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Skynews is reporting that Assad and his family may have fled to Iran.

Post by Doc » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:35 pm

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Re: Skynews is reporting that Assad and his family may have fled to Iran.

Post by Alexis » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:29 am

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Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:35 pm
Sky News is citing Israeli sources saying #Syria dictator Bashar Assad evacuated his presidential palace with a Russian military convoy this morning in fear of a US-led military strike.
That much is pretty obvious :) His presidential palace is the last place Al-Assad needs to be, with US and allied missiles which may fly any day or hour. Proximity of Russian forces is desirable, given that Westerners want to avoid a war against Russia therefore can be expected to make efforts not to strike Russian forces.

As for "fleeing" to Iran, I don't believe it for a second. That would have a very bad effect on morale and he can't afford that.

Here is a video with English subtitles of a guy driving a car to areas recently retrieved by Syria from rebel forces and explaining it all :)


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Re: Skynews is reporting that Assad and his family may have fled to Iran.

Post by SteveFoerster » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:29 am

Alexis wrote:
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As for "fleeing" to Iran, I don't believe it for a second. That would have a very bad effect on morale and he can't afford that.
Agreed. They're really overreaching by pushing a story like that.
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Missiles fly...

Post by cassowary » Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:48 am

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/syria-air-str ... 19178.html

... But I suspect the damage was little because the Syrians had time to evacuate. It's just symbolic.

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Post by Sertorio » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:42 am

cassowary wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:48 am
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/syria-air-str ... 19178.html

... But I suspect the damage was little because the Syrians had time to evacuate. It's just symbolic.
Some data on the air strike, from RT. It may be propaganda, but I suspect it to be very accurate, until proof to the contrary:
DECISIVE FAILURE OF US FORCES
https://southfront.org/decisive-failure-of-us-forces/

Early on April 14, the US, France and the UK carried out a massive missile strike on Syria justifying their actions with the alleged involvement of the Assad government into the April 7 Douma “chemical attack”.

The Russian Defense Minsitry stated that 103 cruise and air-to-surface missiles were launched on different targets across Syria adding that 71 of them were intercepted by the Syrian Air Defense Forces (SADF).

“According to available information, a total of 103 cruise missiles were fired… The Syrian air defense systems basically comprising Soviet-made weapons successfully repelled the strikes by aircraft and naval ships. A total of 71 missiles were intercepted,” Head of the Russian General Staff’s Main Operations Department Colonel-General Sergei Rudskoi said.

Rudskoi said that the SADF had used its S-125, S-200, Buk, Kvadrat and Osa air defense systems to repel the strike.

The Syrian General Command said that the US, the UK and France had launched 110 missiles also adding that most of them were intercepted.

The numbers provided raise serious questions.

Some experts contacted by SouthFront said that even theoretically the SADF had not been capable to shoot down more than 15-20% of the launched missiles using its S-125, S-200, Buk, Kvadrat and Osa systems only. The SADF just does not have enoguh means and measures to intercept such a number of missiles simultaneously in one striking wave.

So what really happened?

The experts suggested that the Russian military had possibly used its state-of-the-art electronic warfare (EW) systems to counter the launched missiles during their final phase of flight path.

The most part of the flight path, the guidance for the Tomahawk cruise missile is provided by GPS. However, in the final phase, the missile starts using its internal guidance system. During this phase of the flight path the missile is vulnerable for EW counter-measures.

The missiles impacted by EW systems start to steer off. The missiles’ speed significantly reduces and they become an easy target for air defense systems or fall.

Another factor, which “highly likely” contributed to the effectiveness of the Syrian counter-measures, is that Russia had provided the Syrian military with operational data from its technical reconnaissance net, including satellites and other surveillance means. Likely, Iran had done a similar thing. Thus, missiles launched from the Red Sea were detected immediately and were being tracked during all their flight path.

Using tracking data, Russian-made air defense systems are capable of shooting down cruise missiles with a relatively high efficiency.

In any case, the 71 intercepted missiles of 103 launched are a decisive failure for the US and its allies. No doubts, the US military leadership did not expect this scenario.

If the data provided by the Russian Defense Ministry is confirmed, this will be the first time in the history when some side was able to repel a massive strike of the so-called modern high-precision weapons/missiles. So, in a case of a nuclear exchange between the US and Russia, the Russians will be able to intercept most of the US attacking means suffering a minor damage. Russia’s nuclear strike would be a crushing blow.

So far [13:15 CET], the US has provided no comments on reports about the 71 downed missiles and has not even provided official info about the targets and weapons involved in its strike on Syria. Considering that the administration of US President Donald Trump likes “PR moves”, such a stance may be described as an idication that something “went wrong”.
RUSSIAN MILITARY PROVIDES LIST OF TARGETS
https://southfront.org/russian-military ... s-perfect/

The Russian Defense Ministry says that the Syrian Air Defense Forces shot down 71 of 103 missiles launched by the US, the UK and France last night.

According to the Russian Defense Minisry, the US and its allies fired cruise missiles, including seaborne Tomahawks and GBU-38 guided bombs from B-1B planes while F-15 and F-16 fighter jets launched air-to-surface missiles. The UK Air Force’s Tornado aircraft fired eight Scalp EG air-launched cruise missiles.

The US-led strike was aimed at the following targets:

Four missiles were launched at the area of the Damascus International Airport. All these missiles were intercepted.
12 missiles were launched at the Al-Dumayr Military Airport. All these missiles were intercepted.
18 missiles were launched at the Baly Military Airport. All these missiles were intercepted.
12 missiles were launched at the Shayarat Military Airport. All these missiles were intercepted.
9 missiles were launched at the Mezzeh Military Airport. Five of them were intercepted.
16 missiles were launched at the Homs Military Airport. 13 of them were intercepted.
30 missiles were launched at targets in the areas of Barzah and Jaramani. Seven missiles were intercepted.
According to the Russian Defense Ministry, the facilities in the areas of Barzah and Jaramani were partly destroyed. The military added that these facilities had been for a long time abandoned and had not been invovled in the production of chemical weapons in contrary to the claims of the US-led coalition.

Syria strike 1.JPG
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Meanwhile, US President Donald Trump continued his “smart missiles” story and described the last night strike as “perfectly executed”.
If this information is accurate, the strike was a total flop. Empty buildings were hit, "non-existent" chemicals were "destroyed", two thirds of the incoming missiles were destroyed, even without Russia using the modern S-300 and S-400, no Syrian military assets were hit, Syria preserves full capacity to fight and defeat rebels, Russia's resolve to assist Syria has been strengthened. Trump, May and Macron were made to look like the asses they are. I had been a bit worried about the consequences of such a strike, but I didn't need to be. These guys are completely incapable of winning any tactical or strategical advantage in any fight against Russia. Pathetic!...

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Re: Skynews is reporting that Assad and his family may have fled to Iran.

Post by Sertorio » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:38 am

"...As a resulf of the event, Russia will consider S-300 air defense systems deliveries to Syria and “other countries...”

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Re: Missiles fly...

Post by cassowary » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:44 am

Sertorio wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:42 am
cassowary wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:48 am
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/syria-air-str ... 19178.html

... But I suspect the damage was little because the Syrians had time to evacuate. It's just symbolic.
Some data on the air strike, from RT. It may be propaganda, but I suspect it to be very accurate, until proof to the contrary:
DECISIVE FAILURE OF US FORCES
https://southfront.org/decisive-failure-of-us-forces/

Early on April 14, the US, France and the UK carried out a massive missile strike on Syria justifying their actions with the alleged involvement of the Assad government into the April 7 Douma “chemical attack”.

The Russian Defense Minsitry stated that 103 cruise and air-to-surface missiles were launched on different targets across Syria adding that 71 of them were intercepted by the Syrian Air Defense Forces (SADF).

“According to available information, a total of 103 cruise missiles were fired… The Syrian air defense systems basically comprising Soviet-made weapons successfully repelled the strikes by aircraft and naval ships. A total of 71 missiles were intercepted,” Head of the Russian General Staff’s Main Operations Department Colonel-General Sergei Rudskoi said.

Rudskoi said that the SADF had used its S-125, S-200, Buk, Kvadrat and Osa air defense systems to repel the strike.

The Syrian General Command said that the US, the UK and France had launched 110 missiles also adding that most of them were intercepted.

The numbers provided raise serious questions.

Some experts contacted by SouthFront said that even theoretically the SADF had not been capable to shoot down more than 15-20% of the launched missiles using its S-125, S-200, Buk, Kvadrat and Osa systems only. The SADF just does not have enoguh means and measures to intercept such a number of missiles simultaneously in one striking wave.

So what really happened?

The experts suggested that the Russian military had possibly used its state-of-the-art electronic warfare (EW) systems to counter the launched missiles during their final phase of flight path.

The most part of the flight path, the guidance for the Tomahawk cruise missile is provided by GPS. However, in the final phase, the missile starts using its internal guidance system. During this phase of the flight path the missile is vulnerable for EW counter-measures.

The missiles impacted by EW systems start to steer off. The missiles’ speed significantly reduces and they become an easy target for air defense systems or fall.

Another factor, which “highly likely” contributed to the effectiveness of the Syrian counter-measures, is that Russia had provided the Syrian military with operational data from its technical reconnaissance net, including satellites and other surveillance means. Likely, Iran had done a similar thing. Thus, missiles launched from the Red Sea were detected immediately and were being tracked during all their flight path.

Using tracking data, Russian-made air defense systems are capable of shooting down cruise missiles with a relatively high efficiency.

In any case, the 71 intercepted missiles of 103 launched are a decisive failure for the US and its allies. No doubts, the US military leadership did not expect this scenario.

If the data provided by the Russian Defense Ministry is confirmed, this will be the first time in the history when some side was able to repel a massive strike of the so-called modern high-precision weapons/missiles. So, in a case of a nuclear exchange between the US and Russia, the Russians will be able to intercept most of the US attacking means suffering a minor damage. Russia’s nuclear strike would be a crushing blow.

So far [13:15 CET], the US has provided no comments on reports about the 71 downed missiles and has not even provided official info about the targets and weapons involved in its strike on Syria. Considering that the administration of US President Donald Trump likes “PR moves”, such a stance may be described as an idication that something “went wrong”.
RUSSIAN MILITARY PROVIDES LIST OF TARGETS
https://southfront.org/russian-military ... s-perfect/

The Russian Defense Ministry says that the Syrian Air Defense Forces shot down 71 of 103 missiles launched by the US, the UK and France last night.

According to the Russian Defense Minisry, the US and its allies fired cruise missiles, including seaborne Tomahawks and GBU-38 guided bombs from B-1B planes while F-15 and F-16 fighter jets launched air-to-surface missiles. The UK Air Force’s Tornado aircraft fired eight Scalp EG air-launched cruise missiles.

The US-led strike was aimed at the following targets:

Four missiles were launched at the area of the Damascus International Airport. All these missiles were intercepted.
12 missiles were launched at the Al-Dumayr Military Airport. All these missiles were intercepted.
18 missiles were launched at the Baly Military Airport. All these missiles were intercepted.
12 missiles were launched at the Shayarat Military Airport. All these missiles were intercepted.
9 missiles were launched at the Mezzeh Military Airport. Five of them were intercepted.
16 missiles were launched at the Homs Military Airport. 13 of them were intercepted.
30 missiles were launched at targets in the areas of Barzah and Jaramani. Seven missiles were intercepted.
According to the Russian Defense Ministry, the facilities in the areas of Barzah and Jaramani were partly destroyed. The military added that these facilities had been for a long time abandoned and had not been invovled in the production of chemical weapons in contrary to the claims of the US-led coalition.


Syria strike 1.JPG

Meanwhile, US President Donald Trump continued his “smart missiles” story and described the last night strike as “perfectly executed”.
If this information is accurate, the strike was a total flop. Empty buildings were hit, "non-existent" chemicals were "destroyed", two thirds of the incoming missiles were destroyed, even without Russia using the modern S-300 and S-400, no Syrian military assets were hit, Syria preserves full capacity to fight and defeat rebels, Russia's resolve to assist Syria has been strengthened. Trump, May and Macron were made to look like the asses they are. I had been a bit worried about the consequences of such a strike, but I didn't need to be. These guys are completely incapable of winning any tactical or strategical advantage in any fight against Russia. Pathetic!...


I don't believe RT

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