Rich Venezuelan Socialists flee to US for the good life

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Rich Venezuelan Socialists flee to US for the good life

Post by cassowary » Fri May 04, 2018 3:45 am

Rich Venezuelan Socialists live the High Life in Florida
Venezuela's spectacular collapse evokes memories of other such socialist nightmares. Blessed with fantastic oil wealth, Venezuela was once the region's richest nation.
That makes sense. Only Socialism can make an oil-rich country poor. This is evidence that Socialism does not work.
But after years of leftist policies culminating in Cuban-style socialism, the oil-rich yet impoverished South American nation is now in the throes of a humanitarian crisis – near famine conditions and a hemorrhage of poor refugees pouring into neighboring countries. Venezuela's collapse is like other socialist nightmares in another respect: corruption.
I have zero sympathy for them. It serves them right to have voted for Hugo Chavez years ago. That's how it all started. Socialism is the party of wealth redistribution. People who vote for leftist parties simply want to grab other people's hard earned money. They fall for the glib tongues of Socialists who promise them Other People's Money. But while their voters become poor, the elite Socialists become rich through corruption.
Many top officials and friends of the regime have gotten filthy rich through corruption. This is nothing new, to be sure. Like other Third World petrostates, Venezuela has long been a kleptocracy, ranked over the years by corruption watchdog Transparency International as one of the world's most corrupt nations. Venezuela's corruption gravy train, however, soared to epic levels under what the late President Hugo Chávez and successor Nicolás Maduro called “twenty-first-century socialism.” Corrupt officials and insiders got rich in a variety of ways: kick-back schemes and bribes involving state industries; sleazy currency-exchange deals and money laundering; and other nefarious deals – from outright theft of state assets to drug trafficking. Corruption flourished due to a dark side of human nature: absolute power corrupts absolutely. Venezuela's already fragile democracy was destroyed.
While there was also corruption in Venezuela before it got infected with the disease of Socialism, Socialism made it worse. The reason is simple. Socialism concentrates power in a few hands. This makes them powerful and power always corrupts. In a capitalist economy, power is more diffused because the economic control is in the hands of millions of people instead of being concentrated in the hands of a few government officials.
Corrupt socialists in U.S.

It's no fun living in a failed state, not even for Venezuela's filthy rich socialists. So many have relocated with their looted wealth to first-world getaways. The U.S. is a favorite destination, with Florida in particular being a popular haven for ex-officials and insiders. Amusingly, they made a beeline to the U.S. despite Chávez and Maduro's blustering anti-Americanism and praise for communist Cuba. They weren't stupid. In the end, they believed that America – with its rule of law, property rights, and high quality of life – was the place to be.
Of course! The country they claim to hate is the country they flee to. The elite Socialists know the real truth unlike the stupid people who voted for them. Now that they are in the US with their billions, I am sure they support the Republican tax cuts. No doubt their stock portfolios went up thanks to the Trump tax cuts.
One of these wealthy socialists is Alejandro Andrade, a former bodyguard for Hugo Chávez who rose to become Venezuela's national treasurer. The 53-year-old Andrade now lives on a fabulous estate in Wellington, Florida, an exclusive community just west of West Palm Beach, which Money Magazine once ranked as one of America's 100 best places to live.
While he was National Treasurer, I am sure he made anti-American speeches for the dumb voters but he knew where to put his money - in a capitalist country like the US. They are smart people, unlike their dumb voters. You see, at the bottom of their hearts, they know that Capitalism works and Socialism does not.

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Re: Rich Venezuelan Socialists flee to US for the good life

Post by cassowary » Fri May 04, 2018 4:41 am

cassowary wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 3:45 am
Rich Venezuelan Socialists live the High Life in Florida
Venezuela's spectacular collapse evokes memories of other such socialist nightmares. Blessed with fantastic oil wealth, Venezuela was once the region's richest nation.
That makes sense. Only Socialism can make an oil-rich country poor. This is evidence that Socialism does not work.
But after years of leftist policies culminating in Cuban-style socialism, the oil-rich yet impoverished South American nation is now in the throes of a humanitarian crisis – near famine conditions and a hemorrhage of poor refugees pouring into neighboring countries. Venezuela's collapse is like other socialist nightmares in another respect: corruption.
I have zero sympathy for them. It serves them right to have voted for Hugo Chavez years ago. That's how it all started. Socialism is the party of wealth redistribution. People who vote for leftist parties simply want to grab other people's hard earned money. They fall for the glib tongues of Socialists who promise them Other People's Money. But while their voters become poor, the elite Socialists become rich through corruption.
Many top officials and friends of the regime have gotten filthy rich through corruption. This is nothing new, to be sure. Like other Third World petrostates, Venezuela has long been a kleptocracy, ranked over the years by corruption watchdog Transparency International as one of the world's most corrupt nations. Venezuela's corruption gravy train, however, soared to epic levels under what the late President Hugo Chávez and successor Nicolás Maduro called “twenty-first-century socialism.” Corrupt officials and insiders got rich in a variety of ways: kick-back schemes and bribes involving state industries; sleazy currency-exchange deals and money laundering; and other nefarious deals – from outright theft of state assets to drug trafficking. Corruption flourished due to a dark side of human nature: absolute power corrupts absolutely. Venezuela's already fragile democracy was destroyed.
While there was also corruption in Venezuela before it got infected with the disease of Socialism, Socialism made it worse. The reason is simple. Socialism concentrates power in a few hands. This makes them powerful and power always corrupts. In a capitalist economy, power is more diffused because the economic control is in the hands of millions of people instead of being concentrated in the hands of a few government officials.
Corrupt socialists in U.S.

It's no fun living in a failed state, not even for Venezuela's filthy rich socialists. So many have relocated with their looted wealth to first-world getaways. The U.S. is a favorite destination, with Florida in particular being a popular haven for ex-officials and insiders. Amusingly, they made a beeline to the U.S. despite Chávez and Maduro's blustering anti-Americanism and praise for communist Cuba. They weren't stupid. In the end, they believed that America – with its rule of law, property rights, and high quality of life – was the place to be.
Of course! The country they claim to hate is the country they flee to. The elite Socialists know the real truth unlike the stupid people who voted for them. Now that they are in the US with their billions, I am sure they support the Republican tax cuts. No doubt their stock portfolios went up thanks to the Trump tax cuts.
One of these wealthy socialists is Alejandro Andrade, a former bodyguard for Hugo Chávez who rose to become Venezuela's national treasurer. The 53-year-old Andrade now lives on a fabulous estate in Wellington, Florida, an exclusive community just west of West Palm Beach, which Money Magazine once ranked as one of America's 100 best places to live.
While he was National Treasurer, I am sure he made anti-American speeches for the dumb voters but he knew where to put his money - in a capitalist country like the US. They are smart people, unlike their dumb voters. You see, at the bottom of their hearts, they know that Capitalism works and Socialism does not.
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The Morals of this tale are

1)Socialism does not work. Venezuela is the latest of a very long line of failures. It creates poverty and dictatorships.
2)If you want a better life, you have to earn it yourself. It is not right to take other people's money.
3)There will always be inequality - whether in a capitalist or a socialist society. Inequality is natural.

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Re: Rich Venezuelan Socialists flee to US for the good life

Post by SteveFoerster » Fri May 04, 2018 12:27 pm

cassowary wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 3:45 am
I have zero sympathy for them. It serves them right to have voted for Hugo Chavez years ago. That's how it all started.
That's rather collectivist of you, to be honest. Many did vote Chavez in, many others did not vote for him. One of the problems with democracy is that everyone gets what only the majority of voters deserve.
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Re:the best quality of life that money can buy?

Post by neverfail » Fri May 04, 2018 3:19 pm

(quote) Corrupt socialists in U.S.

It's no fun living in a failed state, not even for Venezuela's filthy rich socialists. So many have relocated with their looted wealth to first-world getaways. The U.S. is a favorite destination, with Florida in particular being a popular haven for ex-officials and insiders. Amusingly, they made a beeline to the U.S. despite Chávez and Maduro's blustering anti-Americanism and praise for communist Cuba. They weren't stupid. In the end, they believed that America – with its rule of law, property rights, and high quality of life – was the place to be.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Amusing bit of bombast!

Yeah, and I will bet that the hypocritical USA is only too keen to give these charlatans and their dirty money a home too!

:cry:

The USA offers a high quality of life? If you live in the likes of Scandinavia or Australia you get to enjoy a high quality of life on an average income; but the USA offers a high quality of life only to those with the income to buy one - the wealthy. You can see that the author of that misleading remark is not one of the many Americans who, in varying gradations of poverty, have to endure a low quality of life. Still, that should not concern these monied refugees from Venezuela.

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Re: Rich Venezuelan Socialists flee to US for the good life

Post by cassowary » Fri May 04, 2018 5:23 pm

SteveFoerster wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 12:27 pm
cassowary wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 3:45 am
I have zero sympathy for them. It serves them right to have voted for Hugo Chavez years ago. That's how it all started.
That's rather collectivist of you, to be honest. Many did vote Chavez in, many others did not vote for him. One of the problems with democracy is that everyone gets what only the majority of voters deserve.
Good point. It slipped my mind.

In that case, I have no sympathy for those who voted Chavez in but feel sorry for those who did not - whoever they are.

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Re: Rich Venezuelan Socialists flee to US for the good life

Post by neverfail » Sat May 05, 2018 3:58 am

cassowary wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 5:23 pm
In that case, I have no sympathy for those who voted Chavez .....
I do! Not because they voted for Chavez but because I think I understand why they did.

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Re: Re:the best quality of life that money can buy?

Post by SteveFoerster » Sat May 05, 2018 2:45 pm

neverfail wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 3:19 pm
(quote) Corrupt socialists in U.S.

It's no fun living in a failed state, not even for Venezuela's filthy rich socialists. So many have relocated with their looted wealth to first-world getaways. The U.S. is a favorite destination, with Florida in particular being a popular haven for ex-officials and insiders. Amusingly, they made a beeline to the U.S. despite Chávez and Maduro's blustering anti-Americanism and praise for communist Cuba. They weren't stupid. In the end, they believed that America – with its rule of law, property rights, and high quality of life – was the place to be.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Amusing bit of bombast!

Yeah, and I will bet that the hypocritical USA is only too keen to give these charlatans and their dirty money a home too!
U.S. policymakers are only being hypocritical when they deny people entry, not when they don't get in the way of it.
neverfail wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 3:19 pm
The USA offers a high quality of life? If you live in the likes of Scandinavia or Australia you get to enjoy a high quality of life on an average income; but the USA offers a high quality of life only to those with the income to buy one - the wealthy. You can see that the author of that misleading remark is not one of the many Americans who, in varying gradations of poverty, have to endure a low quality of life. Still, that should not concern these monied refugees from Venezuela.
Spoken like someone who's never lived here. An average income in the U.S. affords a perfectly decent lifestyle.
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Re: Rich Venezuelan Socialists flee to US for the good life

Post by cassowary » Sun May 06, 2018 12:02 am

neverfail wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 3:58 am
cassowary wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 5:23 pm
In that case, I have no sympathy for those who voted Chavez .....
I do! Not because they voted for Chavez but because I think I understand why they did.
Sounds like splitting hairs to me.

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Re: Re:the best quality of life that money can buy?

Post by cassowary » Sun May 06, 2018 12:14 am

neverfail wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 3:19 pm

Amusing bit of bombast!

Yeah, and I will bet that the hypocritical USA is only too keen to give these charlatans and their dirty money a home too!

:cry:
We will be happy to take them in if the US rejects them. Robert Mugabe, another rich socialist, has been spotted many times here. I wonder if he spends more time here than in Zimbabwe, the country he ruined with his Socialist policies. Who says that Singapore does not welcome refugees from failed states? As long as they got money, of course.

By now, you should have realized that the Socialism always results in poverty and dictatorships. Even though Socialist politicians promise equality of wealth, there will still be inequality. The trouble is that those who get rich in Socialism are the corrupt Socialist politicians. In capitalism, those who get rich are those who provide goods and services to the people. So they are doing good for society while the rich in Socialist countries gain their wealth by doing bad.

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Re: Re:the best quality of life that money can buy?

Post by cassowary » Sun May 06, 2018 12:28 am

neverfail wrote:
Fri May 04, 2018 3:19 pm

The USA offers a high quality of life? If you live in the likes of Scandinavia or Australia you get to enjoy a high quality of life on an average income; but the USA offers a high quality of life only to those with the income to buy one - the wealthy. You can see that the author of that misleading remark is not one of the many Americans who, in varying gradations of poverty, have to endure a low quality of life. Still, that should not concern these monied refugees from Venezuela.
Actually, the US has a higher standard of living as compared to Scandinavia and Australia. Here is the per capita income table by the CIA Factbook.

Country..............................................................Per capita income
USA...............................................................................$59,500
Australia.........................................................................$49,900
Sweden...........................................................................$51,300
Denmark.........................................................................$49,600
Norway...........................................................................$70,000
Finland...........................................................................$44,000

Only oil rich Norway beats the US.

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