The Asian Tax

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Re: The Asian Tax

Post by Jim the Moron » Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:41 am

Milo wrote:
Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:50 pm
In Canada there's no ivy league and IMO the system is better for it.

If a degree from one university is so much superior to another in the marketplace, merely because of the name of the university, then that is the thing to change.
Exactly. Several professors at US colleges this year were awarded the Nobel prize. None of them were at ivy schools. Can we assume that their students received quality instruction?

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Re: The Asian Tax

Post by SteveFoerster » Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:38 pm

Also, people forget that the Ivy League is a sports league, not an actual academic category.
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Re: The Asian Tax

Post by Milo » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:59 am

SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:38 pm
Also, people forget that the Ivy League is a sports league, not an actual academic category.
Actually I did not know that!

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Re: The Asian Tax

Post by Jim the Moron » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:09 am

"The Price of Admission"
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/educ ... icans.html

The author refers to the "Asian Tax" as the "Asian Penalty." As an American of Chinese heritage, he went to considerable lengths on his college applications to hide evidences of his ethnicity. Why? Because he wanted to be accepted at an ivy school (he ended up at Yale). A compelling article.

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Re: The Asian Tax

Post by neverfail » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:32 pm

Jim the Moron wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:06 am
neverfail wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:06 am
Jim, why did you name this discussion The Asian TAX? This topic does not seem to be about taxation at all but of the efforts by the admittedly somewhat snooty administrations of some of your high class colleges to maintain traditional high standards and a seemly tone on campus by keeping out the riff-raff. :mrgreen:
Please read the linked NYT article; you will discover why "The Asian Tax" was chosen as the title. And, it wasn't about maintaining "traditional high standards" - rather, the opposite.
My above post (see little green man :mrgreen: included) was intended to be ironic Jim. Sorry if you are too dumb to have picked that up. :mrgreen:

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Re: The Asian Tax

Post by Jim the Moron » Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:30 pm

neverfail wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:32 pm
Jim the Moron wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:06 am
neverfail wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:06 am
Jim, why did you name this discussion The Asian TAX? This topic does not seem to be about taxation at all but of the efforts by the admittedly somewhat snooty administrations of some of your high class colleges to maintain traditional high standards and a seemly tone on campus by keeping out the riff-raff. :mrgreen:
Please read the linked NYT article; you will discover why "The Asian Tax" was chosen as the title. And, it wasn't about maintaining "traditional high standards" - rather, the opposite.
My above post (see little green man :mrgreen: included) was intended to be ironic Jim. Sorry if you are too dumb to have picked that up. :mrgreen:
Hope you finally get around to reading the NY Times article (and maybe the others). But if not, please be assured that the article was not about maintaining "traditional high standards," as you stated. It was about denying admission to some of the best qualified applicants, thereby lowering the quality of the incoming freshman classes. If you find irony in that, well ...

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Re: The Asian Tax

Post by Doc » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:23 pm

It strikes me that Ivy League colleges aren't nearly as good as they used to be. In fact I heard a blurb on the radio yesterday that said American Colleges in general are not what they used to be Factoids:

70% of students on average in individual courses get an "A"
Class attendance on any given day is 64%.

The theory as to why those numbers are what they are is that public institutions are basically non profit even though parents are paying big $$ to send their kids to them. They figure the parents are paying for a piece of paper After 4 years of charging them so much who are they to deny their kids that piece of paper, even though quality of education does matter it is easier to give out participation certificates(and more profitable) than require effort to get the grades. The Faculty get big $$ The school trust get big $$ The Administrators get big $$ and the banks get big $$ from financing the high tuition.

ANd even with that the are many other actors to point the finger of blame at including the students, parents. Certainly a lot of the blame goes to the primary and secondary schools system that seem to care more about the teachers unions than educating the children. It all rolls down hill.

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Re: The Asian Tax

Post by Jim the Moron » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:28 pm

"Asian-American groups are saying that affirmative action hurts their chances to get into Ivy League schools"
http://www.businessinsider.com/asian-am ... ard-2018-2

A lawyer for the NAACP is quoted as saying - "Affirmative action is not what's causing Asian-Americans not to get into college." (By which she means elite colleges.)

If you believe that lawyer, I've got this bridge over the Charles River I can let you have at a bargain price.

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