Yes, now Canadian
Living since 1980 in Vancouver, Canada
Great choice, Cp.
neverfail wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:06 pm.
Great choice, Cp.
Vancouver has for years been in competition with our Melbourne for the status of being 'the world's most liveable city. The one that globally gives its inhabitants the best overall quality of life. Sometimes Vancouver is judged number one and Melbourne a close number two: in other years they swap places.
I and family just returned a week ago from a break of several days in Melbourne and we are planning to visit Vancouver later this year where a friend who lives on Vancouver Island has invited us to stay as her guests. From there we hope to set out and see a lot of British Columbia with possibly a side trip down into the US Pacific northwest thrown in. You know how it is with Canada? It's population stretches in a ribbon along their frontier with the US so that often the region of the US to the south is more of a magnet than the Canadian province/s closest to them. I am sure (for instance) that more Vancouver residents have visited Seattle at some time in their lives than have visited Calgary.
So when visiting Canada you might as well follow the example of the locals and see a bit of the US as well. Two for the price of one.
I might even get to meet you ?
Oh, and P.S:
I was recently surprised to discover that they actually have vineyards and wineries in BC. I had previously assumed that the wine grape could not grow anywhere in Canada because of its high latitude geographic location - but apparently not so!
Thanks Cp. Glad you enjoyed your all too brief time here. Australia has only half a dozen cities large enough to be described as metropolitan centres located widely separated around our coastal rim. Yet these 5 or 6 are home to about 80% of our population - with Sydney and Melbourne between them accounting for about 45%. Forget about the misleading Crocodile Dundee image promoted in cinema by actor Paul Hogan. We are one of the World's most urbanised peoples.Cyclamen persicum wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:21 pm
2001 , I took a cruise from Bangkok to Sydney .. 21 days .. Perth , Melbourne (bought those crocodile'Dandy hats), Tasmania , Sydney .. have different cousins in Sydney
Loved Perth and Sydney .. would have immigrated there if it was Canada, but, a bit too far.
I have heard that some Aussies go over there for wintertime snow sports but until now I had no idea it was on such a scale. Thanks for information Cp.Cyclamen persicum wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:21 pmVancouver, Pacific coast along, is backed by Canadian Sierra mountains, sailing and ski paradise .. winter time, when summer in Australia, all ski bums (and buns) are Australians (beautiful and crazy girls - excellent skiers) , they run Whistler, my sons were skiing mid January and said it felt you in Australia (Australians can work for 2 yrs without permit, common wealth rule).
Have Australian and NZ wines priced themselves out of the market over there or is the EU subsidising their wine exports?Cyclamen persicum wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:21 pmAnd .. behind the Canadian Sierra, flat hot dry land , OKANAGEN, wine country .. you can make now good wine pretty much everywhere, it is chemistry .. We drank a lot Australian and New Zealand Wine when they were cheaper, but now prefer Italian and French, California too became a bit pricy (good ones) .. friend was saying all New Zealand vineyards bought by French, all of them.
British Colombia and adjacent Alaska must be the World's salmon capital. Do Coho make good eating?
Apollonius wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2017 8:03 amI've been living in Canada longer than CP.
The average detached home cost about $50,000 in the early 1970s.
Today the average detached home costs about $2 million.
Rents have increased commensurately.
Even twenty years ago Vancouver's homeless population was close to zero.
Today there are at least 2500.
Thirty years ago there were quite a few good bookstores in Vancouver.
Now there are none.
Retail in other areas has also collapsed.
Vancouver has stores that sell clothing and shoes made in Bangladesh, and stores that sell cell phones made in China.
There are a lot of restaurants (which only those in the top ten percent of earners or too young to know how to spend money wisely can afford to eat at).
You can buy an avocado now, but after paying the rent or the mortgage, can you afford one?
Most of the parks are getting a little shabby. The city is more crowded and dirtier. It's noisy. There are longer wait times at medical facilities, with a disproportionate drag on their services from recent immigrants and the mentally ill.
They used to hold a salmon derby in the waters just north of the city. For years it's been too polluted to fish there. The great majority of salmon caught in Vancouver's harbour have cancerous lesions.
Transit is better than twenty years ago, but you'll need it because traffic is much worse and you won't want to drive, especially as you'll be living a lot further from work because it's too expensive to live anywhere nearby.
Vancouver, always the unfriendliest city in North America, is colder and ruder than ever now as conditions for the average resident continue to deteriorate.
neverfail wrote: ↑Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:28 pm.
Appolonius @ Cp.
Thanks so much for your respective sets of insights.
Appolonius: It seems to me that Vancouver may be suffering from the growing pains of a thriving metropolis rather than the ailments of a declining (rust belt type) one. For exactly the same set of conditions you describe above are evident here in Sydney as well. Some symptoms seem more advanced in Vancouver than in Sydney; some more muted. But they are all so familiar to me.
I would not be surprised if Vancouver were currently (and for years) has enjoyed an annual growth rate higher that other Canadian population centres and well above the Canadian average. Why? Because like Sydney (and San Francisco, Tokyo, Shanghai and Hong Kong) Vancouver is a Pacific rim city whose fortunes strike me as being as much tied to Asia-Pacific as to the North American continent to its rear.
If Vancouver residents are unaware of that then in my opinion they should become aware of their city's destiny ASAP. Vancouver in that regard seems out of step with the rest of Canada: whose very geography (ignoring the ever magnetic pull of the USA to the south) seemingly makes it much more oriented to the North Atlantic and western Europe than the Pacific rim and its many opportunities.
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