BERNIE SANDERS HATES FREEDOM AND LOVES TYRANNY

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BERNIE SANDERS HATES FREEDOM AND LOVES TYRANNY

Post by cassowary » Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:48 am

BERNIE SANDERS HATES FREEDOM AND LOVES TYRANNY
It is a fair bet that Sen. Bernie Sanders (and most of his followers), unlike tens of millions of others, never read George Orwell’s “Animal Farm” or Friedrich von Hayek’s “The Road to Serfdom.”

Why do so many embrace a system — socialism — that has always failed, whether it was a form of state socialism or the various utopian communities started in the United States and Europe over the last couple of hundred years?

We praise the benign socialism that is practiced within the family, churches, some social or civic groups where the members look out for each other in case of need. It works as long as it is voluntary and members are free to leave.

In contrast, government socialism is coercive and denies the fundamental right to opt out, no matter how repressive or incompetent it becomes.

The socialist countries killed a couple hundred million of their own citizens during the 20th century — Soviet Union (62 million), Communist China (78 million), and the National Socialists, aka Nazis, in Germany (21 million).

Even today, Cuba, North Korea and the new dictatorship of Venezuela have their defenders, despite the clear and obvious repression and human misery.

The takeover playbook remains the same. State socialism is incompatible with liberty — and if a majority of the people are aware of the facts, socialism loses.

Thus, the first thing the socialists do is deny free speech to others — with the false claims that their opponents are engaged in hate or repressive speech so they must be silenced. This is exactly the current denial of free speech on college campuses and by “Antifa” – tyranny’s opening round.

The next step is to take control of education, by regulating what is to be taught — leaving out those parts of history that would result in enlightened citizenry. At the college level, the goal is to obtain a uniformity of thought, so professors that encourage diversity of thought or defend free markets are blackballed by the educational establishment.

The third step is to stamp out any opposition press, which can be done by a combination of staged public protests, bogus attacks on the owners of media who oppose authoritarian socialism, including phony tax charges, assorted frivolous lawsuits, and false charges of criminality.

At first, left-leaning members of the press applaud the attacks and elimination of their competition, but once in power the socialists most often purge their original supporters.

Freedom of assembly and right to own guns are denied on the basis that they are a threat to public order. California already has some of the most restrictive gun laws, and conservative and libertarian groups are being denied the right to assemble on some of the state college campuses.

The socialist/authoritarians are hostile to religion. Bernie Sanders has been openly hostile to religion, and this past month Democrat Sens. Dianne Feinstein of California and Dick Durbin of Illinois attacked a Catholic woman who had been nominated to a U.S. federal court because of her religion.

Businesses are either nationalized or regulated to such an extent that they become agents of the state. Obamacare has been an attempt to destroy the private medical insurance market and much of the private medical industry, including the right to choose your own doctor.

The current efforts by Mr. Sanders and many Democrats to have “single payer” (total government) medical care is an overt attempt to socialize one-sixth of the American economy.

Energy companies are increasingly regulated with the excuse they are contributing to global warming — but the real agenda is to totally control them. Banks and other large financial firms can barely move without the permission of a government regulator.

Defenders of socialism always claim that they are “democratic socialists” and will preserve basic freedoms. That never turns out to be true. A basic freedom is the right to own property, but socialists invariably seize it, or tax and/or regulate it to such an extent that the individual has, in effect, lost her or his property.

The socialists destroy freedom of the press by nationalizing the media or harassing the opposition newspapers by denying them paper. There have been many calls to require the Federal Communications Commission to regulate political content over the airways or on the internet.

Socialism destroys individual initiative, and when the economy fails to produce, the socialists normally respond with a new round of regulations and other oppressive measures, causing the economy to fail further. The result is the socialists progressively become increasingly authoritarian.

Socialism can be reversed, most notably in countries with a long tradition of civil liberties and free markets, such as the United Kingdom and Sweden.
This explains why left leaning people side with Russia and N Korea. They hate freedom and love tyranny. Behind every Socialist is a totalitarian screaming to come out.

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Post by SteveFoerster » Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:04 pm

Do you actually pay nine bucks a month for that?
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Post by cassowary » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:27 pm

No. I get it for free. The owner is a friend of mine. In fact, I have written for him before - free of course.

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Re: BERNIE SANDERS HATES FREEDOM AND LOVES TYRANNY

Post by lzzrdgrrl » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:47 pm



It's the tyranny aspect that's problematic. Socialism, or the idea that community should self-consciously work towards the common good, requires an agreed upon and deliberately negotiated consensus. A tyrant doesn't hear nor recognise dissension, disagreement nor a different opinion. Then you have something more like Marxism as the above video describes......

Generally, socialist societies happen, but you cannot deliberately force one into being on the peoples or the geographical areas you arbitrarily choose........
Let's try this modelling exercise. Let's envision a world in a parallel universe somewhere let's say, where I'm right.........

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Re: BERNIE SANDERS HATES FREEDOM AND LOVES TYRANNY

Post by cassowary » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:17 am

lzzrdgrrl wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:47 pm


It's the tyranny aspect that's problematic. Socialism, or the idea that community should self-consciously work towards the common good, requires an agreed upon and deliberately negotiated consensus. A tyrant doesn't hear nor recognise dissension, disagreement nor a different opinion. Then you have something more like Marxism as the above video describes......

Generally, socialist societies happen, but you cannot deliberately force one into being on the peoples or the geographical areas you arbitrarily choose........
That's all theory. Implement Socialism results in tyranny because it violates human nature. You don't need compulsion to make capitalism work. Each man simply acts in his own interests. Getting each man to sacrifice his and his families needs for some vague concept of society needs compulsion to make it do it.

That's why Socialism has never worked. The video presentation of Mao, Stalin etc as right-wing totalitarians is laughable. They were left-wing totalitarians trying to implement Socialism.

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Somehow, Socialists love dictators

Post by cassowary » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:32 am

Sanders defend past praise of Fidel Castro

This is the reality of Socialism. Socialists have a tendency to support dictators. That's because you need to compel people to do what they normally not want to do in order for Socialism to work and even then, it does not work as well as a system that simply requires everybody to do what is to your individual interests.

The video gave an abstract and theoretical view of Socialism. Castro, a brutal dictator, and his supporters in the west like Bernie Sanders are the practical results. That is why Socialism has never worked.

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Post by lzzrdgrrl » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:32 pm

Capitalism is the idea that a portion of your labour or invention should be set aside to be returned into your means of production. To improve and expand same for continued and future production. Capitalism does require a sacrifice of your self interest, holding some of your profits aside for considerations in the short or long term future. There's a time element in this - delayed gratification, the nature of the idea of investment.......

Collectivism, or socialism, doesn't have this constraint for future interest built in. It is possible for socialists to set aside immediate self gratification, but not at all apparent that they do. We do see individuals, political movements and societies motivated by envy and resentment and they inflict their will on others out of reprisal and punishment. I have problems with political and economical arguments where they become psychologically obtuse. There isn't a system or method for glory and salvation. It comes down to the character of the people - lose that and all is lost........
Let's try this modelling exercise. Let's envision a world in a parallel universe somewhere let's say, where I'm right.........

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Re: BERNIE SANDERS HATES FREEDOM AND LOVES TYRANNY

Post by SteveFoerster » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:43 pm

lzzrdgrrl wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:32 pm
Capitalism is the idea that a portion of your labour or invention should be set aside to be returned into your means of production. To improve and expand same for continued and future production. Capitalism does require a sacrifice of your self interest, holding some of your profits aside for considerations in the short or long term future. There's a time element in this - delayed gratification, the nature of the idea of investment.......
In most cases that's probably good business, but that's not part of the definition of capitalism.
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Post by SteveFoerster » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:45 pm

cassowary wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:17 am
That's why Socialism has never worked. The video presentation of Mao, Stalin etc as right-wing totalitarians is laughable. They were left-wing totalitarians trying to implement Socialism.
Hence the need for this reminder:

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Re: BERNIE SANDERS HATES FREEDOM AND LOVES TYRANNY

Post by cassowary » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:24 pm

SteveFoerster wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:45 pm
cassowary wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:17 am
That's why Socialism has never worked. The video presentation of Mao, Stalin etc as right-wing totalitarians is laughable. They were left-wing totalitarians trying to implement Socialism.
Hence the need for this reminder:

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Bernie certainly showed his totalitarian tendencies when he made his remarks about Castro. Should he ever gain power and manages to do away with the US constitution his face will appear next to Mao, Stalin and Fatty Kim.

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