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Re: Israel

Post by Doc » Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:23 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:46 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:34 am

Why is it that the Israelis object to a nuclear-armed Islamist Iran constantly declaring "death to Israel?"
Because they are dumb. Israel is not protected by Iran not having nuclear weapons. It is protected by its own nuclear weapons. Iran knows that any attack on Israel which would put Israel's existence in jeopardy would be answered by a volley of nuclear missiles against Iran's major cities, nuclear installations and oil producing centers. That's all that is necessary to keep Iran from doing anything silly. For the rest, let them continue shouting "death to Israel"... Iranians are no more suicide prone than North Koreans...
I asked a moderate Palestinian about Israel having nuclear weapons. He said they were waiting to get their own so they can make Palestine/Israel uninhabitable.
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Re: Israel

Post by SteveFoerster » Tue May 01, 2018 9:20 am

Jim the Moron wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:34 am
Why is it that the Israelis object to a nuclear-armed Islamist Iran constantly declaring "death to Israel?"
I'm not saying that the Israelis should be dismissive of Iran, but the "death to X" formulation is a common Farsi idiomatic expression, as in Iranians during rush hour will say "death to traffic".
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Re: Israel

Post by SteveFoerster » Tue May 01, 2018 9:21 am

Doc wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:23 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:46 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:34 am

Why is it that the Israelis object to a nuclear-armed Islamist Iran constantly declaring "death to Israel?"
Because they are dumb. Israel is not protected by Iran not having nuclear weapons. It is protected by its own nuclear weapons. Iran knows that any attack on Israel which would put Israel's existence in jeopardy would be answered by a volley of nuclear missiles against Iran's major cities, nuclear installations and oil producing centers. That's all that is necessary to keep Iran from doing anything silly. For the rest, let them continue shouting "death to Israel"... Iranians are no more suicide prone than North Koreans...
I asked a moderate Palestinian about Israel having nuclear weapons. He said they were waiting to get their own so they can make Palestine/Israel uninhabitable.
How does that square with Jerusalem being the third holiest city in Islam?
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Re: Israel

Post by Sertorio » Tue May 01, 2018 11:37 am

SteveFoerster wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 9:21 am
Doc wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:23 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:46 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:34 am

Why is it that the Israelis object to a nuclear-armed Islamist Iran constantly declaring "death to Israel?"
Because they are dumb. Israel is not protected by Iran not having nuclear weapons. It is protected by its own nuclear weapons. Iran knows that any attack on Israel which would put Israel's existence in jeopardy would be answered by a volley of nuclear missiles against Iran's major cities, nuclear installations and oil producing centers. That's all that is necessary to keep Iran from doing anything silly. For the rest, let them continue shouting "death to Israel"... Iranians are no more suicide prone than North Koreans...
I asked a moderate Palestinian about Israel having nuclear weapons. He said they were waiting to get their own so they can make Palestine/Israel uninhabitable.
How does that square with Jerusalem being the third holiest city in Islam?
There is absolutely no reason for Jerusalem to be holy to Islam, except the fantasy that Mohamed traveled from there to Paradise - and came back!... I think Mohamed was always jealous of Judaism and Christianity - true religions, compared to his collection of simple minded utterances. So he tried to lay claim to Jerusalem, on a pair with the other two religions. That may explain why Muslims wouldn't mind seeing Jerusalem destroyed. As long as Jews and Christians couldn't keep it...

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Re: Israel

Post by Doc » Tue May 01, 2018 3:21 pm

SteveFoerster wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 9:21 am
Doc wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:23 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:46 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:34 am

Why is it that the Israelis object to a nuclear-armed Islamist Iran constantly declaring "death to Israel?"
Because they are dumb. Israel is not protected by Iran not having nuclear weapons. It is protected by its own nuclear weapons. Iran knows that any attack on Israel which would put Israel's existence in jeopardy would be answered by a volley of nuclear missiles against Iran's major cities, nuclear installations and oil producing centers. That's all that is necessary to keep Iran from doing anything silly. For the rest, let them continue shouting "death to Israel"... Iranians are no more suicide prone than North Koreans...
I asked a moderate Palestinian about Israel having nuclear weapons. He said they were waiting to get their own so they can make Palestine/Israel uninhabitable.
How does that square with Jerusalem being the third holiest city in Islam?
It is the first holiest city in Xtainity and Judaism. The Reason the Muslims claim it at all is that believe Mohamed was transported after death miraculously to Jerusalem where he was then transported into paradise. If that was true would not Muslims claim Jerusalem was their first holyiest city? Or was it mere political intrigue to make that claim? A claim meant to assert domination?
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Re: Israel

Post by cassowary » Wed May 02, 2018 5:43 am

When Muslims ruled Jerusalem during ottoman times, they totally neglected it.

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Re: Israel

Post by cassowary » Wed May 02, 2018 5:48 am

Sertorio wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:46 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:34 am

Why is it that the Israelis object to a nuclear-armed Islamist Iran constantly declaring "death to Israel?"
Because they are dumb. Israel is not protected by Iran not having nuclear weapons. It is protected by its own nuclear weapons. Iran knows that any attack on Israel which would put Israel's existence in jeopardy would be answered by a volley of nuclear missiles against Iran's major cities, nuclear installations and oil producing centers. That's all that is necessary to keep Iran from doing anything silly. For the rest, let them continue shouting "death to Israel"... Iranians are no more suicide prone than North Koreans...
Mutually Assured Destruction does not work with fanatical Muslims in charge of Iran. They want to be martyred so as to get their hands in the 72 virgins.

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Re: Israel

Post by Sertorio » Wed May 02, 2018 7:19 am

cassowary wrote:
Wed May 02, 2018 5:48 am
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:46 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:34 am

Why is it that the Israelis object to a nuclear-armed Islamist Iran constantly declaring "death to Israel?"
Because they are dumb. Israel is not protected by Iran not having nuclear weapons. It is protected by its own nuclear weapons. Iran knows that any attack on Israel which would put Israel's existence in jeopardy would be answered by a volley of nuclear missiles against Iran's major cities, nuclear installations and oil producing centers. That's all that is necessary to keep Iran from doing anything silly. For the rest, let them continue shouting "death to Israel"... Iranians are no more suicide prone than North Koreans...
Mutually Assured Destruction does not work with fanatical Muslims in charge of Iran. They want to be martyred so as to get their hands in the 72 virgins.
Persia is a five thousand year old civilization. Islam to them is just an accident... It will eventually disappear...

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Re: Israel

Post by cassowary » Wed May 02, 2018 7:32 am

Sertorio wrote:
Wed May 02, 2018 7:19 am
cassowary wrote:
Wed May 02, 2018 5:48 am
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:46 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:34 am

Why is it that the Israelis object to a nuclear-armed Islamist Iran constantly declaring "death to Israel?"
Because they are dumb. Israel is not protected by Iran not having nuclear weapons. It is protected by its own nuclear weapons. Iran knows that any attack on Israel which would put Israel's existence in jeopardy would be answered by a volley of nuclear missiles against Iran's major cities, nuclear installations and oil producing centers. That's all that is necessary to keep Iran from doing anything silly. For the rest, let them continue shouting "death to Israel"... Iranians are no more suicide prone than North Koreans...
Mutually Assured Destruction does not work with fanatical Muslims in charge of Iran. They want to be martyred so as to get their hands in the 72 virgins.
Persia is a five thousand year old civilization. Islam to them is just an accident... It will eventually disappear...
That's what atheists say and expect religion will fade away. That is why an irreligious person like you don't take the power of religion seriously. The Japanese Kamikaze pilots believed that their Emperor was a god and thus dying for him was an honor. They also believed that they will become gods too if they died for him.

Islam is in a similar stage today. The 911 suicide attackers believed that they were going to paradise and their 72 virgins.

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Re: Israel

Post by Jim the Moron » Mon May 14, 2018 2:52 am

US embassy in Jerusalem today -

https://nypost.com/2018/05/12/getting-a ... ls-future/

Yes, there's no sense in sitting around waiting for Arabs in Palestine to make peace. Jerusalem is Israel's capital, and that's where embassies belong.

"Palestinians were offered their own state repeatedly in the last two decades, but neither Yasir Arafat nor Mahmoud Abbas could ever get to yes. Instead, violence was always their default position."

And look for more violence along Israel's borders today.

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