shortage of money to pay for biased polls to bolster political positions.

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Re: The Trump's incriminating collusion with Russia megathread.

Post by Mr. Perfect » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:13 pm

Nate Silver is Democrat leaning.

Americans hate the MSM.

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Re: The Trump's incriminating collusion with Russia megathread.

Post by Milo » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:10 pm

Mr. Perfect wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:13 pm
Nate Silver is Democrat leaning.

Americans hate the MSM.
You may buy into this neatly divided worldview but I don't.

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Re: The Trump's incriminating collusion with Russia megathread.

Post by Doc » Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:21 pm

Bottom line anyone claiming "trump Russia" collusion needs to 1)show exactly what evidence they have and 2)name the crime that Trump allegedly committed.

IF no one can, then those making the above claim are part of a lynch mob. IE They believe in guilt until posthumously proven innocent. In the case they cannot show exact evidence I suggest they should ask those that incited the lynch mob.
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