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Re: US Foreign Policy

Post by Sertorio » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:44 am

armchair_pundit wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:35 am
Sertorio wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:21 am
I am delighted! Except that Americans are not in Europe to defend Europe but to defend US selfish and illegitimate interests. That's why only 12,000 are withdrawn from Germany, otherwise the whole 36,000 would be gone. But Americans love to act the victims, even when they are the predators... I'm hoping the remaining 24,000 will be kicked out by the Germans themselves...
Those 12,000 are moving. Ironically, to a country that Germany has tied to "claim" many times, Poland.
Poland has no friends in Europe, besides the French who are quite useless. On what concerns Americans they are too far and too unreliable to be of any use to Poland. The only solution is being nice to its neighbours - Germany and Russia - and try to function as a bridge between them.

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Re: US Foreign Policy

Post by armchair_pundit » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:51 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:44 am
armchair_pundit wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:35 am
Sertorio wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:21 am
I am delighted! Except that Americans are not in Europe to defend Europe but to defend US selfish and illegitimate interests. That's why only 12,000 are withdrawn from Germany, otherwise the whole 36,000 would be gone. But Americans love to act the victims, even when they are the predators... I'm hoping the remaining 24,000 will be kicked out by the Germans themselves...
Those 12,000 are moving. Ironically, to a country that Germany has tied to "claim" many times, Poland.
Poland has no friends in Europe, besides the French who are quite useless. On what concerns Americans they are too far and too unreliable to be of any use to Poland. The only solution is being nice to its neighbours - Germany and Russia - and try to function as a bridge between them.
I thought you'd like that...

If you'd like I can speak with my congress critter and point out the Portugal is rather defenseless, and could use a base or two... good jobs servicing the man, ya know! :mrgreen:

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Re: US Foreign Policy

Post by neverfail » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:05 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:44 am

Poland has no friends in Europe, besides the French who are quite useless. On what concerns Americans they are too far and too unreliable to be of any use to Poland. The only solution is being nice to its neighbours - Germany and Russia - and try to function as a bridge between them.
I question whether your contention that"Poland has no friends in Europe" is true. More likely wishful thinking on your part Sertorio.

US troops in Poland are like a "tripwire" scenario for Russia:(i.e. message to Putin - 'if you mess with Poland then you will have to fight the USA as well.' ) Same 'hands off' message that those 30,000 US troopsstationed in South Korea provide for the North Korean dictator.

It is the fact that they are there at all that = committment.

By the way: since Poland lies between Russia and Germany those 20,000 in Poland would still effectively shelter Germany from Russian ambitions as if they have never left German soil.

:? :? :? :?

That is very perplexing as Trump keeps on reassuring us that his relationship with Vladimar Putin is 'just great'. The fact that he ordered those US troops to Poland implies that he does not trust Putin. How can a "just great" relationship be based on mistrust?

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Re: US Foreign Policy

Post by Jim the Moron » Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:35 pm

neverfail wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:05 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:44 am

Poland has no friends in Europe, besides the French who are quite useless. On what concerns Americans they are too far and too unreliable to be of any use to Poland. The only solution is being nice to its neighbours - Germany and Russia - and try to function as a bridge between them.
I question whether your contention that"Poland has no friends in Europe" is true. More likely wishful thinking on your part Sertorio.

US troops in Poland are like a "tripwire" scenario for Russia:(i.e. message to Putin - 'if you mess with Poland then you will have to fight the USA as well.' ) Same 'hands off' message that those 30,000 US troopsstationed in South Korea provide for the North Korean dictator.

It is the fact that they are there at all that = committment.

By the way: since Poland lies between Russia and Germany those 20,000 in Poland would still effectively shelter Germany from Russian ambitions as if they have never left German soil.

:? :? :? :?

That is very perplexing as Trump keeps on reassuring us that his relationship with Vladimar Putin is 'just great'. The fact that he ordered those US troops to Poland implies that he does not trust Putin. How can a "just great" relationship be based on mistrust?
The whole idea of removing the US troups from Germany is to eventualy get all American forces out of Europe 20,000 are not being reassigned to Poland - rather approx 6,000 (see the Politico article). Another approx 6,000 are returning to the US (a good start), leaving over 20,000 in Germany. As always, it is recommended that posters actually read the referenced links before commenting on them.

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Re: US Foreign Policy

Post by Jim the Moron » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:52 pm

"US, Russia in unholy war for Middle East Christians"
https://asiatimes.com/2020/08/us-russia ... hristians/

Picture, if you will, opposed crusading forces vying for the holy city of Damascus. On the one hand, astride a frisky pony, we have Sir Vladimir bearing the colors oi Orthodoxy. At the forefront carrying the standard of the opposing Evangelists is Sir Donald, perched on a weary donkey. Heads will roll.

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Re: US Foreign Policy

Post by Sertorio » Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:50 am

US Sanctions on Russian Institute Working on Sputnik V Caused by Fear to Lose Leadership

https://sputniknews.com/analysis/202008 ... eadership/

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In the eyes of US policymakers Russia's lead in the race for an anti-coronavirus vaccine clearly goes against "the America-first idea", admits Andy Vermaut, a Belgian human rights activist and political commentator. However, though it is very painful for them, the Americans are not always the first in everything, he stresses, adding that "on a scientific level, the United States is not always the most advanced either".

"That has everything to do with too little investment in its educational institutions", the activist says. "There is also something seriously wrong with the school system in the United States. This is mainly due to the fact that defence absorbs far too much of their budget. The United States mainly wants to be able to bark at others, and then of course it is useful to keep your population as stupid as possible, which is why the Russian innovations could get people thinking".

In order to divert public attention in the US away from its flaws in handling the coronavirus pandemic, Washington goes on the attack "to demonise Moscow as much as possible" since "Russia as an innovative centre on the world stage does not fit in that story of American imperialism, with which it feels embarrassed"

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Re: US Foreign Policy

Post by Sertorio » Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:12 am

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If the United States had to fight Russia in a Baltic contingency or China in a war over Taiwan, Americans could face a decisive military defeat. These two nations possess precision-strike capabilities, integrated air defenses, cruise and ballistic missiles, advanced cyberwarfare and anti-satellite capabilities, significant air and naval forces, and nuclear weapons—a suite of advanced capabilities heretofore possessed only by the United States. The U.S. military would face daunting challenges in establishing air superiority or sea control and retaking territory lost early in a conflict. Against an enemy equipped with advanced anti-access/area denial capabilities, attrition of U.S. capital assets—ships, planes, tanks—could be enormous. The prolonged, deliberate buildup of overwhelming force in theater that has traditionally been the hallmark of American expeditionary warfare would be vastly more difficult and costly, if it were possible at all. Put bluntly, the U.S. military could lose the next state-versus-state war it fights.

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Taken from "The Assessment and Recommendations of the National Defense Strategy Commission"

https://www.usip.org/sites/default/file ... efense.pdf

Maybe the US should change its foreign policy...

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Re: US Foreign Policy

Post by lzzrdgrrl » Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:27 pm

'America First' Works in the Middle East

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“America First” has worked wonders in the Middle East. The utopians who tried to remake the Middle East into a set of Western-style democracies created a disaster. When George W. Bush forced majority rule onto Iraq, he got a sectarian Shi’ite state that allied with Iran. The Sunni minority who had ruled Iraq under Saddam Hussein lost its state protection, and inevitably sought the protection of “non-state actors,” that is, al-Qaeda and ISIS. As Mike Flynn warned in 2012, the Obama administration’s support for Sunni radicals fighting the Assad regime in Syria helped ISIS emerge. Russia intervened in Syria in 2015–as a former Israeli national security advisor explained to me–because the country had become a Petri dish for terrorists who threatened Russia’s Muslim southern flank.
https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2020/08/26 ... st-n847151

Or read the full article here.....'>......
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Re: US Foreign Policy

Post by Jim the Moron » Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:12 am

Iraq Withdrawal:
https://nationalreview.com/news/trump-a ... rd-report/

There are the partial withdrawals from Afghanistan and Germany, and now this announcement re Iraq. All good starts, but cold turkey total withdrawals are desirable. So what if, subsequently, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. get swallowed up by Islamic extremists? Let the barbarians prevail in barbaric lands.

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Re: US Foreign Policy

Post by Jim the Moron » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:06 am

A new sheriff in town . . .

"The Israel-Sunni Arab Bloc"
https://jns.org/opinion/the-israel-sunn ... w-sheriff/

"The Johnson [PM Boris] government has continued to act as a loyal member (or vassal) of the European Union."

"The British Foreign Office, like the European Union and the United Nations, reacted coldly to the news that Israel and the UAE are normalizing relations." (Screw the UK, the EU, and the UN.)

"If Trump is re-elected in November, [the Israel-Sunni Arab] stabilizing bloc whose members stand against both Sunni and Shi'ite jihadists will expand and the circle of formal ties between Israel and the Gulf states will grow."

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