EllenS wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:45 am
Envious of what, you ask? Good question. I have often wondered over the course of my life why Europeans are so obsessed with Israel and Jews. There are approximately 200 territorial disputes ongoing in the world, some much more serious and violent than the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (note Syria, Libya, Lebanon, Yemen, Iran). Yet, the only one that the EU insists on mentioning in its ponderous press releases and statements of policy is the Israeli-Palestinian one. Literally every pronouncement they make includes this one item, in spite of the fact that the West Bank and its Israeli settlements are, at present, one of the few islands of peace in the entire Middle East. In fact, the Arabs of the West Bank are the ONLY Arabs in the MidEast that are not in danger of being slaughtered by their fellow Arabs. That is because the Israeli Army has a security umbrella over this entire territory, including the part that is ruled over by the PA.
Spengler had his ideas as to why Europeans are obsessed with Israel. Any one with a taste for psychopathology can offer their own reasons for this apparently unhealthy preoccupation. Whatever, Israelis have grown terminably tired of listening to European dictates about what they must or must not do. The fate of the Jews in Israel is the responsibility of the Israeli government, not the EU or individual European states, such as Portugal. The Arabs and Jews of the Land of Israel will end up whereever they end up, but it won't be a one-state solution, unless that one state is called Jordan.
Unlike the past, Europeans no longer control the world, or the major ideas and ideologies of the world. They no longer are the main center of the advanced industrial world, and not even in second place. Their poisonous and peculiar prejudices against the Jewish people are now in the same bucket as those of the Arabs, those of a declining or declined power. In my view, the EU is a bigger enemy of Israel than the Arabs. And now, both are sinking into the sunset. I am happy to see the rebirth of the Jewish state after 2000 years, and to be a part of this amazing miracle. For those who don't like it, it's really a crying shame, but of no particular consequence.
Nice reply - with nothing I wish to dissent from but this one point - it won't be Jordan
In 1968, in the aftermath of the stunning 1967 Israeli military victory and occupation of what has since been dubbed the West Bank
; the then King of Jordan rescinded
the Jordanian citizenship of the entire Palestinian population (I believe around 2 million of them). Had it not been for that Israel could have negotiated a return of territory and population similar to the return of Sinai to Egypt. Thanks to that Jordanian move the West Bank Arabs have ever since been an unloved, stateless people.
Why did the Jordanian government make such an apparently iillogical policy move? I would be clueless abnout the reason were it not for the fact that years ago I had a Palestinian acquaintence who provided me with the sort of insight you would need to know someone from there to have - as this has attracted no publicity by the international mass media. It has a lot to do with the class structure and power maldistribution within Jordan.
The reason is that while the majority population of Jordan (yes, even the downsized Jordan of today) is in fact Palestinian, it's rulers are not.
My Palestinian informant described the Jordanian elite as 'desert Arabs'
(ex-Bedouin): quite distinct from the long settled Palestinian Arabs. This latter's role in Jordan are that of farmers; town shopkeepers and merchants; manufacturers etc (i.e. the Jordanian private enterprise sector). The former tax them to support the government agencies: police, army and civil service - all of which are staffed with desert Arabs.
One might compare the 1968 Jordanian decision to repudiate Jordanian citizenship for the West Bank Palestinians with the 1965 decision by the Malaysian government to expel Singapore from the Malaysia Federation. That government represented Malay interests. Ridding Malaysia of Singapore meant for the price of losing a small chunk of territory and a small number of Malays it was able to rid Malaysia of a much larger number of Chinese. That rebalanced Malaysia's demographics to provide an ethnic Malay majority population.
For Jordan expelling around 2 million Palestinian ex-subjects like that in 1968 still meant that Palestinians formed the majority population of Jordan - but a much smaller
majority than it did before the Israeli conquest and occupation of the West Bank - and as such less of a threat to the desert Arab grip on power. In other words: We don't want these people (or their land) back so you are welcome to them - they are your problem from now on Israel.
So Ellen: do you beliebve that Jordan would ever change its mind and reverse the decision it made re. the fate of the West Bank back in 1968? No more than the ethnic Malay rulers in Kuala Lumpur would dream of re-admitting Singapore.