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Re: Israel

Post by dagbay » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:01 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:17 pm
Milo wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:15 pm
dagbay wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:42 am
Sertorio wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:45 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:10 pm
"Calls to eliminate both Israel and US'"
https://timesofisrael.com/at-brooklyn-p ... el-and-us/

"Death to Israel and death to America"

The latest chant led by Iranian honchos? Nope - this was courtesy of "American" mouth-breathers.
If Israel and the US were two less aggressive states, there would be fewer calls for the elimination of both of them.
Right you are Sertorio particularly as far as your statement applies to The State Of Israel. If it was not so aggressive in its protection of itself it would pass out of existence. Any time it tried to be less "aggressive " the following period was marked by explosive backlash against its citizens.
As for the USA, the stakes are higher. The world is in my view safer when the US is dominant although I agree that this dominance was used in misguided and unfair not to mention cruel ways at many instances.
The proper test of the fitness of American dominance is to ask yourself, what would, say, Syria; do if it had the power of the US? Nobody would imagine a better world!
Syria is no alternative to the US. But Europe might...
Sorry Sertorio, you lost me here. Euroba is forever locked in Muslim occupation, invasion, migration (pick your term) may not even survive intact let alone lead the world.
I'd rather be diving or flying alas for now I am on terra firma.

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Re: Israel

Post by Sertorio » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:01 am

dagbay wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:01 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:17 pm
Milo wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:15 pm
dagbay wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:42 am
Sertorio wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:45 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:10 pm
"Calls to eliminate both Israel and US'"
https://timesofisrael.com/at-brooklyn-p ... el-and-us/

"Death to Israel and death to America"

The latest chant led by Iranian honchos? Nope - this was courtesy of "American" mouth-breathers.
If Israel and the US were two less aggressive states, there would be fewer calls for the elimination of both of them.
Right you are Sertorio particularly as far as your statement applies to The State Of Israel. If it was not so aggressive in its protection of itself it would pass out of existence. Any time it tried to be less "aggressive " the following period was marked by explosive backlash against its citizens.
As for the USA, the stakes are higher. The world is in my view safer when the US is dominant although I agree that this dominance was used in misguided and unfair not to mention cruel ways at many instances.
The proper test of the fitness of American dominance is to ask yourself, what would, say, Syria; do if it had the power of the US? Nobody would imagine a better world!
Syria is no alternative to the US. But Europe might...
Sorry Sertorio, you lost me here. Euroba is forever locked in Muslim occupation, invasion, migration (pick your term) may not even survive intact let alone lead the world.
I find it highly amusing to see how some Americans systematically underestimate Europe and the Europeans, maybe to try and justify their occupation of our continent... Muslim immigrants will either become more developed as they live among us, and integrate, or they will be expelled. Because, structurally, a Muslim is no worse than, for instance, an Evangelic or a Baptist Christian...

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Re: Israel

Post by Jim the Moron » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:15 pm

Explosions in Iran

https://jpost.com/breaking-news/explosi ... ran-634574

Bibi was assked about these events. His reply: "I don't know nuthin about that. So nuke facilities and missile depots got trashed? Tragic."

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Re: Israel

Post by Jim the Moron » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:30 pm

"Hezbollah missile launch sites"
https://jpost.com/middle-east/israeli-r ... tes-634911

Seems as if Hezbollah took the cue from Hamas in Gaza - placing launch sites among civilian facilities.

Typical cowardly Muslim terrorist disregard for human life - Arab or otherwise.

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Re: Israel

Post by Jim the Moron » Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:28 pm

Israel-related funding sails through Congress.
https://jpost.com/diaspora/aipac-praise ... ess-636268

Billions appropriately assigned - to one of America's key allies . . .

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Re: Israel

Post by Jim the Moron » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:11 pm

Israel/UAE peace agreement
https://timesofisrael.com/in-historic-d ... lize-ties/

Call me a skeptic, but I'm distrustful of any "agreements" with Islamic entities. OK for now, but . . .

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Re: Israel

Post by dagbay » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:07 am

Jim the Moron wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:11 pm
Israel/UAE peace agreement
https://timesofisrael.com/in-historic-d ... lize-ties/

Call me a skeptic, but I'm distrustful of any "agreements" with Islamic entities. OK for now, but . . .
Right on the money, Jim. This announcement of a normalization of UAE-Israel relation is just the first of hidden anti-Iran interested parties revealing their interests. This is also a sign that the Arab - Israeli conflict is not about land of which there is plenty in the region. Most of the anti-Israel countries in the ME have no border disputes with Israel and their political alignment is fracturing as some have began to disintegrate. Tha Arabs who live in Israel find themselves once more in the wrong side and they are digging in deeper.
I'd rather be diving or flying alas for now I am on terra firma.

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Re: Israel

Post by Sertorio » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:16 am

dagbay wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:07 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:11 pm
Israel/UAE peace agreement
https://timesofisrael.com/in-historic-d ... lize-ties/

Call me a skeptic, but I'm distrustful of any "agreements" with Islamic entities. OK for now, but . . .
Right on the money, Jim. This announcement of a normalization of UAE-Israel relation is just the first of hidden anti-Iran interested parties revealing their interests. This is also a sign that the Arab - Israeli conflict is not about land of which there is plenty in the region. Most of the anti-Israel countries in the ME have no border disputes with Israel and their political alignment is fracturing as some have began to disintegrate. Tha Arabs who live in Israel find themselves once more in the wrong side and they are digging in deeper.
The smart thing for Palestinian Arabs would be to become Israeli citizens and live peacefully ever after. Minority Muslim communities exist in many parts of the world, without any inconvenience. Why not in Israel?

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Re: Israel

Post by Milo » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:51 am

Sertorio wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:16 am
dagbay wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:07 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:11 pm
Israel/UAE peace agreement
https://timesofisrael.com/in-historic-d ... lize-ties/

Call me a skeptic, but I'm distrustful of any "agreements" with Islamic entities. OK for now, but . . .
Right on the money, Jim. This announcement of a normalization of UAE-Israel relation is just the first of hidden anti-Iran interested parties revealing their interests. This is also a sign that the Arab - Israeli conflict is not about land of which there is plenty in the region. Most of the anti-Israel countries in the ME have no border disputes with Israel and their political alignment is fracturing as some have began to disintegrate. Tha Arabs who live in Israel find themselves once more in the wrong side and they are digging in deeper.
The smart thing for Palestinian Arabs would be to become Israeli citizens and live peacefully ever after. Minority Muslim communities exist in many parts of the world, without any inconvenience. Why not in Israel?
Well first they would need some sort of assurance that they wouldn't be murdered over it!

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Re: Israel

Post by Sertorio » Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:24 am

Milo wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:51 am
Sertorio wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:16 am
dagbay wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:07 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:11 pm
Israel/UAE peace agreement
https://timesofisrael.com/in-historic-d ... lize-ties/

Call me a skeptic, but I'm distrustful of any "agreements" with Islamic entities. OK for now, but . . .
Right on the money, Jim. This announcement of a normalization of UAE-Israel relation is just the first of hidden anti-Iran interested parties revealing their interests. This is also a sign that the Arab - Israeli conflict is not about land of which there is plenty in the region. Most of the anti-Israel countries in the ME have no border disputes with Israel and their political alignment is fracturing as some have began to disintegrate. Tha Arabs who live in Israel find themselves once more in the wrong side and they are digging in deeper.
The smart thing for Palestinian Arabs would be to become Israeli citizens and live peacefully ever after. Minority Muslim communities exist in many parts of the world, without any inconvenience. Why not in Israel?
Well first they would need some sort of assurance that they wouldn't be murdered over it!
Assurance by whom? Are present Israeli Arabs threatened with murder by anyone?...

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