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Re: US Foreign Policy

Post by neverfail » Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:56 am

Jim the Moron wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:09 am
neverfail wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:21 pm
Jim the Moron wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:40 am
UN lambasts the USA
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/as ... 4#cxrecs_s

"The sanctions announced on Tuesday were the strongest censure yet from a western power . . ." Perhaps the useless UN might inveigle other "western powers" to follow America's lead on this. But, no, it's more politically correct to dump on the US "for not going far enough."
In this case it is neither "politically correct" nor "dumping on the US" to state the obvious Jim.
And what do you see as being "the obvious," neverfail? For anyone viewing this matter impartially, it is "obvious" that folks at the useless UN are unwilling to acknowledge US leadership in this matter.
:lol: Acknowledge US leadership? How can they acknowledge something that is not forthcoming?

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Re: US Foreign Policy

Post by Jim the Moron » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:10 am

neverfail wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:56 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:09 am
neverfail wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:21 pm
Jim the Moron wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:40 am
UN lambasts the USA
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/as ... 4#cxrecs_s

"The sanctions announced on Tuesday were the strongest censure yet from a western power . . ." Perhaps the useless UN might inveigle other "western powers" to follow America's lead on this. But, no, it's more politically correct to dump on the US "for not going far enough."
In this case it is neither "politically correct" nor "dumping on the US" to state the obvious Jim.
And what do you see as being "the obvious," neverfail? For anyone viewing this matter impartially, it is "obvious" that folks at the useless UN are unwilling to acknowledge US leadership in this matter.
:lol: Acknowledge US leadership? How can they acknowledge something that is not forthcoming?
You apparently didn't read the linked news item. No surprise there. On occasion the US foreign policy folks do something right.

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Re: US Foreign Policy

Post by neverfail » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:45 pm

Jim the Moron wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:10 am
neverfail wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:56 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:09 am
neverfail wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:21 pm
Jim the Moron wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:40 am
UN lambasts the USA
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/as ... 4#cxrecs_s

"The sanctions announced on Tuesday were the strongest censure yet from a western power . . ." Perhaps the useless UN might inveigle other "western powers" to follow America's lead on this. But, no, it's more politically correct to dump on the US "for not going far enough."
In this case it is neither "politically correct" nor "dumping on the US" to state the obvious Jim.
And what do you see as being "the obvious," neverfail? For anyone viewing this matter impartially, it is "obvious" that folks at the useless UN are unwilling to acknowledge US leadership in this matter.
:lol: Acknowledge US leadership? How can they acknowledge something that is not forthcoming?
You apparently didn't read the linked news item. No surprise there. On occasion the US foreign policy folks do something right.
OH, but I did!

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The "exceptional" embrace...

Post by Sertorio » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:28 am

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Re: US Foreign Policy

Post by Sertorio » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:10 pm

Suddenly, Western “Regime” Changes Keep Failing
by Andre Vltchek

It used to be done regularly and it worked: The West identified a country as its enemy, unleashed its professional propaganda against it, then administered a series of sanctions, starving and murdering children, the elderly and other vulnerable groups. If the country did not collapse within months or just couple of years, the bombing would begin.

And the nation, totally shaken, in pain, and in disarray, would collapse like a house of cards, once the first NATO boots hit its ground.

Such scenarios were re-enacted, again and again, from Yugoslavia to Iraq.

But suddenly, something significant has happened. This horrific lawlessness, this chaos stopped; was deterred.

The West keeps using the same tactics, it tries to terrorize independent-minded countries, to frighten people into submission, to overthrow what it defines as ‘regimes’, but its power, its monstrously destructive power has all of a sudden become ineffective.

It hits, and the attacked nation shakes, screams, sheds blood, but keeps standing, keeps proudly erect.

*

What we are experiencing is a great moment in human history. Imperialism has not yet been defeated, but it is losing its global grip on power.

Now we have to clearly understand ‘Why?’, so we can continue our struggle, with even greater determination, with even greater effectiveness.

First of all, by now we know that the West cannot fight. It can spend trillions on ‘defense’, it can build nuclear bombs, ‘smart missiles’ and strategic warplanes. But it is too cowardly, too spoiled to risk the lives of its soldiers.

It either kills remotely, or by using regional mercenaries. Whenever it becomes clear that the presence of its troops would be required, it backs up.

Secondly, it, the West, is totally horrified of the fact that there are now two super-powerful countries – China and Russia – which are unwilling to abandon their allies. Washington and London do all they can to smear Russia and to intimidate China.

Russia is being provoked continuously: by propaganda, by military bases, sanctions and by new and newer bizarre mass media inventions that depict it as the villain in all imaginable circumstances.

China has been provoked practically and insanely, ‘on all fronts’ – from Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tibet and the so-called ‘Uyghur Issue’, to trade.

Any strategy that could weaken these two countries, is applied. Yet, Russia and China do not crumble. They do not surrender. And they do not abandon their friends. Instead, they are building great railroads in Africa and Asia, they educate people from almost all poor and desperate countries, and stand by those who are being terrorized by both North America and Europe.

Thirdly, all the countries in the world are now clearly aware of what would happen to them, if they give up and get ‘liberated’ by the Western empire. Iraq, Honduras, Indonesia, Libya and Afghanistan, are the ‘best’ examples.

Submitting themselves to the West, countries can only expect misery, absolute collapse and the ruthless extraction of their resources. The poorest country in Asia – Afghanistan – has totally collapsed under NATO occupation.

The suffering and pain of the Afghan and Iraqi people is very well known to the citizens of Iran and Venezuela. They are not giving up, because no matter how tough their life is under sanctions and the West-administered terror, they are well-aware of the fact that things could get worse, much worse, if their countries were to be occupied and governed by the Washington and London-injected maniacs.

And everyone knows the fate of the people living in Palestine or Gollan Heights, places which have been overrun by the closest ally of the West in the Middle East, Israel.

*

Of course, there are other reasons why the West cannot get any of its adversaries to kneel.

One is – that the toughest ones are left. Russia, Cuba, China, North Korea (DPRK), Iran, Syria and Venezuela are not going to run away from the battlefield. These are the most determined nations on earth. These are the countries that have already lost thousands, millions, even tens of millions of their people, in the fight against Western imperialism and colonialism.

If one is following the latest attacks of the West carefully, the scenario is pathetic, almost grotesque: Washington and often the EU, too, are trying hard; they are hitting, they are spending billions of dollars, using the local mercenaries (or call it ‘local opposition’), and then they quickly withdraw after wretched but anticipated defeat.

So far, Venezuela has survived. Syria survived. Iran survived. China is fighting horrible Western-backed subversions, but it is proudly surviving. Russia is standing tall.

This is a tremendous moment in human history. For the first time, Western imperialism is being not only defeated, but fully unveiled and humiliated. Many are now laughing at it, openly.

But we should not celebrate, yet. We should understand what and why this is happening, and then continue fighting. There are many, many battles ahead us. But we are on the right track.

Let them try. We know how to fight. We know how to prevail. We have already fought fascism, in many of its forms. We know what freedom is. Their ‘freedom’ is not our freedom. Their ‘liberty’ is not our liberty. What they call ‘democracy’ is not how we want our people to rule and to be ruled. Let them go away; we, our people, do not want them!

They cannot overthrow our systems, because they are, precisely our systems! Systems that we want, that our people want; systems we are ready to fight and die for!

https://off-guardian.org/2019/08/26/sud ... p-failing/
Not what the Western fake-news factories publish, but the truth nevertheless...

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Re: US Foreign Policy

Post by neverfail » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:34 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:10 pm
Suddenly, Western “Regime” Changes Keep Failing
by Andre Vltchek

It used to be done regularly and it worked: The West identified a country as its enemy, unleashed its professional propaganda against it, then administered a series of sanctions, starving and murdering children, the elderly and other vulnerable groups. If the country did not collapse within months or just couple of years, the bombing would begin.

And the nation, totally shaken, in pain, and in disarray, would collapse like a house of cards, once the first NATO boots hit its ground.

Such scenarios were re-enacted, again and again, from Yugoslavia to Iraq.

But suddenly, something significant has happened. This horrific lawlessness, this chaos stopped; was deterred.

The West keeps using the same tactics, it tries to terrorize independent-minded countries, to frighten people into submission, to overthrow what it defines as ‘regimes’, but its power, its monstrously destructive power has all of a sudden become ineffective.

It hits, and the attacked nation shakes, screams, sheds blood, but keeps standing, keeps proudly erect.

*

What we are experiencing is a great moment in human history. Imperialism has not yet been defeated, but it is losing its global grip on power.

Now we have to clearly understand ‘Why?’, so we can continue our struggle, with even greater determination, with even greater effectiveness.

First of all, by now we know that the West cannot fight. It can spend trillions on ‘defense’, it can build nuclear bombs, ‘smart missiles’ and strategic warplanes. But it is too cowardly, too spoiled to risk the lives of its soldiers.

It either kills remotely, or by using regional mercenaries. Whenever it becomes clear that the presence of its troops would be required, it backs up.

Secondly, it, the West, is totally horrified of the fact that there are now two super-powerful countries – China and Russia – which are unwilling to abandon their allies. Washington and London do all they can to smear Russia and to intimidate China.

Russia is being provoked continuously: by propaganda, by military bases, sanctions and by new and newer bizarre mass media inventions that depict it as the villain in all imaginable circumstances.

China has been provoked practically and insanely, ‘on all fronts’ – from Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tibet and the so-called ‘Uyghur Issue’, to trade.

Any strategy that could weaken these two countries, is applied. Yet, Russia and China do not crumble. They do not surrender. And they do not abandon their friends. Instead, they are building great railroads in Africa and Asia, they educate people from almost all poor and desperate countries, and stand by those who are being terrorized by both North America and Europe.

Thirdly, all the countries in the world are now clearly aware of what would happen to them, if they give up and get ‘liberated’ by the Western empire. Iraq, Honduras, Indonesia, Libya and Afghanistan, are the ‘best’ examples.

Submitting themselves to the West, countries can only expect misery, absolute collapse and the ruthless extraction of their resources. The poorest country in Asia – Afghanistan – has totally collapsed under NATO occupation.

The suffering and pain of the Afghan and Iraqi people is very well known to the citizens of Iran and Venezuela. They are not giving up, because no matter how tough their life is under sanctions and the West-administered terror, they are well-aware of the fact that things could get worse, much worse, if their countries were to be occupied and governed by the Washington and London-injected maniacs.

And everyone knows the fate of the people living in Palestine or Gollan Heights, places which have been overrun by the closest ally of the West in the Middle East, Israel.

*

Of course, there are other reasons why the West cannot get any of its adversaries to kneel.

One is – that the toughest ones are left. Russia, Cuba, China, North Korea (DPRK), Iran, Syria and Venezuela are not going to run away from the battlefield. These are the most determined nations on earth. These are the countries that have already lost thousands, millions, even tens of millions of their people, in the fight against Western imperialism and colonialism.

If one is following the latest attacks of the West carefully, the scenario is pathetic, almost grotesque: Washington and often the EU, too, are trying hard; they are hitting, they are spending billions of dollars, using the local mercenaries (or call it ‘local opposition’), and then they quickly withdraw after wretched but anticipated defeat.

So far, Venezuela has survived. Syria survived. Iran survived. China is fighting horrible Western-backed subversions, but it is proudly surviving. Russia is standing tall.

This is a tremendous moment in human history. For the first time, Western imperialism is being not only defeated, but fully unveiled and humiliated. Many are now laughing at it, openly.

But we should not celebrate, yet. We should understand what and why this is happening, and then continue fighting. There are many, many battles ahead us. But we are on the right track.

Let them try. We know how to fight. We know how to prevail. We have already fought fascism, in many of its forms. We know what freedom is. Their ‘freedom’ is not our freedom. Their ‘liberty’ is not our liberty. What they call ‘democracy’ is not how we want our people to rule and to be ruled. Let them go away; we, our people, do not want them!

They cannot overthrow our systems, because they are, precisely our systems! Systems that we want, that our people want; systems we are ready to fight and die for!

https://off-guardian.org/2019/08/26/sud ... p-failing/
Not what the Western fake-news factories publish, but the truth nevertheless...
A bullshit diatribe, Sertorio; not the truth at all.

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Re: US Foreign Policy

Post by Sertorio » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:04 am

neverfail wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:34 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:10 pm
Suddenly, Western “Regime” Changes Keep Failing
by Andre Vltchek

It used to be done regularly and it worked: The West identified a country as its enemy, unleashed its professional propaganda against it, then administered a series of sanctions, starving and murdering children, the elderly and other vulnerable groups. If the country did not collapse within months or just couple of years, the bombing would begin.

And the nation, totally shaken, in pain, and in disarray, would collapse like a house of cards, once the first NATO boots hit its ground.

Such scenarios were re-enacted, again and again, from Yugoslavia to Iraq.

But suddenly, something significant has happened. This horrific lawlessness, this chaos stopped; was deterred.

The West keeps using the same tactics, it tries to terrorize independent-minded countries, to frighten people into submission, to overthrow what it defines as ‘regimes’, but its power, its monstrously destructive power has all of a sudden become ineffective.

It hits, and the attacked nation shakes, screams, sheds blood, but keeps standing, keeps proudly erect.

*

What we are experiencing is a great moment in human history. Imperialism has not yet been defeated, but it is losing its global grip on power.

Now we have to clearly understand ‘Why?’, so we can continue our struggle, with even greater determination, with even greater effectiveness.

First of all, by now we know that the West cannot fight. It can spend trillions on ‘defense’, it can build nuclear bombs, ‘smart missiles’ and strategic warplanes. But it is too cowardly, too spoiled to risk the lives of its soldiers.

It either kills remotely, or by using regional mercenaries. Whenever it becomes clear that the presence of its troops would be required, it backs up.

Secondly, it, the West, is totally horrified of the fact that there are now two super-powerful countries – China and Russia – which are unwilling to abandon their allies. Washington and London do all they can to smear Russia and to intimidate China.

Russia is being provoked continuously: by propaganda, by military bases, sanctions and by new and newer bizarre mass media inventions that depict it as the villain in all imaginable circumstances.

China has been provoked practically and insanely, ‘on all fronts’ – from Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tibet and the so-called ‘Uyghur Issue’, to trade.

Any strategy that could weaken these two countries, is applied. Yet, Russia and China do not crumble. They do not surrender. And they do not abandon their friends. Instead, they are building great railroads in Africa and Asia, they educate people from almost all poor and desperate countries, and stand by those who are being terrorized by both North America and Europe.

Thirdly, all the countries in the world are now clearly aware of what would happen to them, if they give up and get ‘liberated’ by the Western empire. Iraq, Honduras, Indonesia, Libya and Afghanistan, are the ‘best’ examples.

Submitting themselves to the West, countries can only expect misery, absolute collapse and the ruthless extraction of their resources. The poorest country in Asia – Afghanistan – has totally collapsed under NATO occupation.

The suffering and pain of the Afghan and Iraqi people is very well known to the citizens of Iran and Venezuela. They are not giving up, because no matter how tough their life is under sanctions and the West-administered terror, they are well-aware of the fact that things could get worse, much worse, if their countries were to be occupied and governed by the Washington and London-injected maniacs.

And everyone knows the fate of the people living in Palestine or Gollan Heights, places which have been overrun by the closest ally of the West in the Middle East, Israel.

*

Of course, there are other reasons why the West cannot get any of its adversaries to kneel.

One is – that the toughest ones are left. Russia, Cuba, China, North Korea (DPRK), Iran, Syria and Venezuela are not going to run away from the battlefield. These are the most determined nations on earth. These are the countries that have already lost thousands, millions, even tens of millions of their people, in the fight against Western imperialism and colonialism.

If one is following the latest attacks of the West carefully, the scenario is pathetic, almost grotesque: Washington and often the EU, too, are trying hard; they are hitting, they are spending billions of dollars, using the local mercenaries (or call it ‘local opposition’), and then they quickly withdraw after wretched but anticipated defeat.

So far, Venezuela has survived. Syria survived. Iran survived. China is fighting horrible Western-backed subversions, but it is proudly surviving. Russia is standing tall.

This is a tremendous moment in human history. For the first time, Western imperialism is being not only defeated, but fully unveiled and humiliated. Many are now laughing at it, openly.

But we should not celebrate, yet. We should understand what and why this is happening, and then continue fighting. There are many, many battles ahead us. But we are on the right track.

Let them try. We know how to fight. We know how to prevail. We have already fought fascism, in many of its forms. We know what freedom is. Their ‘freedom’ is not our freedom. Their ‘liberty’ is not our liberty. What they call ‘democracy’ is not how we want our people to rule and to be ruled. Let them go away; we, our people, do not want them!

They cannot overthrow our systems, because they are, precisely our systems! Systems that we want, that our people want; systems we are ready to fight and die for!

https://off-guardian.org/2019/08/26/sud ... p-failing/
Not what the Western fake-news factories publish, but the truth nevertheless...
A bullshit diatribe, Sertorio; not the truth at all.
I can understand why you don't like it. But you should know something about the writer before being so superficially negative. Intelligent people have good reasons to believe in the things they believe and to say the things they say. You may disagree, but you would be wrong dismissing those messages, just because you don't like them. We learn more from people we disagree with than from people who seem to think like us. Our society is more rotten than you would like to believe, our governements are more aggressive and violent than we are prepared to recognize. Therefore it is good to have people who - sometimes a bit excessively - point out where we are wrong. Only then may we be ready to do something to change what is truly rotten in our societies. Living in some kind of democracy, maybe we should start by supporting those who are willing to promote that change. Voting for honest people could be a good start...

If you want to know more about the author of the quoted article, maybe you should read his interview here:

http://www.pravdareport.com/world/142085-andre_vltchek/

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Re: US Foreign Policy

Post by neverfail » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:27 am

Sertorio wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:04 am

I can understand why you don't like it. But you should know something about the writer before being so superficially negative. Intelligent people have good reasons to believe in the things they believe and to say the things they say. You may disagree, but you would be wrong dismissing those messages, just because you don't like them. We learn more from people we disagree with than from people who seem to think like us. Our society is more rotten than you would like to believe, our governements are more aggressive and violent than we are prepared to recognize. Therefore it is good to have people who - sometimes a bit excessively - point out where we are wrong. Only then may we be ready to do something to change what is truly rotten in our societies. Living in some kind of democracy, maybe we should start by supporting those who are willing to promote that change. Voting for honest people could be a good start...

If you want to know more about the author of the quoted article, maybe you should read his interview here:

http://www.pravdareport.com/world/142085-andre_vltchek/
I never said that I disliked it Sertorio. To me it reads like something from out of la-la land. No traction with reality as I know it: therefore nothing to dislike about it.

Don Quixote sincerely believed that the windmills he tilted at were outrageous giants. But just because he was sincere in his convictions did not make his perceptions right.

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Re: US Foreign Policy

Post by Sertorio » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:29 am

neverfail wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:27 am
Sertorio wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:04 am

I can understand why you don't like it. But you should know something about the writer before being so superficially negative. Intelligent people have good reasons to believe in the things they believe and to say the things they say. You may disagree, but you would be wrong dismissing those messages, just because you don't like them. We learn more from people we disagree with than from people who seem to think like us. Our society is more rotten than you would like to believe, our governements are more aggressive and violent than we are prepared to recognize. Therefore it is good to have people who - sometimes a bit excessively - point out where we are wrong. Only then may we be ready to do something to change what is truly rotten in our societies. Living in some kind of democracy, maybe we should start by supporting those who are willing to promote that change. Voting for honest people could be a good start...

If you want to know more about the author of the quoted article, maybe you should read his interview here:

http://www.pravdareport.com/world/142085-andre_vltchek/
I never said that I disliked it Sertorio. To me it reads like something from out of la-la land. No traction with reality as I know it: therefore nothing to dislike about it.

Don Quixote sincerely believed that the windmills he tilted at were outrageous giants. But just because he was sincere in his convictions did not make his perceptions right.
The trouble is our looking at outrageous exploitative giants and think they are just harmless windmills...

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Re: US Foreign Policy

Post by Jim the Moron » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:36 am

"The two most severe challenges to the multilateral order today are the relative decline of American power, and the emergence of China as a rival power to the US in global organisations . . . Over the last decade there has been an observable decline in America's capacity to shape multilateral affairs."

Say what? Please be aware that there are plenty of folks out there who don't believe that the US needs to be taken up by "multilateral affairs." That the European Council on Foreign Relations would like to see the US so involved is of course expected from folks who wish the US to do the dirty work for them.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/09/05/se ... ernational organization/

The US need not be concerned about the UN or any other outfit devoted to "multilateral affairs." Rather, it should continue to maintain superior defensive capabilities. Good use of US military resources is the ongoing assistance to the folks in the Bahamas

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