Exit the United Nations?

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Should we stay in the United Nations?

Yes, exit the U.N., I'm an American
7
58%
Yes, exit the U.N., I'm not an American
0
No votes
Don't care one way or another.
1
8%
No, stay in the U.N., I'm an American
0
No votes
No, stay in the U.N., I'm not an American
4
33%
 
Total votes: 12

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Re: Exit the United Nations?

Post by SteveFoerster » Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:30 pm

cassowary wrote:
Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:35 pm
Cost is relative. The US pays $8 billion a year to have the likes of Saudi Arabia watching over women's rights. Is that considered cheap? Or a waste of money?
One cent would be too much.
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Re: Exit the United Nations?

Post by Jim the Moron » Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:18 am

Great news. Israel and the United States are departing UNESCO. But what took them so long?

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Re: Exit the United Nations?

Post by Sertorio » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:43 am

Jim the Moron wrote:
Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:18 am
Great news. Israel and the United States are departing UNESCO. But what took them so long?
Withdrawing from any international forum is never a good thing. Countries need to talk to each other, no matter how little they like each other. Americans are already far too disrespectful of other nations so they should be encouraged to meet and talk to them to avoid decisiosns which may lead to war. American supposed exceptionalism - like German feeling of superiority in the 30's of last century - will lead to disaster, and therefore everything must be done to show those Americans they are not exceptional or superior in any way. Staying in bodies like UNESCO would contributr to that.

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Re: Exit the United Nations?

Post by neverfail » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:04 am

Jim the Moron wrote:
Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:18 am
Great news. Israel and the United States are departing UNESCO. But what took them so long?
:?: The little boy packs up his marbles in a temper tantrum and tramps off home; because he is not winning the game? :(

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Re: Exit the United Nations?

Post by Jim the Moron » Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:36 am

Sertorio and neverfail fail to mention Israel's departure. And they fail to mention that it is because of the gross anti-Israel bias by UNESCO that the US chose to withdraw. Anti-Semitism is not a game.

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Re: Exit the United Nations?

Post by Jim the Moron » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:40 am

Many of us understand why Americans (and presumably, folks of other nationalities) like to do what they perceive as best for their citizens. But apparently there are some non-Americans (and even some Americans) out there resentful of American unwillingness to fund, via the United Nations, terrorist outfits. Here are a couple of commentaries on the direction UNESCO has taken.

"How did UNESCO get so politicized?"
https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/542733/

"UNESCO Supports Terrorism"
http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opin ... 017/08/28/

Hopefully, this is a first step for the US to eventually abandon the UN altogether. Israel will, of course, do what they believe is best for Israelis (not a difficult concept, really).

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Re: Exit the United Nations?

Post by dagbay » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:21 am

Jim the Moron wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:40 am
Many of us understand why Americans (and presumably, folks of other nationalities) like to do what they perceive as best for their citizens. But apparently there are some non-Americans (and even some Americans) out there resentful of American unwillingness to fund, via the United Nations, terrorist outfits. Here are a couple of commentaries on the direction UNESCO has taken.

"How did UNESCO get so politicized?"
https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/542733/

"UNESCO Supports Terrorism"
http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opin ... 017/08/28/

Hopefully, this is a first step for the US to eventually abandon the UN altogether. Israel will, of course, do what they believe is best for Israelis (not a difficult concept, really).
So Jim, by that logic it follows that the remaining UNESCO members are doing what is best for their countries. Now that makes sense considering SA leading the body on women's rights - maybe they direct some changes in the world to fit the enlightened SA model. Think of how much good this can accomplish in the Muslim block and in the west it would lead to so much less congestion on the roads and a plethora of chauffeur jobs for men.😀
I'd rather be diving or flying alas for now I am on terra firma.

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Re: Exit the United Nations?

Post by Jim the Moron » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:12 am

dagbay wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:21 am
Jim the Moron wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:40 am
Many of us understand why Americans (and presumably, folks of other nationalities) like to do what they perceive as best for their citizens. But apparently there are some non-Americans (and even some Americans) out there resentful of American unwillingness to fund, via the United Nations, terrorist outfits. Here are a couple of commentaries on the direction UNESCO has taken.

"How did UNESCO get so politicized?"
https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/542733/

"UNESCO Supports Terrorism"
http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opin ... 017/08/28/

Hopefully, this is a first step for the US to eventually abandon the UN altogether. Israel will, of course, do what they believe is best for Israelis (not a difficult concept, really).
So Jim, by that logic it follows that the remaining UNESCO members are doing what is best for their countries. Now that makes sense considering SA leading the body on women's rights - maybe they direct some changes in the world to fit the enlightened SA model. Think of how much good this can accomplish in the Muslim block and in the west it would lead to so much less congestion on the roads and a plethora of chauffeur jobs for men.😀
Nice sarcasm, dagbay. ". . . the enlightened SA model."

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Re: Exit the United Nations?

Post by Milo » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:47 am

Roosevelt and Churchill largely created the present order and there hasn't been a world war since. I don't see anyone who is their equal in leadership these days.

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Re: Exit the United Nations?

Post by SteveFoerster » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:02 am

Sertorio wrote:
Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:43 am
Withdrawing from any international forum is never a good thing. Countries need to talk to each other, no matter how little they like each other. Americans are already far too disrespectful of other nations so they should be encouraged to meet and talk to them to avoid decisiosns which may lead to war. American supposed exceptionalism - like German feeling of superiority in the 30's of last century - will lead to disaster, and therefore everything must be done to show those Americans they are not exceptional or superior in any way.
While I agree that the U.S. is too meddlesome in foreign affairs, American exceptionalism defeated the Nazis, it doesn't emulate them. As for not being exceptional or superior in any way, you've apparently mistaken them for Portugal. (See how obnoxious that is?)
Staying in bodies like UNESCO would contributr to that.
Why? What does UNESCO specifically do that's so amazing?
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