Sertorio wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:25 am
cassowary wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:37 am
So religions that preach self restraint, forgiveness, gentleness and love developed to help that society to live peacefully with one another. It seeks to promote a stable, peaceful society. Note that Christianity was born under Pax Romana.
Nothing more self restraining, forgiving, gentle and loving than Inquisition which was invented and developed by good Christians such as the Spaniards and our good selves in Portugal!...
Was the creed of Christianity to blame for that? I think that power politics has a lot more to do with it than religion.
I grew up in a country where the (minority) Catholic community had a history behind it, right from the start of British colonization, If anything that of a counter-culture presence within society at large. Not unusual in an English-speaking country with a majority protestant heritage for the Catholics to be (socially and politically) "on the outer
" like that. Not so much today as back then. Naturally, having grown up within a Church whose local tradition was like that I presumed that the role of the Catholic Church was that way everywhere. "We Catholics always get the rough end of the stick.
As a young adult I then undertook a module of Reformation history and discovered, to my consternation, that in other countries , more so in ages past than now, The Church had wielded enormous power of a temporal kind; enjoyed undue privilege and wealth and had been thoroughly corrupted by it.
How did I feel about it? I felt betrayed and outraged to the core of my being. " It is NOT the rightful lot of the Catholic Church to enjoy such power, privilege and wealth but instead to humbly follow in the footsteps of Jesus Christ".
It was a test for my faith; which only barely survived the test.
I have never studied the role of The Church in Portuguese society but I learned in recent years that by the early 16th century (before the reformation got under way) that the monarchies of both France and Spain had both wrested from the Vatican the right to appoint their own bishops to the Church within their respective domains. It astonished me that any Pope would ever make such a concession to any temporal ruler - yet it seems that it happened. The trouble with Church authority figures appointed by temporal governments is that they are usually appointed for reasons of political convenience. "Political" bishops like that rarely, if ever, made good spiritual leaders (let alone holy men) but instead tend to be worldly figures with all the propensity to inject worldly corruptions into a Church that ideally should be a sanctuary and safe-haven from all of that sort of shit.
Thus, especially after the ascension of King Philip the Second (Felipe Dos?) to the Spanish throne, the Inquisition was utilized as an instrument of state policy to purge Spanish society of all potential malcontents who, if left unattended to, might threaten the stability and security of the Spanish state (along with the longevity of its incumbent dynasty of kings). Think of Stalin's purges in the Soviet Union back in the 1930's; then substitute Catholic doctrine and practice for the materialist dialectic
(and other mandatory absurdities) of Soviet Communism and you may probably get the picture.
The mission of the Spanish inquisition was therefore to bring about a contrived, enforced unification of the Spanish state and Spanish society by way of every Spanish, man, woman and child, worshiping the same God in the same way; believing the same creed and having the same set of loyalties. Jews, Muslims and Protestants did not fit in and therefore needed to be weeded out and cast into the outer darkness.
Though the Catholic Church was culpable to the point where it ceded so much power to the Spanish state; the driving force behind it was the best interests of the Spanish state.