American democracy died on Capitol Hill....

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American democracy died on Capitol Hill....

Post by neverfail » Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:00 pm

.....by destroying public trust in the Congress and the media, the US establishment set the country on a dangerous course.

So says David Goldman.

https://asiatimes.com/2021/01/american- ... itol-hill/

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Re: American democracy died on Capitol Hill....

Post by neverfail » Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:02 pm

May God save America!

It would seem that no one else can any longer. :roll:

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Re: American democracy died on Capitol Hill....

Post by Jim the Moron » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:01 pm

Hopefully Spengler's article (linked above by neverfail) will be widely read. Full of uncommon insight. See especially his brief discussions on the Deep State (it's real) and US industry (it's in a sorry state).

"American Democracy Died on Capitol Hill"

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Re: American democracy died on Capitol Hill....

Post by Doc » Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:40 am

Jim the Moron wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:01 pm
Hopefully Spengler's article (linked above by neverfail) will be widely read. Full of uncommon insight. See especially his brief discussions on the Deep State (it's real) and US industry (it's in a sorry state).

"American Democracy Died on Capitol Hill"


Spengler does not talk about the motive. Wall street investment bankers and tech billionaires that do not consider themselves as American but rather Citizens of the world. Because it is so much more convenient to make money that way. (except of course in those times they need massive bailouts from the American middle class)


A more pointed opinion by someone with a front row seat. Something I knew to be true years before 2016 I suppose back when Bill Clinton ordered American Millitary contractors to help the CCP fix its ICBM's so they wouldn't blow up on the launch pad.


Why would the Democrats, whose local political organizations depend more on the Congress than on the presidency, fake votes for one and not the other?

Aha, say the conspiracy theorists: the mainstream Republican Party doesn’t like Trump any more than the Democrats, so it conspired with the Democrats to elect legislators while cheating the president. That is possible, but improbable in the extreme: It would require a conspiracy involving thousands of people sworn to secrecy. No such conspiracy is possible.
Why would thousands of sworn affidavits be thrown aside from people stating under penalty of perjury that they personally saw election fraud? The voting districts in question were in six states and particularly metro areas of those states. Meaning there would not have been thousands of people involved but dozens to hundreds. 10's of districts not 10,000.


A quarter of Americans believe that Covid-19 was a planned conspiracy of one kind or another, according to the Pew Survey; just under half of Americans with a high school education or less believe this. One out of three believes that a “deep state” is trying to undermine Trump.

I reject the first and believe the second: my colleagues at Asia Times and I have regular access to virologists in a number of countries with scientific credentials and no political agenda to pursue and can sift scientific evidence and opinion.

The actual evidence that has been in plain sight been suppressed by the MSM and particularly big social media corps)

The Wuhan bio research lab is 100YARDS from the Wuhan wet market and 900 kilometers from the nearest bat population hence the ccp-virus supposedly came from. It seems all of the above insatiable greedy groups mentioned above. How can they keep their imported goods gravy train running a while longer if the great majority of the people in this country and in the world believe the virus came from research lab in China. Not that it was intentionally released but because the CCP is so incompetent that it leaked out of the lab. Something that has happened time and time again under the CCP's heavy hand.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article ... heory.html

The Lab-Leak Hypothesis For decades, scientists have been hot-wiring viruses in hopes of preventing a pandemic, not causing one. But what if …?

And we were warned, repeatedly. The intentional creation of new microbes that combine virulence with heightened transmissibility “poses extraordinary risks to the public,” wrote infectious-disease experts Marc Lipsitch and Thomas Inglesby in 2014. “A rigorous and transparent risk-assessment process for this work has not yet been established.” That’s still true today. In 2012, in Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, Lynn Klotz warned that there was an 80 percent chance, given how many laboratories were then handling virulent viro-varietals, that a leak of a potential pandemic pathogen would occur sometime in the next 12 years.

A lab accident — a dropped flask, a needle prick, a mouse bite, an illegibly labeled bottle — is apolitical. Proposing that something unfortunate happened during a scientific experiment in Wuhan — where COVID-19 was first diagnosed and where there are three high-security virology labs, one of which held in its freezers the most comprehensive inventory of sampled bat viruses in the world — isn’t a conspiracy theory. It’s just a theory. It merits attention, I believe, alongside other reasoned attempts to explain the source of our current catastrophe.
Last week it was announced with great fanfare that the WHO had agreed with the CCP to send a team into Wuhan to discover the source of the CCP-Virus. Two days ago in the back pages were stories that agreement or not the WHO investigators were denied visas to enter CCP Land.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55555466

Covid: WHO team investigating virus origins denied entry to China


Plus these same greedy idiot elite classes are so desperate to not offend the CCP and the CCP is so desperate to prevent the delisting of PLA telecoms on the NYSE that they tried to reverse a Trump Administration Executive order By Getting Biden to over rule Trump's EO before Biden even was officially President Elect let alone sworn in as POTUS>


No I don't buy into what Goldman says. It seems 1/4th truth to cover 3/4ths of falsehood and omission.
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Re: American democracy died on Capitol Hill....

Post by neverfail » Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:06 pm

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/08/capitol ... p-mob.html

A U.S. Capitol police officer has died a day after clashing with a pro-Trump mob at the Capitol.

United States Capitol Police Officer Brian D. Sicknick was injured while engaging with protesters Wednesday and returned to his division office, where he collapsed, Capitol Police spokeswoman Eva Malecki said. He was taken to a local hospital where he died about 9:30 p.m. Thursday.
Recalling who it was that incited that violent demonstration in Washington DC via his Twitter account: in addition to other charges pending against Trump acesssary to murder ought to be included.

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Re: American democracy died on Capitol Hill....

Post by Doc » Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:53 am

Capital police open door to the capital building for Trump marchers and welcome them in

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Re: American democracy died on Capitol Hill....

Post by lzzrdgrrl » Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:52 am

An Indian perspective from AsiaTimes on this:

https://asiatimes.com/2021/01/the-day-a ... racy-died/
Without doubt, the US has been fundamentally weakened on the international stage.

It has become a hopeless task to try to restore American deterrence and prestige. Rival powers will see new vulnerability in the US. Even the US’ firmest allies in Europe are wondering why they should place trust in the trans-Atlantic alliance with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization at its center when American politics has become so febrile.
I have a certain notoriety among the lesser gods........

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Re: American democracy died on Capitol Hill....

Post by Milo » Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:38 pm

I have a feeling that without the free social media we will find that most of the Trumpeting was about convenience.

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Re: American democracy died on Capitol Hill....

Post by neverfail » Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:38 pm

lzzrdgrrl wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:52 am
An Indian perspective from AsiaTimes on this:

https://asiatimes.com/2021/01/the-day-a ... racy-died/
Without doubt, the US has been fundamentally weakened on the international stage.

It has become a hopeless task to try to restore American deterrence and prestige. Rival powers will see new vulnerability in the US. Even the US’ firmest allies in Europe are wondering why they should place trust in the trans-Atlantic alliance with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization at its center when American politics has become so febrile.
Hi Izzy, - and thanks for posting the link. You saved me from having to do it. :)

From Asia Times' contributor and former diplomat M K Bhadrakumar's recent essay I take special note of his reference to Germany's tragic history. I recall within the last few weeks posting a reference to the Weimar Republic (1919 to 1933) failing to stop the rise of National Socialism until this cancer finally consumed its host:
Biden, a quintessential consensus maker who has described himself as a “transitional president,” is best qualified to address the root cause of the polarization in American politics before it turns into terminal malignancy.

The Europeans understand from their own history that the deeply flawed American variant of democracy can no longer represent and engage diffuse citizens, bringing them together for a common purpose, and politics is turning increasingly chaotic and despotic, and citizens and politicians feel threatened by executive overreach.

Foreign Minister Maas’ remark touches a raw nerve, but the future of American democracy may well depend on paying heed to Germany’s tragic history.
Yet in the case of the USA all may not be lost.

I truly hope that Bhadrakumar is absolutely right in that assessment of Biden and his potential for being the right man to lead America now and in the years to come. So much now rests on that mans shoulders.

(p.s. the USA will need to undertake decades of work to come in order to restore any credability as leader of the Western democracies.)

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Re: American democracy died on Capitol Hill....

Post by Doc » Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:35 pm

Milo wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:38 pm
I have a feeling that without the free social media we will find that most of the Trumpeting was about convenience.
https://itnshow.com/2021/01/03/poland-t ... ee-speech/
Poland to Fine Social Media Companies $2.2 Million Every Time They Censor Free Speech
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