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Jim the Moron
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Re: Israel

Post by Jim the Moron » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:32 am

Trump "is the best friend the Jews have had since Cyrus the Great ended the first exile."

https://twitter.com/CarolineGlick

But not to worry. Mouthbreathers on the left will continue to label Trump as an anti-Semite (and a racist white-supremacist islamophobe baby raper).

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Re: Israel

Post by Jim the Moron » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:36 am

"Long Line of Israeli-Palestinian Peace Bids Precede Trump Push"
https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Long- ... ush-593619

As the late, great, eloquent Abba Eban once said - Arabs "never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity" for peace.

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Re: Israel

Post by dagbay » Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:54 am

Jim the Moron wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:36 am
"Long Line of Israeli-Palestinian Peace Bids Precede Trump Push"
https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Long- ... ush-593619

As the late, great, eloquent Abba Eban once said - Arabs "never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity" for peace.
Now that we know the answer of the Arabs, while no surprise and had to be offered and rejected, we can move on to a realistic future. That may not look like a peace treaty but it will have to change the facts on the ground. Sadly at this time both Arabs with a weak Abbas and Israel with inerim government due to election rules are unable to take the necessary steps.
I'd rather be diving or flying alas for now I am on terra firma.

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Re: Israel

Post by Jim the Moron » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:36 pm

The Squad and a couple of of it's like-minded anti-Semite buddies:

https://townhall.com/political-cartoons ... ?hpnl=true

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Re: Israel

Post by neverfail » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:54 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E ... ce_process

Some countries have signed peace treaties, such as the Egypt–Israel (1979) and Jordan–Israel (1994) treaties, whereas some have not yet found a mutual basis to do so.
Well, there you have it. Israel has signed peace treaties with two important Arab neighbors.

The best move the State of Israel could possibly make to ensure peace with the Palestinians would be to vanish off the face of the earth completely. :mrgreen:

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Re: Israel

Post by Sertorio » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:01 am

The price to be paid for peace is not a Palestinian state, it is giving Israel sovereignty over the whole of Palestina. Hard on Palestinians? Sure, but not harder than it was for Germans to leave East Prussia. I have no doubt that Palestinians would easily find a new home in any of the neighbouring Arab countries. But they would have to integrate with the peoples of those countries, rather than building refugee camps.

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Re: Israel

Post by neverfail » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:17 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:01 am
The price to be paid for peace is not a Palestinian state, it is giving Israel sovereignty over the whole of Palestina. Hard on Palestinians? Sure, but not harder than it was for Germans to leave East Prussia. I have no doubt that Palestinians would easily find a new home in any of the neighbouring Arab countries. But they would have to integrate with the peoples of those countries, rather than building refugee camps.
if other Arab states were even remotely appealing places to settle into, don't you think that Palestinians would have done so en masse already?

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Re: Israel

Post by Jim the Moron » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:47 pm

neverfail wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:17 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:01 am
The price to be paid for peace is not a Palestinian state, it is giving Israel sovereignty over the whole of Palestina. Hard on Palestinians? Sure, but not harder than it was for Germans to leave East Prussia. I have no doubt that Palestinians would easily find a new home in any of the neighbouring Arab countries. But they would have to integrate with the peoples of those countries, rather than building refugee camps.
if other Arab states were even remotely appealing places to settle into, don't you think that Palestinians would have done so en masse already?
So-called Palestinians exist as convenient fodder for folks eager "to vanish" Israel. The UAE and Saudi Arabia, e.g., would certainly be appealing places for non-militant Arabs in Palestine to relocate, if they would have them.

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Re: Israel

Post by neverfail » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:04 am

Jim the Moron wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:47 pm
neverfail wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:17 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:01 am
The price to be paid for peace is not a Palestinian state, it is giving Israel sovereignty over the whole of Palestina. Hard on Palestinians? Sure, but not harder than it was for Germans to leave East Prussia. I have no doubt that Palestinians would easily find a new home in any of the neighbouring Arab countries. But they would have to integrate with the peoples of those countries, rather than building refugee camps.
if other Arab states were even remotely appealing places to settle into, don't you think that Palestinians would have done so en masse already?
So-called Palestinians exist as convenient fodder for folks eager "to vanish" Israel. The UAE and Saudi Arabia, e.g., would certainly be appealing places for non-militant Arabs in Palestine to relocate, if they would have them.
The reactionary monarchies of the Arabian peninsula? I think not Jim.

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Re: Israel

Post by Jim the Moron » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:18 am

neverfail wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:04 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:47 pm
neverfail wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:17 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:01 am
The price to be paid for peace is not a Palestinian state, it is giving Israel sovereignty over the whole of Palestina. Hard on Palestinians? Sure, but not harder than it was for Germans to leave East Prussia. I have no doubt that Palestinians would easily find a new home in any of the neighbouring Arab countries. But they would have to integrate with the peoples of those countries, rather than building refugee camps.
if other Arab states were even remotely appealing places to settle into, don't you think that Palestinians would have done so en masse already?
So-called Palestinians exist as convenient fodder for folks eager "to vanish" Israel. The UAE and Saudi Arabia, e.g., would certainly be appealing places for non-militant Arabs in Palestine to relocate, if they would have them.
The reactionary monarchies of the Arabian peninsula? I think not Jim.
True enough. Muslim entities tend to not aid their co-religionists elsewhere with settlement opportunities, rather preferring to encourage (and fund) them to attack Israel.

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